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martha wyckoff (#46601620)
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Joseph Voss
William & Catherine Snider, Loudoun County
Hi. I was curious as to how you came to place William & Catherine Snider at the Old Stone Church Cemetery in Leesburg?

Joe
jmvoss@cox.net

Added by Joseph Voss on Jan 26, 2017 4:21 PM

sherry cain
RE: Samuel
It is Joshua and Mary Wyckoff, go into my photos and find Mary wyckoff and hit on it, a large family picture with her in front of a lot of children, off springs.Joshua came from England and had quite a large family,my great,great grand father.

Added by sherry cain on Jan 17, 2017 12:53 PM

Gene Baumwoll CSW
RE: Benjamin Akerly 1705-1849
Thank you for all your years on Findagrave. There is an edit button on each memorial...so if there is a typo say a 0 instead of a 6 you could send it easily. But thank you for taking the time to message me.

Added by Gene Baumwoll CSW on Oct 23, 2016 12:52 PM

Ray Vick
Snider Caylor Orr Lindsey Hesser
These are all inter-relalated families with Fayette Co, OH in common. Caylor and Lindsey are family names in my ancestry. I will email you about this.

Ray 47252398

Added by Ray Vick on Oct 20, 2016 9:00 AM

sherry cain
Samuel and Mary Wyackoff
You should have gotten the pages on graves that showed Mary and Sam. I am with bright house. Will ery again or I can send what I have.

Added by sherry cain on May 22, 2016 10:13 AM

sherry cain
RE: Samuel
I have forwarded you write ups about Samuel and Mary Wycoff, did you get them?

Added by sherry cain on May 18, 2016 11:51 AM

sherry cain
Samuel
I have a picture of Samuel and Mary Wycoff. do you have one?

Added by sherry cain on May 15, 2016 9:34 AM

sherry cain
Samuel
I have a picture of Samuel and Mary Wycoff. do you have one?

Added by sherry cain on May 15, 2016 9:19 AM

sherry cain
Joshua Speakman
me I can not show you the pictures of Joshua and Samuel Vinton C. Speakman.

Added by sherry cain on May 15, 2016 9:01 AM

Carol Ballard
RE: Kathleen Bridges
Your welcome

Added by Carol Ballard on Mar 10, 2016 6:38 PM

Carol Ballard
RE: John O. Bridges (John D)
Your welcome

Added by Carol Ballard on Mar 10, 2016 6:36 PM

SixDogTeam
RE: Indiana Civil War Soldiers
Yes

Added by SixDogTeam on Dec 11, 2015 9:26 AM

Danny Mingledorff
RE: James McConnel and others
I'm happy to help. My wife and I appreciate cemeteries and "enjoy" them. I travel a lot on business and going to cemeteries near our plants and looking for stones not on Find-A-Grave gives me a break in the evenings. We got started doing this by trying to document some of the old family cemeteries where my wife's ancestors are buried.

Added by Danny Mingledorff on Dec 06, 2015 7:16 AM

Danny Mingledorff
RE: James McConnel and others
I went through the cemetery in Ossian trying to find stones that were not on Find-A-Grave. There were a couple of stones that bushes have grown up around and made it difficult to get to. It even looked like there was a large stone in the bush that had never been carved. There were also some stones i could not read.

Added by Danny Mingledorff on Dec 05, 2015 6:50 PM

Danny Mingledorff
RE: Pvt James McConnel
Hi, Martha.

If I remember correctly, there are some bushes in the middle of the cemetery, and the pieces of the stone are on the "street" side of those bushes.

I'm going to be spending a lot of time in Ossian over the next 6 months, but not sure if it will start before January. If there is more information I can help you with please let me know.

...danny

Added by Danny Mingledorff on Dec 03, 2015 5:31 PM

Nel Corton
Regarding Elizabeth Shry/Schry
I found the land transfer from Peter Oatyar that mentioned Elizabeth and Catherine Schry. It was in Robert Stoy's write up on Peter Oatyar where he is going over various land deals Peter was mentioned in. It says that in 1807 Peter Oatyar sold 71 acres in Loudoun to Colley McAtee(both of Loudoun) which was witnessed by Sam M Edwards? and that this transaction was subject to a lease for life for Elizabeth and Catharine Schry. Recorded 14 Dec 1807.This fits nicely in with the rest of the timeline.

Nel

Added by Nel Corton on Nov 05, 2015 3:59 PM

fleance
RE: Sarah Smith Snider Dawson
Thanks, Martha. Looks like Sarah's spouse, Mr. Dawson = Charles. Found VA death certif. for daughter Mary Frances which matches dates on F-A-G (#43989587). Gives father: Chas. Dawson, b. Loudoun; mother: Sarah Smith, b. Loudoun.
--John

Added by fleance on Oct 28, 2015 7:51 AM

fleance
RE: William Snider # 92441799
Catherine Ann Smith Snider Slack
F-A-G #43988868

"Daughter Catherine Smith is named in Peter's estate. Peter is named in his father William's estate along with his mother, Catherine. William Snider's wife, Peter's mother, Catherine Slack's grandmother may have been Catherine Smith, but we don't know for sure. Catherine Snider Slack was too young to have already married a Smith when her father, Peter died.

Thanks to Martha Wyckoff for the above information."

This is a little had to follow, but there is no question that "Smith" was a middle name for Catherine, right? "Smith" is her mother's surname.

She is so identified on her VA Death Certificate as Catharine Smith Slack; father: Peter Snyder, b. Loudoun; mother: Sarah Smith, b. Loudoun. The informant was her son, Lloyd Slack, presumably a reliable source.

I can email you the ancestry.com link for that certif. if you don't have it.

Sarah Smith m(1). Peter Snider; m(2). Mr. Dawson. Who was Mr. Dawson?

--John

Added by fleance on Oct 27, 2015 2:49 PM

fleance
RE: William Snider # 92441799
Thanks for the lease. It certainly changed hands often before William Snider became the tenant. From the Loudoun Deed Index, the trail of that lease went:

Thomas Ludwell Lee to Adam Barb (K:273)
Adam Barb to Frederick Swarts (M:289)
Frederick Swarts to Tetrick Cooch (N:188)
Tetrick Cooch to David Cline (N:349)
David Cline to William Snider (O:50)

That lease would have been a commodity William's heirs would inherit; assuming it was still in force (i.e. one of the three Adam, Ann, or Joseph Barb was still alive), you might expect it would be sold for cash value if everyone in the family was headed out of Loudoun. Since there was no outgoing lease transfer recorded after William's death, we might draw the conclusion that the widow and the youngest, Peter stayed on and continued to cultivated the Snider place. Maybe daughter Elizabeth Shry, too?

Does this fit in with your view of the Sniders who remained in Loudoun?

Loudoun Index shows 3I:46, Sarah Snyder & c purchased from George Lee. That would be about 1825. Just guessing, but looks like Peter's widow Sarah and heirs finally bought the farm from a descendant of T.L. Lee? Maybe compare the M&Bs from 3I:46 and the original lease K:273 and see if it's the same parcel. Maybe you've already looked at 3I:46.

===

RE Kisby: Still looks possible that the Elizabeth Shry who m. Richard Kisby in Loudoun 22 Sep 1810 could be Elizabeth Snider, widow of Mathias.

From his various Rev. War records we learn that he resided in Montgomery Co., MD "nearly his whole life except for a short time in Virginia."
Enlisted 5 Aug 1776; served in the MD line, more than one tour of duty. Wounded and on the pension rolls beg. 1807. MD pension records show he was paid biannually Mar 1820--Mar 1825 with a note, "died 5 June 1825, paid."

24 Jan 1823 MD State Senate "passes a resolution in favor of Richard Kisby of Montgomery County."

15 Feb 1821, MD State Assembly, Elizabeth was mentioned in the record:
An Act for the relief of sundry Poor Persons in the several Counties therein mentioned.

In Montgomery county...Elizabeth Kisby, payable to herself, or order, thirty dollars...

{MD Achives Online http://aomol.msa.maryland.gov/000001/000625/html/am625--132.html}

Richard Kisby in Loudoun for the 1810 census(ancestry.com P 55, next to last line), part of "his short time in Virginia." He's 45+ with a female 45+ and female <10. Speculate that that's Richard's wife, Elizabeth with a young step-daughter, b. 1800-1809 (one of the unattached female Shry's?).

45+ for Richard in 1810 would be consistent with him being a Rev. War Vet. 45+ for wife Elizabeth, does that make her too old to be a daughter of William Snider?

--John

Added by fleance on Oct 27, 2015 11:46 AM

fleance
RE: William Snider # 92441799
>...This Inventory and Appraisement of the estate of William Snider deceased was returned by the Commisioners approved by the Court and ordered to be recorded.<

Martha, P.S.,
I read "returned by the Commisioners" in the A/I as evidence that William Snider died intestate, and his will was never admitted. The inventory would read something like "with Executor William Snider [Jr.]." The court appointed commissioners to administer the estate, which would not happen if there was an exor.

This would not have benefited William's widow. Except for the legacy of the two horses, she was to get the whole estate, then divided among the children at her death. If William died intestate, she got 1/3, the other 2/3 to the kids, now, not later, when mom passed.
--John

Added by fleance on Oct 26, 2015 3:47 PM

fleance
RE: William Snider
Thanks, again, Martha, for all the additional help.

>We speculated that Elizabeth Snider may have married Matthias Shry...<

Yes, one of two of the most likely scenarios:

1. Elizabeth Snider m. bef. 12 Jun 1799 Matthias Shry. We know from Loudoun Chancery 1819-026:5, that Matthias and Paul Shry were brothers, and that Matthias died before 10 Apr 1809 in Williamsburg at the Eastern State Hospital ("…he would have chosen some person blessed and possessed of their senses, neither of which Mathias Shry had in the year 1803, but was totally insane, so much so that he was conveyed to the Mad House in Williamsburg, where he died." --Answer of deft. Paul Shry on 10 Apr 1809). Then, it might be Elizabeth (Snider) Shry, Mathias' widow, who was the Elizabeth Shry who married Richard Kisby, 22 Mar 1810 in Loudoun. Various transcriptions of the marriage show "Hisby" or "Thisby." I think this guy was probably the Rev. War Vet and invalid Richard Kisby. Pension app. has exam by DRs in Montgomery Co., MD. Possibly Elizabeth Snider ended up there, across the Potomac. Still on the trail of this one...

BTW, Peter Oatyer AKA Etcher was one of the appraisers of the A/I of William Snider. Mathias Shry was one of the witnesses to a Loudoun deed in 1803, a B&S where Peter Etcher was the grantee (2E:52). (A year he was said to be insane, but, hey...) Neighbors? Family?

2. Elizabeth Snider m. Paul Shry bef. 12 Jun 1799. Elizabeth died bef. 11 Aug 1811, when Paul m(2). in Loudoun, Mary Howser. Late in life for Paul to take a first wife? Don't know anything about Mary. How old was she?

-----

I've got Jacob Shry, say born 1740ish, as the head of the Loudoun line. He first appeared on the Tithables, Cameron Parish, 1776. Speculating children, Jacob, Paul, Mathias, Catherine (m. Hardy), Elizabeth? (m. Kisby). We know for sure Paul & Mathias were brothers. Paul & Jacob went west together, and were early settlers of Elk, Vinton Co., OH, so likely they were brothers, too. Jacob b. abt. 1774, NJ; Loudoun-->Vinton, could not possibly be the Jacob on the 1776 Tithables, so there has to be an older one.


>1740-Paul Shry born. Listed in Rev. War Records as from Loudoun, but was he born there?<

I think born later. Paul Shry returned to Loudoun at some point. On 08 Jun 1824 he appeared in Loudoun court in support of John Russell's Rev. War Pension application (W5755).

Loudoun County State of Virginia This day Paul Shry personally appeared before me a justice of the peace for said County and made Oath that he entered into the service of the United States in the year 1781 and at the time he joined Colo Whites Reg’t. of horse in Petersburg Virginia he then and there met with a certain John Russel who was at that time in the service of his country and belonged to the said Colo Whites Reg’t of horse and he was informed that the said Russell had assisted in the Capture of General Cornwallis then proceeded for Petersburg with General Wayne to South Carolina and continued in the service with him about Eighteen months and were both discharged at the same without receiving any pay and he further states that the bearer of this certificate is the same John Russell who served in the army with him and rec’d his discharge
Given under my hand this 8 day of June 1824.

Loudoun County Virginia June 14th 1824
We whose names are hereunto subscribed have been personally acquainted with Paul Shry for a number of years past and have always considered him a man of truth and whose veracity has never been impeached.
Rich’d Tavenner
Abbon Dillon
Wm Hough
Wm Dodd
Wm Paxson
Jas Beavers
Hannon Betzer
John Betzer
Wm Betzer
R. Braden, Justice of the Peace

Both John Russell & Paul Shry appear on a Size Roll, Albemarle Old Courthouse, U.S. Revolutionary War Rolls.

Paul Shrye was sized on 22 May 1781. Reported:
age 17; height 5’ 4¼”; white hair; blue eyes; fair complexion; planter; born in Pennsylvania; residing in Loudoun County where he enlisted as a substitute on 19 Mar 1781 for three years.

So 17 in Mar 1781, b. abt. 1764. This fits with his first appearance on the Loudoun Tithables 1780, as he has just turned 16.

Estate of Paul Sry in Loudoun, A/I, U:78, a silver watch, pair of shoes, fur hat and clothes @ $20. Via court order Dec 1830; returned 26 Nov 1831.

>1812: Catherine Shry m. Amos Hardy Nov. 6, 1812<
Amos Hardy enlisted 15 Jan 1813 in Alexandria with Ens. Sanders for 5 years. He was 24, b. Loudoun, a blacksmith. Another trail to follow...

I'll let you know if anything new develops.
--John

Added by fleance on Oct 26, 2015 1:31 PM

fleance
RE: William Snider # 92441799
Thank you for the will!

Was there any indication at the end that the will was ever recorded by the court? Maybe it was never proved: perhaps Exor., son William never came forward to enter the will, or the witnesses didn't; for whatever reason the will was never entered? That might explain why it's not in the indexes or abstracts from the period. Maybe there's a file of unproved wills?

Thanks again. Am investigating the Shry connection.
--John

Added by fleance on Oct 26, 2015 9:11 AM

fleance
William Snider # 92441799
Hi,
Thank you for you contributions to Find A Grave. Could you please help me out with William Snider:

"In 1799 William's estate mentioned wife, Catherine, sons, William, Henry, Jacob, and Peter and daughter, Elizabeth Shry."

I can't find this estate record in the Loudoun Will Books. I can only find the A/I for William which doesn't mention any wife/children (F:148). Do you have the book/page where that record is located?

Many thanks,
John

Added by fleance on Oct 25, 2015 8:52 AM

Bob Saunders
RE: Memorials in Mount Zion Church
All photos have been added. (finally)

Added by Bob Saunders on Aug 31, 2015 7:35 AM

christine hillstead
Thompsons
May I ask who are the people in this photo. I am George Thompsons 3x ggdaughter and I am looking for any photos of our Thompson line. Any help is truly appreciated. Christine

Added by christine hillstead on Aug 28, 2015 8:20 AM

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