The website Tudor Place erroneously shows Eleanor (Radcliffe) was a daughter of Edward Radclyffe, 6th Earl of Sussex. Eleanor had a daughter named Elizabeth who born in 1571 and if Eleanor was at least 16 years of age or older at the time of Elizabeth's birth, it suggests Eleanor was likely born no later than about 1555. In fact, many sources show she was born about eight years earlier in 1547. Consequently, Eleanor was born before Edward Radclyffe who was born about 1556 which means she was born too early to be his daughter since she was older than him. Therefore, sources have extended Eleanor one generation too far away from her parents Humphrey Radcliffe and Isabel (Harvey) because their son Edward Radclyffe was born too late and was too young to be the father of Eleanor. Consequently, Eleanor was erroneously placed as Edward's daughter. However, she was his sister which is why both Isabel's son Edward Radclyffe, 6th Earl of Sussex and Eleanor’s son John Whitbread were mentioned in a deed of conveyance in 1611 which showed they shared a common interest in the same property identified in the conveyance that was inherited from Isabel's father Edmund Hervey.
Since both sons were specifically listed with the names of their mothers on the conveyance and since it also did not show the interest was through their fathers, it is an indication their interest in the property was through their mothers who were related through their Hervey ancestry since Isabel was a daughter of Edmund Hervey who was a previous owner of the property included in the aforementioned conveyance. Since Eleanor (Radcliffe) Whitbread was a sister to Edward Radclyffe, 6th Earl of Sussex, they shared a common interest in the property in Elstow, Bedfordshire which was listed in a deed of conveyance in 1611 to John Radwell and was inherited from their grandfather Edmund Hervey who was granted the property in 1541 from King Henry, VIII after the Dissolution of the Monasteries in 1538 which previously belonged to Elstow Abbey. Consequently, Eleanor's son John Whitbread also had an interest in the same property which is why John Whitbread was also listed in the conveyance since he shared an interest in the same property as his uncle Edward Radclyffe.
According to a plaque placed directly below a memorial in Elstow Abbey for Eleanor's parents Humphrey Radcliffe and Isabel (Harvey) Radcliffe, Eleanor's mother Isabel was the only child and sole heir of Edmund Hervey. After Isabel's death, her children Edward Radclyffe and Eleanor (Radcliffe) Whitbread both shared an interest in the property mentioned in the conveyance in 1611 that Isabel had inherited from her father Edmund Hervey. Therefore, as grandchildren of Edmund Hervey, Eleanor and her brother Edward were both in effect heirs of Edmund Hervey. In the conveyance Isabel was listed as the mother of Edward Radclyffe, 6th Earl of Sussex and Eleanor was listed as the mother of John Whitbread which is why Eleanor's mother Isabel (Harvey) Radcliffe had a son Edward Radclyffe who shared an interest in the same property with Eleanor's son John Whitbread. Since Eleanor's mother Isabel (Harvey) was the only child and sole heir of Edmund Hervey, it suggests Eleanor's heir-ship to her grandfather Edmund Hervey could only have been through Edmund Hervey’s only child Isabel (Harvey) Hill-Radcliffe which supports the conclusion Eleanor was also a daughter of Isabel and was also a Radcliffe. The only way Eleanor could have received an interest in the same property at Elstow was through Isabel who had inherited the property as the sole heir of her father Edmund Hervey. This proves Isabel was also the mother of Eleanor because there is no other way Eleanor could have inherited her interest in the property at Elstow unless it was through her mother Isabel, especially since Isabel had no siblings.
The website Tudor Place erroneously shows Eleanor (Radcliffe) was a daughter of Edward Radclyffe, 6th Earl of Sussex. Eleanor had a daughter named Elizabeth who born in 1571 and if Eleanor was at least 16 years of age or older at the time of Elizabeth's birth, it suggests Eleanor was likely born no later than about 1555. In fact, many sources show she was born about eight years earlier in 1547. Consequently, Eleanor was born before Edward Radclyffe who was born about 1556 which means she was born too early to be his daughter since she was older than him. Therefore, sources have extended Eleanor one generation too far away from her parents Humphrey Radcliffe and Isabel (Harvey) because their son Edward Radclyffe was born too late and was too young to be the father of Eleanor. Consequently, Eleanor was erroneously placed as Edward's daughter. However, she was his sister which is why both Isabel's son Edward Radclyffe, 6th Earl of Sussex and Eleanor’s son John Whitbread were mentioned in a deed of conveyance in 1611 which showed they shared a common interest in the same property identified in the conveyance that was inherited from Isabel's father Edmund Hervey.
Since both sons were specifically listed with the names of their mothers on the conveyance and since it also did not show the interest was through their fathers, it is an indication their interest in the property was through their mothers who were related through their Hervey ancestry since Isabel was a daughter of Edmund Hervey who was a previous owner of the property included in the aforementioned conveyance. Since Eleanor (Radcliffe) Whitbread was a sister to Edward Radclyffe, 6th Earl of Sussex, they shared a common interest in the property in Elstow, Bedfordshire which was listed in a deed of conveyance in 1611 to John Radwell and was inherited from their grandfather Edmund Hervey who was granted the property in 1541 from King Henry, VIII after the Dissolution of the Monasteries in 1538 which previously belonged to Elstow Abbey. Consequently, Eleanor's son John Whitbread also had an interest in the same property which is why John Whitbread was also listed in the conveyance since he shared an interest in the same property as his uncle Edward Radclyffe.
According to a plaque placed directly below a memorial in Elstow Abbey for Eleanor's parents Humphrey Radcliffe and Isabel (Harvey) Radcliffe, Eleanor's mother Isabel was the only child and sole heir of Edmund Hervey. After Isabel's death, her children Edward Radclyffe and Eleanor (Radcliffe) Whitbread both shared an interest in the property mentioned in the conveyance in 1611 that Isabel had inherited from her father Edmund Hervey. Therefore, as grandchildren of Edmund Hervey, Eleanor and her brother Edward were both in effect heirs of Edmund Hervey. In the conveyance Isabel was listed as the mother of Edward Radclyffe, 6th Earl of Sussex and Eleanor was listed as the mother of John Whitbread which is why Eleanor's mother Isabel (Harvey) Radcliffe had a son Edward Radclyffe who shared an interest in the same property with Eleanor's son John Whitbread. Since Eleanor's mother Isabel (Harvey) was the only child and sole heir of Edmund Hervey, it suggests Eleanor's heir-ship to her grandfather Edmund Hervey could only have been through Edmund Hervey’s only child Isabel (Harvey) Hill-Radcliffe which supports the conclusion Eleanor was also a daughter of Isabel and was also a Radcliffe. The only way Eleanor could have received an interest in the same property at Elstow was through Isabel who had inherited the property as the sole heir of her father Edmund Hervey. This proves Isabel was also the mother of Eleanor because there is no other way Eleanor could have inherited her interest in the property at Elstow unless it was through her mother Isabel, especially since Isabel had no siblings.
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