Ambroise Haydel

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Ambroise Haydel

Birth
Neunkirchen, Landkreis Neunkirchen, Saarland, Germany
Death
31 May 1774 (aged 71)
St. John the Baptist Parish, Louisiana, USA
Burial
Edgard, St. John the Baptist Parish, Louisiana, USA GPS-Latitude: 30.0449556, Longitude: -90.5585778
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Ambroise Haydel [Heidel] was the progenitor of German Coast of Louisiana. On the November 14, 1720, list of families abord the ship, Les Deux Freres, at Lorient in France, were found Ambroise Haydel, Mathieu, his brother, Barbe, his sister and Catherine, his other sister. On this list, the place of Origin of the family is given as Saxe, or Saxony.

Ambrose HEIDEL [a twin] was born and baptized on November 15, 1702, Neumkirchen Wurtzberg, Germany. The godparents were Ambros Horn, blacksmith, and [no mention of Godmother], he was a twin of Kaspar Haydel, sons of Johann Adam Haydel [Heidel] [Haydel]born 1670 Saxe or Saxony, died Sept. 12, 1720, Lorient, France, their mother was Eva Anna Schnarberg born Neukirchen Bavaria.

Ambrose Haydel's younger brother Johann Mathieu Haydel born Sept. 20, 1706, Neunkirchen Wurtberg, Germany is mentioned for the last time in 1727. It is possible that he was murdered by the Natchez Indians 1729 with the family of his sister. His sister was Barbe Haydel married first husband Johann George Betz, he was baptized Oct. 12, 1692, Weibstadt, Baden Germany, diocese of Spire, married New Orleans, he was a Butcher and prevot.

1727: On the first of July 1727, Johann George Betz, his wife Barbe Haydel and two children are reported as inmates of the hospital in New Orleans, and on the 24th of August Betz died. His widow, Barbe who was the sister of Ambros Heidel [Haydel] then married Caspar Diehif of Alsace. The whole family, Diehi, his wife Barbe Haydel, two children, "a brother" [ whose brother?] probably Mathieu Haydel were murdered in 1729 by the Natchez Indians in the great massacre in Natchez.

Because of the loss of the records of the parish church of St. Charles of the post of the Germans, Ambroise Heidel's exact date of death is unknown. The last reference in civil documents that indicated that he was still alive was on March 20, 1767, when Ambroise Haydel was one of the persons who conducted the inventory of the property of Pierre Pommie.

On May 31, 1774, Marguerite CHAFF the widow of Ambroise HAYDEL and her children sold a farm of 11 arpens wide by the customary dept [40] arpents] to Louis Girard PELLERIN, of New Orleans. The farm was bounded by the properties of Nicolas HAYDEL and Jean Jacque HAYDEL.

Census Nov. 1724 The German Village of Hoffen La. 10, Lieues above New Orleans, La. Ambros Heidel of Neumkirchen electorate of Mayence, Catholic, 22 years old. Baker. His wife, his brother 18 years old, his brother in-law age 13 crippled. One and a half years on the place " Good worker, very much at ease. One pig.

Census 1731 Ambros Heidel, wife two children, one engage, three negros, two cows [ Source " The Settlement of The German Coast of La" by J. Hanno Deile.

The final census which included Ambroise Heidel was taken on Jun. 25, 1766:

Ambroise Edel, his wife, 1 son of over 15 years, 9 slave men, 5 slave women, 3 slave boys, 3 slave girls, 1 horse, 2 oxen, 5 cows, 5 young bulls and calves, 18 sheep 10 pigs, 2 muskets and 12 arpents of occupied land.

Ambroise Haydel was a Baker, also founded Plantation now known as the Whitney Plantation.

Immigration Nov. 14, 1720, Ship Le Deux Freres from Lorient France to Louisiana.

Ambroise Haydel married Anna Margarite Schaff [SCHOFF] Abt. May 31, 1720, she was born abt. 1706 Schoenbourg Bas-Rhin, France, daughter of Hans Jacob Shaff [Schoff] Chauffe and Anna Maria Foltzloger. Anna Margarite died Dec. 10, 1778, Edgard St. John Baptist Parish, La. Eight known children born to this marriage.

[ Source- "German Coast Families" by Albert J. Robichaux Jr.] Also- St. Charles Original Acts and Archdiocese of New Orleans Sacramental Records.

Ambroise Haydel and Margarite Schaff [Schoff] were my g-g-g-g-g-grandparents

Contributor: Roberta Jane "Bobbie" Hymel Wade
Ambroise Haydel [Heidel] was the progenitor of German Coast of Louisiana. On the November 14, 1720, list of families abord the ship, Les Deux Freres, at Lorient in France, were found Ambroise Haydel, Mathieu, his brother, Barbe, his sister and Catherine, his other sister. On this list, the place of Origin of the family is given as Saxe, or Saxony.

Ambrose HEIDEL [a twin] was born and baptized on November 15, 1702, Neumkirchen Wurtzberg, Germany. The godparents were Ambros Horn, blacksmith, and [no mention of Godmother], he was a twin of Kaspar Haydel, sons of Johann Adam Haydel [Heidel] [Haydel]born 1670 Saxe or Saxony, died Sept. 12, 1720, Lorient, France, their mother was Eva Anna Schnarberg born Neukirchen Bavaria.

Ambrose Haydel's younger brother Johann Mathieu Haydel born Sept. 20, 1706, Neunkirchen Wurtberg, Germany is mentioned for the last time in 1727. It is possible that he was murdered by the Natchez Indians 1729 with the family of his sister. His sister was Barbe Haydel married first husband Johann George Betz, he was baptized Oct. 12, 1692, Weibstadt, Baden Germany, diocese of Spire, married New Orleans, he was a Butcher and prevot.

1727: On the first of July 1727, Johann George Betz, his wife Barbe Haydel and two children are reported as inmates of the hospital in New Orleans, and on the 24th of August Betz died. His widow, Barbe who was the sister of Ambros Heidel [Haydel] then married Caspar Diehif of Alsace. The whole family, Diehi, his wife Barbe Haydel, two children, "a brother" [ whose brother?] probably Mathieu Haydel were murdered in 1729 by the Natchez Indians in the great massacre in Natchez.

Because of the loss of the records of the parish church of St. Charles of the post of the Germans, Ambroise Heidel's exact date of death is unknown. The last reference in civil documents that indicated that he was still alive was on March 20, 1767, when Ambroise Haydel was one of the persons who conducted the inventory of the property of Pierre Pommie.

On May 31, 1774, Marguerite CHAFF the widow of Ambroise HAYDEL and her children sold a farm of 11 arpens wide by the customary dept [40] arpents] to Louis Girard PELLERIN, of New Orleans. The farm was bounded by the properties of Nicolas HAYDEL and Jean Jacque HAYDEL.

Census Nov. 1724 The German Village of Hoffen La. 10, Lieues above New Orleans, La. Ambros Heidel of Neumkirchen electorate of Mayence, Catholic, 22 years old. Baker. His wife, his brother 18 years old, his brother in-law age 13 crippled. One and a half years on the place " Good worker, very much at ease. One pig.

Census 1731 Ambros Heidel, wife two children, one engage, three negros, two cows [ Source " The Settlement of The German Coast of La" by J. Hanno Deile.

The final census which included Ambroise Heidel was taken on Jun. 25, 1766:

Ambroise Edel, his wife, 1 son of over 15 years, 9 slave men, 5 slave women, 3 slave boys, 3 slave girls, 1 horse, 2 oxen, 5 cows, 5 young bulls and calves, 18 sheep 10 pigs, 2 muskets and 12 arpents of occupied land.

Ambroise Haydel was a Baker, also founded Plantation now known as the Whitney Plantation.

Immigration Nov. 14, 1720, Ship Le Deux Freres from Lorient France to Louisiana.

Ambroise Haydel married Anna Margarite Schaff [SCHOFF] Abt. May 31, 1720, she was born abt. 1706 Schoenbourg Bas-Rhin, France, daughter of Hans Jacob Shaff [Schoff] Chauffe and Anna Maria Foltzloger. Anna Margarite died Dec. 10, 1778, Edgard St. John Baptist Parish, La. Eight known children born to this marriage.

[ Source- "German Coast Families" by Albert J. Robichaux Jr.] Also- St. Charles Original Acts and Archdiocese of New Orleans Sacramental Records.

Ambroise Haydel and Margarite Schaff [Schoff] were my g-g-g-g-g-grandparents

Contributor: Roberta Jane "Bobbie" Hymel Wade