John William Helms was the second son of Charles Ingram and Elizabeth "Eliza" J. Helms. I have left his birth day and year on the above FindAGrave search field for birth day and year to be the same as the date on his tombstone.
There was apparently a mistake or error on his tombstone regarding the day and year for his birth date, which does not match Bible or census records. His older brother James Allen Helms was born on 9 April 1841 and John William Helms was born 22 June 1842 and his sister Mary Ann Elizabeth Helms was born 9 April 1843, thus giving an actual date range for his year of birth. However, the 1900 Coffee Co., AL census says he was born in June 1844 and his wife was born in Nov. 1844. Inaccuracies in multiple places.
The 1850 Census of Coffee County, AL shows Charles & Eliza with 7 children, occupation "Farmer." [Note: the ages of the children vary due to the date that the census was enumerated]
18. Charles I HELMS 27 NC
Eliza J 30 Ga
James A 9 Ala {born about 1841
John W 7 {born about 1843
Mary A E 6
Aaron W 5
Henry J 3
Sarah Ann J 1
David G 6 mo,
**
Source: Heritage Quest
HELMS, CHARLES J (1860 U.S. Census) {actually "Charles I."
ALABAMA , COFFEE, 6-PCT
Age: 38, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: NC
Series: M653 Roll: 6 Page: 846
The 1860 Coffee County AL Census shows Charles & Eliza with 12 children, occupation as "Millwright" Enumerated 23 July 1860 Post Office Elba
652 Charles J. Helms 38 NC {actually "Charles I."
Eliza 40 Ga
James Allen 19 Ala
John W 18
Mary A E 17
Aaron W 16
Henry J 14
Sarah A L 13
Daniel Y 11
Frances A E 10
Martha A L 9
Charles J 7
Celina 4
George D 7 mo
**
John William Helms and his older brother James Allen Helms enlisted together very early in the war into Co. K 33rd Infantry Regiment CSA as Privates, along with several of their cousins.
Alabama Archives of History, Montgomery, AL
Alabama Civil War Service Database
Last Name: Helms
Date of Birth:
Birth Information:
Date of Death:
Death Information:
Discharge Date:
Discharge Information:
Branch: Infantry
Regimental Unit: 33rd Alabama Regiment
Company Unit: K
Co. Unit Name:
Pension Rec:
Authority: Muster in roll dated at Greenville, Alabama, March 13, 1862.
First Name: John MI: W.
Marital Status:
Occupation:
Enlistment Date: 1862/03/13
Enlistment Information: Alabama, Greenville
Engagements:
Engage. con't:
Remarks: Rank: Private
Remarks con't:
Other Info:
***
This shows his discharge on May 10, 1864:
Alabama Archives of History, Montgomery, AL
Alabama Civil War Service Database
Last Name: Helms
Date of Birth:
Birth Information:
Date of Death:
Death Information:
Discharge Date: 1864/05/10
Discharge Information:
Branch: Infantry
Regimental Unit: 33rd Alabama Regiment
Company Unit: K
Co. Unit Name:
Pension Rec: Yes
Authority: Alabama Pension #28188 filed in Coffee County
First Name: J. MI: W.
Marital Status:
Occupation:
Enlistment Date: 1862/03/15
Enlistment Information: Alabama, Butler County, Greenville
Engagements:
Engage. con't:
Remarks: Pensioner: J. W. Helms. Witnesses: L. W. Crumpler and J. L. Watson. Rank: Private
Remarks con't:
Other Info:
***
After he returned from the war, he married Barbara "Barbery" Adkison, who had grown up a few households from his parents & family. [Note: If anyone has their actual marriage date, please let me know.]
***
He and his wife and young family are found on the 1870 Census:
Source: Heritage Quest
HELMS, JOHN W (1870 U.S. Census)
ALABAMA , COFFEE, ELBA P O
Age: 26, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: AL
Series: M593 Roll: 9 Page: 436
Enumerated 16 Aug 1870 [Household numbers are misaligned]
Helms, John W 26 m w Farming cannot r/w
Barbarie 24 w f Keeping House
Virginia B. 04 w f At home
Neuton J. 03 w m At home
Danniel (sic) 01 w m At home
**
Together John William and Barbarie Ann Helms had 9 known children.
According to his Obituary in the Dothan Eagle - February 5, 1935 -Tuesday -Page 1, [provided by member 47221921], at the time of his death the previous Sunday night at home in New Brockton, he was 95 years old.
At the time of his death, he had four surviving sons, T.C. Helms of New Brockton, D. J. Helms of Florala, A. J. Helms of Ponce De Leon, Fla., and J. H. Helms of Andalusia. He had three surviving daughters, Mrs. B. F. Thomas and Mrs. W. A McCriller of New Brockton, and Mrs. Winnie Purvis of Enterprise; two brothers, Perry and Bob Helms of Milton, Fla.; two sisters, Mrs. Queen Peters of Pensacola, Fla., and Mrs. Sallie Bishop, Mulligan (sic), Fla. and a great number of grandchildren and great grandchildren.
Note: Per his age as given in the obituary, he was born in 1840, which would make him born before his older brother James Allen Helms.
There was apparently a mistake or error on his tombstone regarding the day and year for his birth date, which does not match Bible or census records. His older brother James Allen Helms was born on 9 April 1841 and John William Helms was born 22 June 1842 and his sister Mary Ann Elizabeth Helms was born 9 April 1843, thus giving an actual date range for his year of birth. However, the 1900 Coffee Co., AL census says he was born in June 1844 and his wife was born in Nov. 1844. Inaccuracies in multiple places.
The 1850 Census of Coffee County, AL shows Charles & Eliza with 7 children, occupation "Farmer." [Note: the ages of the children vary due to the date that the census was enumerated]
18. Charles I HELMS 27 NC
Eliza J 30 Ga
James A 9 Ala {born about 1841
John W 7 {born about 1843
Mary A E 6
Aaron W 5
Henry J 3
Sarah Ann J 1
David G 6 mo,
**
Source: Heritage Quest
HELMS, CHARLES J (1860 U.S. Census) {actually "Charles I."
ALABAMA , COFFEE, 6-PCT
Age: 38, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: NC
Series: M653 Roll: 6 Page: 846
The 1860 Coffee County AL Census shows Charles & Eliza with 12 children, occupation as "Millwright" Enumerated 23 July 1860 Post Office Elba
652 Charles J. Helms 38 NC {actually "Charles I."
Eliza 40 Ga
James Allen 19 Ala
John W 18
Mary A E 17
Aaron W 16
Henry J 14
Sarah A L 13
Daniel Y 11
Frances A E 10
Martha A L 9
Charles J 7
Celina 4
George D 7 mo
**
John William Helms and his older brother James Allen Helms enlisted together very early in the war into Co. K 33rd Infantry Regiment CSA as Privates, along with several of their cousins.
Alabama Archives of History, Montgomery, AL
Alabama Civil War Service Database
Last Name: Helms
Date of Birth:
Birth Information:
Date of Death:
Death Information:
Discharge Date:
Discharge Information:
Branch: Infantry
Regimental Unit: 33rd Alabama Regiment
Company Unit: K
Co. Unit Name:
Pension Rec:
Authority: Muster in roll dated at Greenville, Alabama, March 13, 1862.
First Name: John MI: W.
Marital Status:
Occupation:
Enlistment Date: 1862/03/13
Enlistment Information: Alabama, Greenville
Engagements:
Engage. con't:
Remarks: Rank: Private
Remarks con't:
Other Info:
***
This shows his discharge on May 10, 1864:
Alabama Archives of History, Montgomery, AL
Alabama Civil War Service Database
Last Name: Helms
Date of Birth:
Birth Information:
Date of Death:
Death Information:
Discharge Date: 1864/05/10
Discharge Information:
Branch: Infantry
Regimental Unit: 33rd Alabama Regiment
Company Unit: K
Co. Unit Name:
Pension Rec: Yes
Authority: Alabama Pension #28188 filed in Coffee County
First Name: J. MI: W.
Marital Status:
Occupation:
Enlistment Date: 1862/03/15
Enlistment Information: Alabama, Butler County, Greenville
Engagements:
Engage. con't:
Remarks: Pensioner: J. W. Helms. Witnesses: L. W. Crumpler and J. L. Watson. Rank: Private
Remarks con't:
Other Info:
***
After he returned from the war, he married Barbara "Barbery" Adkison, who had grown up a few households from his parents & family. [Note: If anyone has their actual marriage date, please let me know.]
***
He and his wife and young family are found on the 1870 Census:
Source: Heritage Quest
HELMS, JOHN W (1870 U.S. Census)
ALABAMA , COFFEE, ELBA P O
Age: 26, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: AL
Series: M593 Roll: 9 Page: 436
Enumerated 16 Aug 1870 [Household numbers are misaligned]
Helms, John W 26 m w Farming cannot r/w
Barbarie 24 w f Keeping House
Virginia B. 04 w f At home
Neuton J. 03 w m At home
Danniel (sic) 01 w m At home
**
Together John William and Barbarie Ann Helms had 9 known children.
According to his Obituary in the Dothan Eagle - February 5, 1935 -Tuesday -Page 1, [provided by member 47221921], at the time of his death the previous Sunday night at home in New Brockton, he was 95 years old.
At the time of his death, he had four surviving sons, T.C. Helms of New Brockton, D. J. Helms of Florala, A. J. Helms of Ponce De Leon, Fla., and J. H. Helms of Andalusia. He had three surviving daughters, Mrs. B. F. Thomas and Mrs. W. A McCriller of New Brockton, and Mrs. Winnie Purvis of Enterprise; two brothers, Perry and Bob Helms of Milton, Fla.; two sisters, Mrs. Queen Peters of Pensacola, Fla., and Mrs. Sallie Bishop, Mulligan (sic), Fla. and a great number of grandchildren and great grandchildren.
Note: Per his age as given in the obituary, he was born in 1840, which would make him born before his older brother James Allen Helms.
John William Helms was the second son of Charles Ingram and Elizabeth "Eliza" J. Helms. I have left his birth day and year on the above FindAGrave search field for birth day and year to be the same as the date on his tombstone.
There was apparently a mistake or error on his tombstone regarding the day and year for his birth date, which does not match Bible or census records. His older brother James Allen Helms was born on 9 April 1841 and John William Helms was born 22 June 1842 and his sister Mary Ann Elizabeth Helms was born 9 April 1843, thus giving an actual date range for his year of birth. However, the 1900 Coffee Co., AL census says he was born in June 1844 and his wife was born in Nov. 1844. Inaccuracies in multiple places.
The 1850 Census of Coffee County, AL shows Charles & Eliza with 7 children, occupation "Farmer." [Note: the ages of the children vary due to the date that the census was enumerated]
18. Charles I HELMS 27 NC
Eliza J 30 Ga
James A 9 Ala {born about 1841
John W 7 {born about 1843
Mary A E 6
Aaron W 5
Henry J 3
Sarah Ann J 1
David G 6 mo,
**
Source: Heritage Quest
HELMS, CHARLES J (1860 U.S. Census) {actually "Charles I."
ALABAMA , COFFEE, 6-PCT
Age: 38, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: NC
Series: M653 Roll: 6 Page: 846
The 1860 Coffee County AL Census shows Charles & Eliza with 12 children, occupation as "Millwright" Enumerated 23 July 1860 Post Office Elba
652 Charles J. Helms 38 NC {actually "Charles I."
Eliza 40 Ga
James Allen 19 Ala
John W 18
Mary A E 17
Aaron W 16
Henry J 14
Sarah A L 13
Daniel Y 11
Frances A E 10
Martha A L 9
Charles J 7
Celina 4
George D 7 mo
**
John William Helms and his older brother James Allen Helms enlisted together very early in the war into Co. K 33rd Infantry Regiment CSA as Privates, along with several of their cousins.
Alabama Archives of History, Montgomery, AL
Alabama Civil War Service Database
Last Name: Helms
Date of Birth:
Birth Information:
Date of Death:
Death Information:
Discharge Date:
Discharge Information:
Branch: Infantry
Regimental Unit: 33rd Alabama Regiment
Company Unit: K
Co. Unit Name:
Pension Rec:
Authority: Muster in roll dated at Greenville, Alabama, March 13, 1862.
First Name: John MI: W.
Marital Status:
Occupation:
Enlistment Date: 1862/03/13
Enlistment Information: Alabama, Greenville
Engagements:
Engage. con't:
Remarks: Rank: Private
Remarks con't:
Other Info:
***
This shows his discharge on May 10, 1864:
Alabama Archives of History, Montgomery, AL
Alabama Civil War Service Database
Last Name: Helms
Date of Birth:
Birth Information:
Date of Death:
Death Information:
Discharge Date: 1864/05/10
Discharge Information:
Branch: Infantry
Regimental Unit: 33rd Alabama Regiment
Company Unit: K
Co. Unit Name:
Pension Rec: Yes
Authority: Alabama Pension #28188 filed in Coffee County
First Name: J. MI: W.
Marital Status:
Occupation:
Enlistment Date: 1862/03/15
Enlistment Information: Alabama, Butler County, Greenville
Engagements:
Engage. con't:
Remarks: Pensioner: J. W. Helms. Witnesses: L. W. Crumpler and J. L. Watson. Rank: Private
Remarks con't:
Other Info:
***
After he returned from the war, he married Barbara "Barbery" Adkison, who had grown up a few households from his parents & family. [Note: If anyone has their actual marriage date, please let me know.]
***
He and his wife and young family are found on the 1870 Census:
Source: Heritage Quest
HELMS, JOHN W (1870 U.S. Census)
ALABAMA , COFFEE, ELBA P O
Age: 26, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: AL
Series: M593 Roll: 9 Page: 436
Enumerated 16 Aug 1870 [Household numbers are misaligned]
Helms, John W 26 m w Farming cannot r/w
Barbarie 24 w f Keeping House
Virginia B. 04 w f At home
Neuton J. 03 w m At home
Danniel (sic) 01 w m At home
**
Together John William and Barbarie Ann Helms had 9 known children.
According to his Obituary in the Dothan Eagle - February 5, 1935 -Tuesday -Page 1, [provided by member 47221921], at the time of his death the previous Sunday night at home in New Brockton, he was 95 years old.
At the time of his death, he had four surviving sons, T.C. Helms of New Brockton, D. J. Helms of Florala, A. J. Helms of Ponce De Leon, Fla., and J. H. Helms of Andalusia. He had three surviving daughters, Mrs. B. F. Thomas and Mrs. W. A McCriller of New Brockton, and Mrs. Winnie Purvis of Enterprise; two brothers, Perry and Bob Helms of Milton, Fla.; two sisters, Mrs. Queen Peters of Pensacola, Fla., and Mrs. Sallie Bishop, Mulligan (sic), Fla. and a great number of grandchildren and great grandchildren.
Note: Per his age as given in the obituary, he was born in 1840, which would make him born before his older brother James Allen Helms.
There was apparently a mistake or error on his tombstone regarding the day and year for his birth date, which does not match Bible or census records. His older brother James Allen Helms was born on 9 April 1841 and John William Helms was born 22 June 1842 and his sister Mary Ann Elizabeth Helms was born 9 April 1843, thus giving an actual date range for his year of birth. However, the 1900 Coffee Co., AL census says he was born in June 1844 and his wife was born in Nov. 1844. Inaccuracies in multiple places.
The 1850 Census of Coffee County, AL shows Charles & Eliza with 7 children, occupation "Farmer." [Note: the ages of the children vary due to the date that the census was enumerated]
18. Charles I HELMS 27 NC
Eliza J 30 Ga
James A 9 Ala {born about 1841
John W 7 {born about 1843
Mary A E 6
Aaron W 5
Henry J 3
Sarah Ann J 1
David G 6 mo,
**
Source: Heritage Quest
HELMS, CHARLES J (1860 U.S. Census) {actually "Charles I."
ALABAMA , COFFEE, 6-PCT
Age: 38, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: NC
Series: M653 Roll: 6 Page: 846
The 1860 Coffee County AL Census shows Charles & Eliza with 12 children, occupation as "Millwright" Enumerated 23 July 1860 Post Office Elba
652 Charles J. Helms 38 NC {actually "Charles I."
Eliza 40 Ga
James Allen 19 Ala
John W 18
Mary A E 17
Aaron W 16
Henry J 14
Sarah A L 13
Daniel Y 11
Frances A E 10
Martha A L 9
Charles J 7
Celina 4
George D 7 mo
**
John William Helms and his older brother James Allen Helms enlisted together very early in the war into Co. K 33rd Infantry Regiment CSA as Privates, along with several of their cousins.
Alabama Archives of History, Montgomery, AL
Alabama Civil War Service Database
Last Name: Helms
Date of Birth:
Birth Information:
Date of Death:
Death Information:
Discharge Date:
Discharge Information:
Branch: Infantry
Regimental Unit: 33rd Alabama Regiment
Company Unit: K
Co. Unit Name:
Pension Rec:
Authority: Muster in roll dated at Greenville, Alabama, March 13, 1862.
First Name: John MI: W.
Marital Status:
Occupation:
Enlistment Date: 1862/03/13
Enlistment Information: Alabama, Greenville
Engagements:
Engage. con't:
Remarks: Rank: Private
Remarks con't:
Other Info:
***
This shows his discharge on May 10, 1864:
Alabama Archives of History, Montgomery, AL
Alabama Civil War Service Database
Last Name: Helms
Date of Birth:
Birth Information:
Date of Death:
Death Information:
Discharge Date: 1864/05/10
Discharge Information:
Branch: Infantry
Regimental Unit: 33rd Alabama Regiment
Company Unit: K
Co. Unit Name:
Pension Rec: Yes
Authority: Alabama Pension #28188 filed in Coffee County
First Name: J. MI: W.
Marital Status:
Occupation:
Enlistment Date: 1862/03/15
Enlistment Information: Alabama, Butler County, Greenville
Engagements:
Engage. con't:
Remarks: Pensioner: J. W. Helms. Witnesses: L. W. Crumpler and J. L. Watson. Rank: Private
Remarks con't:
Other Info:
***
After he returned from the war, he married Barbara "Barbery" Adkison, who had grown up a few households from his parents & family. [Note: If anyone has their actual marriage date, please let me know.]
***
He and his wife and young family are found on the 1870 Census:
Source: Heritage Quest
HELMS, JOHN W (1870 U.S. Census)
ALABAMA , COFFEE, ELBA P O
Age: 26, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: AL
Series: M593 Roll: 9 Page: 436
Enumerated 16 Aug 1870 [Household numbers are misaligned]
Helms, John W 26 m w Farming cannot r/w
Barbarie 24 w f Keeping House
Virginia B. 04 w f At home
Neuton J. 03 w m At home
Danniel (sic) 01 w m At home
**
Together John William and Barbarie Ann Helms had 9 known children.
According to his Obituary in the Dothan Eagle - February 5, 1935 -Tuesday -Page 1, [provided by member 47221921], at the time of his death the previous Sunday night at home in New Brockton, he was 95 years old.
At the time of his death, he had four surviving sons, T.C. Helms of New Brockton, D. J. Helms of Florala, A. J. Helms of Ponce De Leon, Fla., and J. H. Helms of Andalusia. He had three surviving daughters, Mrs. B. F. Thomas and Mrs. W. A McCriller of New Brockton, and Mrs. Winnie Purvis of Enterprise; two brothers, Perry and Bob Helms of Milton, Fla.; two sisters, Mrs. Queen Peters of Pensacola, Fla., and Mrs. Sallie Bishop, Mulligan (sic), Fla. and a great number of grandchildren and great grandchildren.
Note: Per his age as given in the obituary, he was born in 1840, which would make him born before his older brother James Allen Helms.
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