THomas was born in North Carolina to Joseph b 1753 Md. Rev. War soldier, and Comfort Ann Cash Carnes b 1783 N. C. who had migrated south from Maryland. Comfort was one of fourteen charter members of the New Hope Primitive Baptist Church, near Villa Rica, Georgia, in 1828. It is the oldest Baptist Church west of the Chattahoochee River in northwest Georgia. They had the following children:
1. Joseph Carnes b 1818
2. Richard
3. Frederick
4. Mary Ann
5. Loritha
6. Nancy
Joseph and Comfort, David, John and Mary M. Carnes, Lydia Carnes and Peter Carnes migrated to Carroll County, Georgia, prior to 1830.
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And here is more bio info from a Carnes descendant:
John Carnes was born in 1786 in North Carolina. He died in Dec 1857 in Polk County, Georgia.
He was married to Mary Smallwood about 1808. Mary Smallwood was born in 1790 in North Carolina. She died on 15 Apr 1866 in Comanche county, Texas. John Carnes and Mary Smallwood had the following children, all of whom went to Comanche CO TX in 1859 except Rachel (Carnes) who was married to Thomas Hulsey:
+3 i. Rachel Carnes.
4 ii. Brooks Carnes was born in 1810 in Franklin county, Georgia. Disappeared from further records.
+5 iii. James Richard Carnes.
+6 iv. Shipley Carnes. (my GGG Grandfather)
+7 v. Elizabeth Carnes.
+8 vi. Mary Carnes.
+9 vii. Clayton William Carnes.
+10 viii. Nancy Carnes.
CARNS Thomas 73 M . Farmer N.C.
CARNS Polly 68 F . SC
I am the GGGG Grandson of John P. Carnes and Mary Smallwood Carnes. There is no such person named "John Thomas" Carnes, They were two brothers - John born 1786 and Thomas 1787, both in NC. I have the will for each of them. Thomas will talk about his wife "Mary M. Carnes" and John's mentions his "beloved wife Mary Carnes". Based on a researcher DNA and genealogy records, she and I now believe that Thomas' wife was Mary Magdalene "Polly" SHIPLEY.
The originator of this mistake was Dr. Donald Carnes of GA, who did extensive Carnes genealogy before the internet. When I met Dr. Donald in 2004, he was getting a bit tired of so many Carnes bugging him about genealogy I think, but he and I had a long and pleasant talk in Villa Rica, GA one Sunday and exchanged some letters afterwards. When I showed him the John Carnes and Thomas info, he agreed with me they were actually brothers and not the same person. He is the person who told me it was John "P" because I could not find a middle name or initial for him anywhere. Dr. Donald told me most likely he missed a comma when he was going through the old records. Clearly, he had some of his older notes about them, but he did not give me a copy. Once Donald did his stuff, it was propagated all over by Paul Rose (his mother was a Carnes) and some of the GA Carnes - so the mistake is all over the place.
I have the will for both John (died 1857) and Thomas (not sure, his will was dated APR 1860) if you are interested.
Joseph Carnes was born in 1760 in Virginia. Soldier in Revolutionary War.
Married Comfort Ann Cash on 12 Nov 1783 in Granville Co., NC. Joseph Carnes
had the following children:
Zachariah Carnes (Carns) born NC 1785 Mecklenberg Co. NC (Ed Carnes note - GC census 1850)
John P. Carnes born NC 1786 Mecklenberg Co. NC
Thomas Carnes born NC 1787 Mecklenberg Co. NC
David Carnes no info, for name from Dr. Donald Carnes letter 1/9/2002
Lydia Carnes no info, for name from Dr. Donald Carnes letter 1/9/2002
Peter Carnes born NC 17895Mecklenberg Co. NC
Edmund Carnes no info, for name from Dr. Donald Carnes letter 1/9/2002
Unknown daughter no info, for name from Dr. Donald Carnes letter 1/9/2002
Greenberry Carnes born G abt 1800 (Ed Carnes research) or Maybe son of Peter (above)
John P. Carnes was born in 1786 in Mecklenberg Co. NC. He died in Dec 1857 in Polk County, GA. He is presumed to be buried in GA although there is a small cross marker next to his wife's grave that indicates it is ether his body was brought there or it is just a placeholder next to her.
THomas was born in North Carolina to Joseph b 1753 Md. Rev. War soldier, and Comfort Ann Cash Carnes b 1783 N. C. who had migrated south from Maryland. Comfort was one of fourteen charter members of the New Hope Primitive Baptist Church, near Villa Rica, Georgia, in 1828. It is the oldest Baptist Church west of the Chattahoochee River in northwest Georgia. They had the following children:
1. Joseph Carnes b 1818
2. Richard
3. Frederick
4. Mary Ann
5. Loritha
6. Nancy
Joseph and Comfort, David, John and Mary M. Carnes, Lydia Carnes and Peter Carnes migrated to Carroll County, Georgia, prior to 1830.
*****
And here is more bio info from a Carnes descendant:
John Carnes was born in 1786 in North Carolina. He died in Dec 1857 in Polk County, Georgia.
He was married to Mary Smallwood about 1808. Mary Smallwood was born in 1790 in North Carolina. She died on 15 Apr 1866 in Comanche county, Texas. John Carnes and Mary Smallwood had the following children, all of whom went to Comanche CO TX in 1859 except Rachel (Carnes) who was married to Thomas Hulsey:
+3 i. Rachel Carnes.
4 ii. Brooks Carnes was born in 1810 in Franklin county, Georgia. Disappeared from further records.
+5 iii. James Richard Carnes.
+6 iv. Shipley Carnes. (my GGG Grandfather)
+7 v. Elizabeth Carnes.
+8 vi. Mary Carnes.
+9 vii. Clayton William Carnes.
+10 viii. Nancy Carnes.
CARNS Thomas 73 M . Farmer N.C.
CARNS Polly 68 F . SC
I am the GGGG Grandson of John P. Carnes and Mary Smallwood Carnes. There is no such person named "John Thomas" Carnes, They were two brothers - John born 1786 and Thomas 1787, both in NC. I have the will for each of them. Thomas will talk about his wife "Mary M. Carnes" and John's mentions his "beloved wife Mary Carnes". Based on a researcher DNA and genealogy records, she and I now believe that Thomas' wife was Mary Magdalene "Polly" SHIPLEY.
The originator of this mistake was Dr. Donald Carnes of GA, who did extensive Carnes genealogy before the internet. When I met Dr. Donald in 2004, he was getting a bit tired of so many Carnes bugging him about genealogy I think, but he and I had a long and pleasant talk in Villa Rica, GA one Sunday and exchanged some letters afterwards. When I showed him the John Carnes and Thomas info, he agreed with me they were actually brothers and not the same person. He is the person who told me it was John "P" because I could not find a middle name or initial for him anywhere. Dr. Donald told me most likely he missed a comma when he was going through the old records. Clearly, he had some of his older notes about them, but he did not give me a copy. Once Donald did his stuff, it was propagated all over by Paul Rose (his mother was a Carnes) and some of the GA Carnes - so the mistake is all over the place.
I have the will for both John (died 1857) and Thomas (not sure, his will was dated APR 1860) if you are interested.
Joseph Carnes was born in 1760 in Virginia. Soldier in Revolutionary War.
Married Comfort Ann Cash on 12 Nov 1783 in Granville Co., NC. Joseph Carnes
had the following children:
Zachariah Carnes (Carns) born NC 1785 Mecklenberg Co. NC (Ed Carnes note - GC census 1850)
John P. Carnes born NC 1786 Mecklenberg Co. NC
Thomas Carnes born NC 1787 Mecklenberg Co. NC
David Carnes no info, for name from Dr. Donald Carnes letter 1/9/2002
Lydia Carnes no info, for name from Dr. Donald Carnes letter 1/9/2002
Peter Carnes born NC 17895Mecklenberg Co. NC
Edmund Carnes no info, for name from Dr. Donald Carnes letter 1/9/2002
Unknown daughter no info, for name from Dr. Donald Carnes letter 1/9/2002
Greenberry Carnes born G abt 1800 (Ed Carnes research) or Maybe son of Peter (above)
John P. Carnes was born in 1786 in Mecklenberg Co. NC. He died in Dec 1857 in Polk County, GA. He is presumed to be buried in GA although there is a small cross marker next to his wife's grave that indicates it is ether his body was brought there or it is just a placeholder next to her.
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