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Daniel Mack Moss

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Daniel Mack Moss

Birth
Death
4 Aug 1933 (aged 80)
Mill Spring, Polk County, North Carolina, USA
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Dates on grave marker appear to be incorrect. No death certificate recorded in Polk County for Daniel Mack Moss.

Update November 2013: From Janice Black - Information to me from J L Rhinehart [email protected]:

Daniel Mack Moss.... went by Mack Moss
Birth: June 1853
Glassy Mountain TWP, Greenville Co., SC
Death: 1926 (this cannot be correct as he is on the 1930 census)
White Oak TWP?, Henderson Co., SC (cannot fine death cert yet)

Daniel Mack Moss was the son of Minerva Harrison – Moss, his biological father is unknown at this time. Mack's mother Minerva Harrison married John Moss on 12 January 1845 in Greenville Co & evidently were living there when he enlisted in the Army to go to the Mexican War on 6 July 1847 in Spartanburg County.

John Moss died in Mexico City on Christmas Day the same year, as did another Moss named James Moss in the same company a few days earlier in Mexico City, perhaps they were brothers. Minerva & John Moss evidently had 2 sons, one of which she must've been pregnant with when he enlisted: John Pinkney Moss was born about 1847 & William Moss about 1848.

After Pvt. John Moss died, Minerva filed for official Guardianship of John Moss's eldest son John Pinkney Moss in Spartanburg on 12 April 1850, stating that it was to sell the "Land Warrant" property, which was land that soldiers were promised for their service starting after the Revolutionary War. Minerva also applied for a military pension & was granted one starting exactly 5 yrs after John Moss's death. The record says she was paid $3.50 for December 1852 & then $4 per month after that until the year 1857 when they wrote she remarried on 19 July 1857, evidently to J. Baze Emory, son of John "Jack" Emery & Mary __.

During the time Minerva was a war widow, she had 2 more sons whose father is unknown at this time. In June 1853, Minerva had a son she named Daniel Mack Moss, and a couple of years later she had George Flemming [Flem] Moss. On the 1860 & 1870 census's, both are living with Minerva & J Baez Emory & their children. Mack was 6 yrs old in 1860 & 16 yrs old in 1870.

In 1880, both Mack Moss & Flem Moss had moved to the Ivy area of Madison & Buncombe Counties, NC, Mack had married Harriet Mariah Dill, daughter of Esias Dill & Harriet Page Dill of Glassy Mountain TWP, Greenville Co., SC area probably in the 1870's as they already had 4 children:

• Laura W Moss - Brown (John Wesley) 1872 – 1922
• Hester Ann Moss - Durham - Lindsey 1874 – 1968
• Harriet Mariah "Hattie" Moss - Hardin 1876 – 1968
• George W. Moss 1879 –

Esias [Ezias] Dill, Harriet's father, had died about the same time Harriet was born, she was their last child.

The Spartanburg County library now has jail records for the year 1900 on microfilm (they're new). I looked up Mack (he was on the 1900 census in the jail chain gang). Mack was arrested in May 1900 in Spartanburg County for "attempting to kill" and for carrying a concealed weapon. He pled guilty 5 days later & the sentence was $150 or 3 months on the chain gang or 3 months in the state penitentiary, evidently he served out the sentence on the county chain gang because that's where he was on the 1900 census in June.

Mack's wife & children were renting a house in the Sulphur Springs area of Rutherford Co., NC, about 15-20 miles north of Spartanburg, while he was on the chain gang. Mariah was listed as having the following people in her 27 June 1900 household:

Marier Moss 35 born May 1865 married 21 yrs had 6 children/6 children alive, George 20 born April 1880 Day Laborer, Carl 15 born Feb 1885 Day Lab, Nelson 12 born Jan 1888 Day Lab, Daniel 10 born Apr 1890 Day Lab, Ransom 7 born May 1893, Henry 4 born Feb 1896 – family was not living on farm –

The section on reading & writing is not filled out, also her marriage date is probably wrong, and the number of children is wrong because by this time she had had at least 9 or 10 children. I suspect the census taker was not able to get a reliable person to tell him the information & guessed at part of it.

In 1910, 1920 & 1930, Mack & Harriet were living in the White Oak area of Henderson Co with one or more sons. When Harriet died in Dec 1933, they said she was a widow, so I suspect Mack died between June 1930 & December 1933.

I am doing a tree for a friend, her husband is a descendant of J Baez & Minerva. This friend is a descendant of a William Durham who was born in about 1853 in Glassy Mtn TWP of Greenville Co, SC near where Minerva was living at Hogback Mountain.

The friend's family history, as passed down to her through her grandmother, told her that William M Durham's father is the same man as the father of Mack & Flem Moss; she was not given his name. I don't know yet who he was... still investigating

All the early records say that William, Mack & Flem were all born in the early to mid-1850's. Minerva was a widow then, and William's mother [Arrie Durham] was never married. Their father could never have been John Moss, Minerva's 1st husband, because he died in Dec 1847 in Mexico City, of that I'm certain.

John's military record makes it extremely clear he died on Christmas Day, it's written in 4 different records that I've found so far. On the 1850 census, Minerva & her 2 sons by John Moss (or 1 at least by John) were living in Greenville Co with her widowed father James Harrison, the sons being listed as John & William Moss with Minerva & her father James listed as Harrison's. Mack & Flem were not yet born, the 1850 census is proof of that. Census's often get ages wrong, but they rarely list children who don't exist yet.

The death date of 1926 on Mack's stone must also be incorrect as I found him living with his wife & son General Ransom Moss on the 1930 Henderson Co., NC census. I don't know who put the stones down or where they got the dates or when they added the stones, but they must have estimated the dates because Harriet's death date is one year off, too, her death cert says she died 12 December 1933.

Here is the Mack Moss family as I have them so far:

Daniel Mack Moss
Birth June 1853
in Glassy Mtn, Greenville, South Carolina, USA
Death June 1930-Dec 1933 (cannot find death cert)
probably in White Oak, Polk, North Carolina, USA

Harriet Mariah "Hattie" Dill - Moss
Birth May 1853 in Glassy Mountain TWP, Greenville, South Carolina
Death 12 Dec 1933 in White Oak, Polk, North Carolina

(1 other child died before 1910) Moss – 1910
Laura W Moss - Brown (John Wesley Brown) 1872 – 1922
Hester Ann Moss - Durham - Lindsey 1874 – 1968
Harriet Mariah "Hattie" Moss - Hardin 1876 – 1968
George W. Moss 1879 – after 1900 census
Carl Moss 1885 – after 1900 census
Anderson Nelson Moss 1888 – 1961
Daniel (Mack) "Dan" Moss Jr. 1890 – 1908
General Ransom Moss 1892 – 1970
James Henry Moss 1899 – 1976
Edgar M "Ed" Moss 1901 – 1985

--JL Rhinehart. researcher

Janice Black - From an article provided by the Laura Moss Brown family (Laura was daughter of Mack and Harriett Moss), tells of the death of Daniel Mack Moss Jr. He committed suicide in jail in June 1908 by hanging himself with bed sheets at approx age 18. His burial location is unknown.

see also
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=41424023 John P. Emory memorial.

Also, Mack Moss shows up once in the Archives of Flat Creek Baptist Church in Weaverville NC in 1884 (from Archives of Flat Creek Baptist Church available on line from UNC-CH).

Mack's brother "George Flemon Moss" was married to Matilda Jane Davis. She was a half sister to John Witt (Whitt?). This is significant because John Wesley Brown (who grew up in the household of John Witt) married Laura Moss - dau of Mack Moss.

Matilda Jane Davis was the illegitimate daughter of Richard White and her mother Catherine Davis.
Dates on grave marker appear to be incorrect. No death certificate recorded in Polk County for Daniel Mack Moss.

Update November 2013: From Janice Black - Information to me from J L Rhinehart [email protected]:

Daniel Mack Moss.... went by Mack Moss
Birth: June 1853
Glassy Mountain TWP, Greenville Co., SC
Death: 1926 (this cannot be correct as he is on the 1930 census)
White Oak TWP?, Henderson Co., SC (cannot fine death cert yet)

Daniel Mack Moss was the son of Minerva Harrison – Moss, his biological father is unknown at this time. Mack's mother Minerva Harrison married John Moss on 12 January 1845 in Greenville Co & evidently were living there when he enlisted in the Army to go to the Mexican War on 6 July 1847 in Spartanburg County.

John Moss died in Mexico City on Christmas Day the same year, as did another Moss named James Moss in the same company a few days earlier in Mexico City, perhaps they were brothers. Minerva & John Moss evidently had 2 sons, one of which she must've been pregnant with when he enlisted: John Pinkney Moss was born about 1847 & William Moss about 1848.

After Pvt. John Moss died, Minerva filed for official Guardianship of John Moss's eldest son John Pinkney Moss in Spartanburg on 12 April 1850, stating that it was to sell the "Land Warrant" property, which was land that soldiers were promised for their service starting after the Revolutionary War. Minerva also applied for a military pension & was granted one starting exactly 5 yrs after John Moss's death. The record says she was paid $3.50 for December 1852 & then $4 per month after that until the year 1857 when they wrote she remarried on 19 July 1857, evidently to J. Baze Emory, son of John "Jack" Emery & Mary __.

During the time Minerva was a war widow, she had 2 more sons whose father is unknown at this time. In June 1853, Minerva had a son she named Daniel Mack Moss, and a couple of years later she had George Flemming [Flem] Moss. On the 1860 & 1870 census's, both are living with Minerva & J Baez Emory & their children. Mack was 6 yrs old in 1860 & 16 yrs old in 1870.

In 1880, both Mack Moss & Flem Moss had moved to the Ivy area of Madison & Buncombe Counties, NC, Mack had married Harriet Mariah Dill, daughter of Esias Dill & Harriet Page Dill of Glassy Mountain TWP, Greenville Co., SC area probably in the 1870's as they already had 4 children:

• Laura W Moss - Brown (John Wesley) 1872 – 1922
• Hester Ann Moss - Durham - Lindsey 1874 – 1968
• Harriet Mariah "Hattie" Moss - Hardin 1876 – 1968
• George W. Moss 1879 –

Esias [Ezias] Dill, Harriet's father, had died about the same time Harriet was born, she was their last child.

The Spartanburg County library now has jail records for the year 1900 on microfilm (they're new). I looked up Mack (he was on the 1900 census in the jail chain gang). Mack was arrested in May 1900 in Spartanburg County for "attempting to kill" and for carrying a concealed weapon. He pled guilty 5 days later & the sentence was $150 or 3 months on the chain gang or 3 months in the state penitentiary, evidently he served out the sentence on the county chain gang because that's where he was on the 1900 census in June.

Mack's wife & children were renting a house in the Sulphur Springs area of Rutherford Co., NC, about 15-20 miles north of Spartanburg, while he was on the chain gang. Mariah was listed as having the following people in her 27 June 1900 household:

Marier Moss 35 born May 1865 married 21 yrs had 6 children/6 children alive, George 20 born April 1880 Day Laborer, Carl 15 born Feb 1885 Day Lab, Nelson 12 born Jan 1888 Day Lab, Daniel 10 born Apr 1890 Day Lab, Ransom 7 born May 1893, Henry 4 born Feb 1896 – family was not living on farm –

The section on reading & writing is not filled out, also her marriage date is probably wrong, and the number of children is wrong because by this time she had had at least 9 or 10 children. I suspect the census taker was not able to get a reliable person to tell him the information & guessed at part of it.

In 1910, 1920 & 1930, Mack & Harriet were living in the White Oak area of Henderson Co with one or more sons. When Harriet died in Dec 1933, they said she was a widow, so I suspect Mack died between June 1930 & December 1933.

I am doing a tree for a friend, her husband is a descendant of J Baez & Minerva. This friend is a descendant of a William Durham who was born in about 1853 in Glassy Mtn TWP of Greenville Co, SC near where Minerva was living at Hogback Mountain.

The friend's family history, as passed down to her through her grandmother, told her that William M Durham's father is the same man as the father of Mack & Flem Moss; she was not given his name. I don't know yet who he was... still investigating

All the early records say that William, Mack & Flem were all born in the early to mid-1850's. Minerva was a widow then, and William's mother [Arrie Durham] was never married. Their father could never have been John Moss, Minerva's 1st husband, because he died in Dec 1847 in Mexico City, of that I'm certain.

John's military record makes it extremely clear he died on Christmas Day, it's written in 4 different records that I've found so far. On the 1850 census, Minerva & her 2 sons by John Moss (or 1 at least by John) were living in Greenville Co with her widowed father James Harrison, the sons being listed as John & William Moss with Minerva & her father James listed as Harrison's. Mack & Flem were not yet born, the 1850 census is proof of that. Census's often get ages wrong, but they rarely list children who don't exist yet.

The death date of 1926 on Mack's stone must also be incorrect as I found him living with his wife & son General Ransom Moss on the 1930 Henderson Co., NC census. I don't know who put the stones down or where they got the dates or when they added the stones, but they must have estimated the dates because Harriet's death date is one year off, too, her death cert says she died 12 December 1933.

Here is the Mack Moss family as I have them so far:

Daniel Mack Moss
Birth June 1853
in Glassy Mtn, Greenville, South Carolina, USA
Death June 1930-Dec 1933 (cannot find death cert)
probably in White Oak, Polk, North Carolina, USA

Harriet Mariah "Hattie" Dill - Moss
Birth May 1853 in Glassy Mountain TWP, Greenville, South Carolina
Death 12 Dec 1933 in White Oak, Polk, North Carolina

(1 other child died before 1910) Moss – 1910
Laura W Moss - Brown (John Wesley Brown) 1872 – 1922
Hester Ann Moss - Durham - Lindsey 1874 – 1968
Harriet Mariah "Hattie" Moss - Hardin 1876 – 1968
George W. Moss 1879 – after 1900 census
Carl Moss 1885 – after 1900 census
Anderson Nelson Moss 1888 – 1961
Daniel (Mack) "Dan" Moss Jr. 1890 – 1908
General Ransom Moss 1892 – 1970
James Henry Moss 1899 – 1976
Edgar M "Ed" Moss 1901 – 1985

--JL Rhinehart. researcher

Janice Black - From an article provided by the Laura Moss Brown family (Laura was daughter of Mack and Harriett Moss), tells of the death of Daniel Mack Moss Jr. He committed suicide in jail in June 1908 by hanging himself with bed sheets at approx age 18. His burial location is unknown.

see also
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=41424023 John P. Emory memorial.

Also, Mack Moss shows up once in the Archives of Flat Creek Baptist Church in Weaverville NC in 1884 (from Archives of Flat Creek Baptist Church available on line from UNC-CH).

Mack's brother "George Flemon Moss" was married to Matilda Jane Davis. She was a half sister to John Witt (Whitt?). This is significant because John Wesley Brown (who grew up in the household of John Witt) married Laura Moss - dau of Mack Moss.

Matilda Jane Davis was the illegitimate daughter of Richard White and her mother Catherine Davis.


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