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Rachel “Mary” Craig Helms

Birth
Gloucester County, New Jersey, USA
Death
1800 (aged 79–80)
Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, USA
Burial
Union County, North Carolina, USA Add to Map
Memorial ID
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*** Many thanks to Anonymous (#48049843) for additional info.

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Memorial: Hannah Craig (58204619)
Reported Problem: Not accurate - Their data conflicts with my data.
Hi there! Thanks for contacting me with a suggested edit for Hannah Allen Craig, .... The info below discussing the children of David Allen was not written by me, but by Alton Rogers, a wikitree member and accomplished and careful genealogist. Please feel free to contact me again if you have any questions, or better yet, if there is documentation for your suggested edit! Thank you very much! Deirdre Find A Grave Memorial# 58204619, currently includes links to parents, which are incorrect. She is not the daughter of David Allen listed there and he was never married to a Deliverance Allen. She was born too early to have been a daughter of his first wife, Sarah - and is not listed as one of David and Sarah's children in any sources. From Wikitree member Alton Rogers: I am in the process of comparing Wikitree data against that of my copy of the Mayflower Families 'silver book' (Vol. 17) for William White descendants, and have already reviewed this family, but cant remember whether I sent notes to profile managers of Wikitree profiles that don't square with silver book data, of which this family has some. Since Sarah Hayward was a descendant of William White, she is the person that the silver book, Vol. 17 pages 32-35, keys on. Mayflower lists Sarah as having 2 husbands: 1. John Grosvenor m. 1709 2. David Allen m. 1711 And besides Sarah, Mayflower only lists one other wife for David: Hannah ----- (who was named in a 1748 deed). And the 4 children listed as those of David and Sarah - David b. 1713 Adoniram b. 1715 John b. 1717 Hannah b. ca. 1726 And I know that you have the other two wives of David, 'Deliverance' and 'Mary' listed with Ancestry sources, but knowing Ancestry as I do (see my profile for the link to my 50,000 entry Ancestry file) I would bet this is bogus information, and the 2 Mayflower-listed wives of David are all that he had. And yes, sometimes Mayflower makes errors or misses data, but this is a very rare thing.

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*** Many thanks to Anonymous (#48049843) for additional info.

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Memorial: Hannah Craig (58204619)
Reported Problem: Not accurate - Their data conflicts with my data.
Hi there! Thanks for contacting me with a suggested edit for Hannah Allen Craig, .... The info below discussing the children of David Allen was not written by me, but by Alton Rogers, a wikitree member and accomplished and careful genealogist. Please feel free to contact me again if you have any questions, or better yet, if there is documentation for your suggested edit! Thank you very much! Deirdre Find A Grave Memorial# 58204619, currently includes links to parents, which are incorrect. She is not the daughter of David Allen listed there and he was never married to a Deliverance Allen. She was born too early to have been a daughter of his first wife, Sarah - and is not listed as one of David and Sarah's children in any sources. From Wikitree member Alton Rogers: I am in the process of comparing Wikitree data against that of my copy of the Mayflower Families 'silver book' (Vol. 17) for William White descendants, and have already reviewed this family, but cant remember whether I sent notes to profile managers of Wikitree profiles that don't square with silver book data, of which this family has some. Since Sarah Hayward was a descendant of William White, she is the person that the silver book, Vol. 17 pages 32-35, keys on. Mayflower lists Sarah as having 2 husbands: 1. John Grosvenor m. 1709 2. David Allen m. 1711 And besides Sarah, Mayflower only lists one other wife for David: Hannah ----- (who was named in a 1748 deed). And the 4 children listed as those of David and Sarah - David b. 1713 Adoniram b. 1715 John b. 1717 Hannah b. ca. 1726 And I know that you have the other two wives of David, 'Deliverance' and 'Mary' listed with Ancestry sources, but knowing Ancestry as I do (see my profile for the link to my 50,000 entry Ancestry file) I would bet this is bogus information, and the 2 Mayflower-listed wives of David are all that he had. And yes, sometimes Mayflower makes errors or misses data, but this is a very rare thing.

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  • Created by: Lanie
  • Added: Oct 27, 2011
  • Find a Grave Memorial ID:
  • Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/79410318/rachel-helms: accessed ), memorial page for Rachel “Mary” Craig Helms (1720–1800), Find a Grave Memorial ID 79410318, citing Helms Family Cemetery, Union County, North Carolina, USA; Maintained by Lanie (contributor 47381115).