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John Shaw

Birth
County Antrim, Northern Ireland
Death
1 May 1810 (aged 59)
Gable, Clarendon County, South Carolina, USA
Burial
Clarendon County, South Carolina, USA GPS-Latitude: 33.86321, Longitude: -80.12743
Memorial ID
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John Shaw is our immigrant ancestor who arrived in the port of Charleston in Dec. 1772 (see details below) while S. C. was still a colony & had not yet joined the USA (South Carolina became the eighth state to ratify the U.S. Constitution on May 23, 1788 & become a state in the USA). There was never any family lore about him being a Rev. War veteran or his family assisting anybody during the war.. John Shaw's tombstone is (but NOT his remains) at Salem Black River Presbyterian Church ("Brick Church") is a cenotaph, HERE.
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6/8/2021: "My name is Casey Alan Shaw. I recently took the Y-DNA test at familytreedna.com and you turned out to be one of two 'exact matches' in my results." Here is Casey's grandfather, Charles Robert Shaw. So far, I have no idea where this branch fits in to my John Shaw immigrant ancestor family tree.

2/2/2020, Possible breakthrough: Via Family Tree DNA yDNA testing, I got the following info by email: "My name is Kelley, and the Y-DNA test is for my father, Ronald Shaw. I looked at your tree and compared it to mine. It appears that the John Shaw (1750-1810) in your tree is the brother of my direct ancestor William Shaw (1758-1842). I believe that their father is Patrick James Shaw (1720-1802). Patrick would be our most recent common ancestor. My aunt, Dorothy Shaw Davis, has done most of the genealogy work on our Shaw line. "

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John Shaw was a leader-type Christian follower of Jesus all of his life. Here is a South Carolina ETV overview video of how Sumter came about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPR0sSKCZTY&feature=youtu.be

I began "doing" genealogy (my Shaw line first) my senior year in college (1966, The Citadel) and began creating a personal website about 1992. On it is a "Coming to America" story page about his immigration to America (http://www.theeffectivetruth.info/bigstory.html). Early on, I greatly benefitted from some Shaw genealogy work that the Sumter professional & publishing genealogist, Miss Janie Revil , had done for Sumter's mayor, Miss Priscilla Shaw. I'm still addicted to nonprofessional genealogy work.

John Shaw is our Scotch-Irish, Protestant immigrant ancestor from the Belfast area of Northern Ireland. The Hopewell sailed from Belfast, a 250 ton ship carrying about 190 people. It was one of 5 ships predominantly transporting the congregation of the Covenanter Presbyterian Church of the Rev. William Martin. The Hopewell departed (after over a month's delay) on 19 Oct. 1772. John arrived on The Hopewell (along with 4 other ship-loads...nearly 475 families & 1000 people) through the port of Charleston, S. C. on 22 Dec. 1772. Rev. William Martin had brought the probable bulk of his Covenanter (Reformed) Presbyterian congregation and others leaving Belfast at that time; most were from the Ballymoney area of County Antrim. They left because the Earl of Donegal had raised land rents in 1768 to beyond what the land could produce. This put such a strain on folks that there began to be violent incidents against the rent collectors. Rev. Martin preached that the congregation should flee the temptation to do violence and go to the English colony of South Carolina (which gave 50-100 acre parcels of free land to immigrants at that time). The fact of a land grant of only 100 acres probably indicates that John was unmarried or widowed upon arrival. The actual owning of land by commoners was unheard of in Europe. This story is found in the book Scotch-Irish Migration to South Carolina, 1772... by Jean Stephenson, 1971, 137 pages. The above 100 acre grant document in the S. C. Archives has "Irish" written on it. This book does not list any by the surname of Pringle in the 5 shiploads.

John the immigrant transferred his original 100 acre land grant near Shiloh, S. C. (in Sumter District & now Sumter County) to his eldest son, David Shaw. He then accumulated his nearly 2000 acre plantation at about the junction of I-95 & S. C. hwy #527 (in Sumter District & now Clarendon County).

War: I have never found any indication at all that John participated in the Revolutionary War; conversely, there is no evidence that he was against the war. Maybe because he was from a persecuted Covenanter background (http://www.theeffectivetruth.info/covenanter.html), he abstained from military participation; or maybe he participated but there are no records of it.

John was the father of a total of seven children (two linked from this paragraph and five in the "children" list, below). (1) His first wife is uncertain but was thought by professional Sumter genealogist, Janie Revill, to have been a Frierson (others say she may have been Jean or Mary Frierson). "Miss Janie" Revill told me that the answer was likely in the records of the Williamsburg County courthouse at Kingstree, S. C. They had David (I suspect the mother died with childbirth). Then (2) he and Lillis had six: John (Jr.), William, Jane, Samuel (born 1800 & died infant 1801), Lillis, and Sarah Elvira ...whose husband is Isaac.

Mrs. "Netta" Tiller ...Mayesville area local historian...told me where this marker was, and my Daddy & I found it in about 1969. Mrs. Tiller subsequently had his cemetery marker moved to Salem Black River Presbyterian Church to stand beside the marker of his second wife, Lillis (identity of the first wife is uncertain & it is likely that she died in childbirth with son, David...may have been Agnes, Jean or Mary Frierson) at Salem Black River Presbyterian Church cemetery in 1970. However, his body still rests in the Capt. George Cooper cemetery (near northeast corner) which is located near the junction of I-95 & highway #527 in present-day Clarendon County. As there was some controversy about whether the body was also removed, I checked into the fact of the trouble and expense of getting living descendants to agree to the removal. In about 2009, I called area resident and local historian, Tommy Dabbs of the Salem Church area and got this hilarious but true response: "Now, Ervin, I don't want to offend anybody in saying this; but the Shaws are tight with their money. They would not have paid the legal expense (lawyers contacting and getting legal permission from so many descendants) of moving the body!" Moving only the marker was easy.

NOTE: I am unaware of any evidence of John Shaw having a middle name.

DNA TESTS: At the urging of "Tom" Clyde Shaw (descendant of Jeremiah Shaw, Sr. [1768-1845]), summer of 2018, I got Family Tree yDNA111 testing and conclusively proved that my John Shaw is NOT the John Shaw from whom Jeremiah Shaw, Sr. (1768-1845) descended. There are two Find a Grave memorials for my John Shaw...the one you are reading now [where his remains rest] & the other one in Brick Church cemetery [where only a grave marker is besides his 2nd wife's grave]. Jeremiah is said to have been in Chester, S. C. and then removed to Georgia. The Family Tree yDNA111 has additionally indicated that our John Shaw has a common Shaw ancestor with William Hance Shaw, Sr. FaG mem. # 194599347.

USA migration: Our immigrant ancestor came to S. C., and many offspring stayed in S. C. Migrations of some branches began to Florida & then over toward Alabama & Texas &, over the generations, scattered on westward. Our immigrant ancestor's eldest son to reach adulthood, John G. Shaw, went straight from Sumter County to New Orleans in about 1844 & married a young girl over in Mississippi in 1845 with many offspring in that area.
John Shaw is our immigrant ancestor who arrived in the port of Charleston in Dec. 1772 (see details below) while S. C. was still a colony & had not yet joined the USA (South Carolina became the eighth state to ratify the U.S. Constitution on May 23, 1788 & become a state in the USA). There was never any family lore about him being a Rev. War veteran or his family assisting anybody during the war.. John Shaw's tombstone is (but NOT his remains) at Salem Black River Presbyterian Church ("Brick Church") is a cenotaph, HERE.
****************************
6/8/2021: "My name is Casey Alan Shaw. I recently took the Y-DNA test at familytreedna.com and you turned out to be one of two 'exact matches' in my results." Here is Casey's grandfather, Charles Robert Shaw. So far, I have no idea where this branch fits in to my John Shaw immigrant ancestor family tree.

2/2/2020, Possible breakthrough: Via Family Tree DNA yDNA testing, I got the following info by email: "My name is Kelley, and the Y-DNA test is for my father, Ronald Shaw. I looked at your tree and compared it to mine. It appears that the John Shaw (1750-1810) in your tree is the brother of my direct ancestor William Shaw (1758-1842). I believe that their father is Patrick James Shaw (1720-1802). Patrick would be our most recent common ancestor. My aunt, Dorothy Shaw Davis, has done most of the genealogy work on our Shaw line. "

*********
John Shaw was a leader-type Christian follower of Jesus all of his life. Here is a South Carolina ETV overview video of how Sumter came about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPR0sSKCZTY&feature=youtu.be

I began "doing" genealogy (my Shaw line first) my senior year in college (1966, The Citadel) and began creating a personal website about 1992. On it is a "Coming to America" story page about his immigration to America (http://www.theeffectivetruth.info/bigstory.html). Early on, I greatly benefitted from some Shaw genealogy work that the Sumter professional & publishing genealogist, Miss Janie Revil , had done for Sumter's mayor, Miss Priscilla Shaw. I'm still addicted to nonprofessional genealogy work.

John Shaw is our Scotch-Irish, Protestant immigrant ancestor from the Belfast area of Northern Ireland. The Hopewell sailed from Belfast, a 250 ton ship carrying about 190 people. It was one of 5 ships predominantly transporting the congregation of the Covenanter Presbyterian Church of the Rev. William Martin. The Hopewell departed (after over a month's delay) on 19 Oct. 1772. John arrived on The Hopewell (along with 4 other ship-loads...nearly 475 families & 1000 people) through the port of Charleston, S. C. on 22 Dec. 1772. Rev. William Martin had brought the probable bulk of his Covenanter (Reformed) Presbyterian congregation and others leaving Belfast at that time; most were from the Ballymoney area of County Antrim. They left because the Earl of Donegal had raised land rents in 1768 to beyond what the land could produce. This put such a strain on folks that there began to be violent incidents against the rent collectors. Rev. Martin preached that the congregation should flee the temptation to do violence and go to the English colony of South Carolina (which gave 50-100 acre parcels of free land to immigrants at that time). The fact of a land grant of only 100 acres probably indicates that John was unmarried or widowed upon arrival. The actual owning of land by commoners was unheard of in Europe. This story is found in the book Scotch-Irish Migration to South Carolina, 1772... by Jean Stephenson, 1971, 137 pages. The above 100 acre grant document in the S. C. Archives has "Irish" written on it. This book does not list any by the surname of Pringle in the 5 shiploads.

John the immigrant transferred his original 100 acre land grant near Shiloh, S. C. (in Sumter District & now Sumter County) to his eldest son, David Shaw. He then accumulated his nearly 2000 acre plantation at about the junction of I-95 & S. C. hwy #527 (in Sumter District & now Clarendon County).

War: I have never found any indication at all that John participated in the Revolutionary War; conversely, there is no evidence that he was against the war. Maybe because he was from a persecuted Covenanter background (http://www.theeffectivetruth.info/covenanter.html), he abstained from military participation; or maybe he participated but there are no records of it.

John was the father of a total of seven children (two linked from this paragraph and five in the "children" list, below). (1) His first wife is uncertain but was thought by professional Sumter genealogist, Janie Revill, to have been a Frierson (others say she may have been Jean or Mary Frierson). "Miss Janie" Revill told me that the answer was likely in the records of the Williamsburg County courthouse at Kingstree, S. C. They had David (I suspect the mother died with childbirth). Then (2) he and Lillis had six: John (Jr.), William, Jane, Samuel (born 1800 & died infant 1801), Lillis, and Sarah Elvira ...whose husband is Isaac.

Mrs. "Netta" Tiller ...Mayesville area local historian...told me where this marker was, and my Daddy & I found it in about 1969. Mrs. Tiller subsequently had his cemetery marker moved to Salem Black River Presbyterian Church to stand beside the marker of his second wife, Lillis (identity of the first wife is uncertain & it is likely that she died in childbirth with son, David...may have been Agnes, Jean or Mary Frierson) at Salem Black River Presbyterian Church cemetery in 1970. However, his body still rests in the Capt. George Cooper cemetery (near northeast corner) which is located near the junction of I-95 & highway #527 in present-day Clarendon County. As there was some controversy about whether the body was also removed, I checked into the fact of the trouble and expense of getting living descendants to agree to the removal. In about 2009, I called area resident and local historian, Tommy Dabbs of the Salem Church area and got this hilarious but true response: "Now, Ervin, I don't want to offend anybody in saying this; but the Shaws are tight with their money. They would not have paid the legal expense (lawyers contacting and getting legal permission from so many descendants) of moving the body!" Moving only the marker was easy.

NOTE: I am unaware of any evidence of John Shaw having a middle name.

DNA TESTS: At the urging of "Tom" Clyde Shaw (descendant of Jeremiah Shaw, Sr. [1768-1845]), summer of 2018, I got Family Tree yDNA111 testing and conclusively proved that my John Shaw is NOT the John Shaw from whom Jeremiah Shaw, Sr. (1768-1845) descended. There are two Find a Grave memorials for my John Shaw...the one you are reading now [where his remains rest] & the other one in Brick Church cemetery [where only a grave marker is besides his 2nd wife's grave]. Jeremiah is said to have been in Chester, S. C. and then removed to Georgia. The Family Tree yDNA111 has additionally indicated that our John Shaw has a common Shaw ancestor with William Hance Shaw, Sr. FaG mem. # 194599347.

USA migration: Our immigrant ancestor came to S. C., and many offspring stayed in S. C. Migrations of some branches began to Florida & then over toward Alabama & Texas &, over the generations, scattered on westward. Our immigrant ancestor's eldest son to reach adulthood, John G. Shaw, went straight from Sumter County to New Orleans in about 1844 & married a young girl over in Mississippi in 1845 with many offspring in that area.

Inscription

"Sacred to the memory of John Shaw who departed this life the 1st of May 1810, aged 59 years 11 months and 10 days leaving a wife and six children to lament his loss. Being an Elder of Salem Church he lived and died in the christian hope. For I know that my Redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth"

Gravesite Details

The actual, specific burial site within this moated cemetery is unknown. To a casual observer, this cemetery does not look like anything other than a patch of woods land.



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  • Created by: Ervin Shaw
  • Added: Jun 10, 2012
  • Find a Grave Memorial ID:
  • Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/91690102/john-shaw: accessed ), memorial page for John Shaw (21 May 1750–1 May 1810), Find a Grave Memorial ID 91690102, citing Captain George Cooper Cemetery, Clarendon County, South Carolina, USA; Maintained by Ervin Shaw (contributor 47632367).