Son of Joel Todd and Serepta Vermillion. Married first Amanda Gabbard and had daughter Clara Todd. Married second to Emma May and their children were Roy Lee (d. Montana), Edward Frederic (d. Reno, NV) and Lewis Davis (d. Omak, WA).
Was notified his headstone was incorrect.
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Student at Berea 1885-1890. Marriage bond (Amanda's) dated June 19, 1896. Berea College Historical Register of 1904. Buried the the Blue Cemetery, Blue Oklahoma (between McAlester and Arpelar). Jan. 13, 1890 last time Joel is registered for classes. Joel received a "B" in Math and Geography. Berea grade book, does not list the year. Feb. 11, 1907 He filed for a pension from the army.(I found this under Civil War Pension Index, must be the same Joel Elias because it stated that he served in B troop 3rd Cav.)
Register of Enlistments for 1892 shows Joel E. Todd enlisted into "B" troop, 3rd Cavalry, in Cincinnati, Ohio, Oct. 19, 1892. Age 21 years 9 months. Born in Berea, Ky., Blue eyes, light brown hair, dark complexion, 5ft. 8 ins.. Discharged May 12, 1894 at Fort El Reno, Oklahoma Territory, Pvt., excellent record.
1880 Madison County, Kentucky Census lists him as Elias Joel age 9 yrs. 1910 Madison County Census he is 39 and has been married to Emma for two years. Also his name is spelled Joe. Uncle Lee (Roy L. in the census) was listed as 1yr. 4 mo.
1900 Madison County, Kentucky Census lists him as Joseph E. age 28, living with his parents Joseph and Serpta Todd and their son Green V. age 21. Also a granddaugther Mary age 2 live with them maybe Joel's daugther, Clara? Mary was born July 1897, same as Clara. Census was taken in April. Ages are always at last birthday. Joel was listed as married.
Joel enlisted in the cavalry when he was young. Uncle Lee told me that Joel had attended medical school but quit when other students started throwing body parts around during a class. He always had a medical bag that he kept with him. He was stationed at Fort El Reno in Oklahoma Territory and while in service there fired the second shot at the start of the Cherokee Outlet land rush, Sept. 16, 1893. Over 50,000 people claimed land on the 6.5 million acre area the first day. Joel had a land claim (staked out before the rush) and later gave it to a woman, oil was later discovered on the land. His father paid $100 to have him discharged, because Joel decided that he didn't like army life. Joel delivered mail at one time between Berea and Ashbury.
Joel killed a man when he was about 75 yrs old. The man had accused him of buying land out from under him that he had intended to purchase. He threatened to beat up Joel, if he caught him by his self, one day when he saw him in the store. This was witnessed by other people which allowed for the shooting to be self defense. The man he shot was in his 30s and apparently didn't know that Joel always carried a pistol under his coat. He also shot a man in the leg for cutting across his land. He had told the man not to cut across his property, that was why the fence was there and he should go around it, and what the consequences would be if he continue to do it.
He believed that people shouldn't have to be told more than once. One occurrence or this was when Uncle Lee was a young man and brought home a friend. The young man was smoking a pipe, before he enter the house grandpa Joel told him " I don't allow smoking in my house." so the young man put it out. After supper the young man lean back in his chair against the wall and lit his pipe. Grandpa Joel slapped him across the face knocking the pipe out of his mouth, picked him up and tossed him out the door and stated " I told you that I didn't allow smoking in my house." Joel was also good with a buggy whip dad said that he would "touch our rears with the very tip of the whip when we misbehave. Dad said that he learned quickly.
Joel also didn't allow cussing in front of women. He often got into fights to enforce his policy. Joel's temper kept him in trouble and his father often had to bail him out of the trouble he got himself into. His temper and the being hard on his kids I think is what broke up his marriage with Emma. That's the way dad talked when I asked him, but he was 80 at the time. Although they separated they never divorced, and when they would meet in the store they would call each other Mr. Todd and Mrs. Todd.
Another story had to do with dad's friend Ira Stevens grandpa's neighbor. Joel noticed Ira sitting in a chair between the two houses. He went out from the house a way and look where Ira was sitting. He then went to Ira and said " Mr. Stevens I believed you are sitting on my land, what do you intend to do about it." Ira looked at Joel and replied "Well Mr. Todd I guess I better just move my chair."
Joel supposedly knifed one of his brothers over a horse trade (dad thought it was Rafael but wasn't sure). Joel thought he had fatten up the horse before the trade. A few days after the trade the horse's ribs was showing. When the brother refused to take back the horse a fight started. I think that is the reason grandpa ended up in the army. While he was in the army he once had Belle Starr in his sights when her gang was trying to steal army horses. He didn't shoot because the officer had ordered to cease fire. The last story I have of Joel is one Uncle Lee told me on 7-26-98 when I visited him and Aunt Bessie. While in the army Joel caught a man stealing government hay (Joe Arndt). He had it cut and loaded in his wagon when grandpa came by. He ordered the man to get down from the wagon and to unload the hay. The fellow cussed at Joel and told him to go to hell. Joel then lit a match and set the hay on fire and stated " Bet you'll get it off now." He quickly jumped down and started to unload the hay before his wagon caught on fire. Uncle Lee also told me that grandpa's name was Joel Elias, not Elias Joel as listed in the 1880 census, and he had known him his whole life. He also stated that Grandpa Joel, his fathter and his grandfather were all named Joel Elias, but I believe that Joel was named after his two grandfathers. Elias coming from Elias Perry Vermillion. Joel worked as a farmer, mail carrier, and in the oil fields in Oklahoma, and later in life as a gardener.
The only memories that I have of grandpa Joel is sharing his chicken noodle soup one day. I would sit with grandpa and some other old men at the general store in Arpelar, where they would smoke cigars and chew tobacco. They would give me my own cigar. I called them big smokes. I also remember a cavalry saber grandpa had.
(Unknown writer)
(Contributed by 47941869)
Was notified his headstone was incorrect.
_____________________
Student at Berea 1885-1890. Marriage bond (Amanda's) dated June 19, 1896. Berea College Historical Register of 1904. Buried the the Blue Cemetery, Blue Oklahoma (between McAlester and Arpelar). Jan. 13, 1890 last time Joel is registered for classes. Joel received a "B" in Math and Geography. Berea grade book, does not list the year. Feb. 11, 1907 He filed for a pension from the army.(I found this under Civil War Pension Index, must be the same Joel Elias because it stated that he served in B troop 3rd Cav.)
Register of Enlistments for 1892 shows Joel E. Todd enlisted into "B" troop, 3rd Cavalry, in Cincinnati, Ohio, Oct. 19, 1892. Age 21 years 9 months. Born in Berea, Ky., Blue eyes, light brown hair, dark complexion, 5ft. 8 ins.. Discharged May 12, 1894 at Fort El Reno, Oklahoma Territory, Pvt., excellent record.
1880 Madison County, Kentucky Census lists him as Elias Joel age 9 yrs. 1910 Madison County Census he is 39 and has been married to Emma for two years. Also his name is spelled Joe. Uncle Lee (Roy L. in the census) was listed as 1yr. 4 mo.
1900 Madison County, Kentucky Census lists him as Joseph E. age 28, living with his parents Joseph and Serpta Todd and their son Green V. age 21. Also a granddaugther Mary age 2 live with them maybe Joel's daugther, Clara? Mary was born July 1897, same as Clara. Census was taken in April. Ages are always at last birthday. Joel was listed as married.
Joel enlisted in the cavalry when he was young. Uncle Lee told me that Joel had attended medical school but quit when other students started throwing body parts around during a class. He always had a medical bag that he kept with him. He was stationed at Fort El Reno in Oklahoma Territory and while in service there fired the second shot at the start of the Cherokee Outlet land rush, Sept. 16, 1893. Over 50,000 people claimed land on the 6.5 million acre area the first day. Joel had a land claim (staked out before the rush) and later gave it to a woman, oil was later discovered on the land. His father paid $100 to have him discharged, because Joel decided that he didn't like army life. Joel delivered mail at one time between Berea and Ashbury.
Joel killed a man when he was about 75 yrs old. The man had accused him of buying land out from under him that he had intended to purchase. He threatened to beat up Joel, if he caught him by his self, one day when he saw him in the store. This was witnessed by other people which allowed for the shooting to be self defense. The man he shot was in his 30s and apparently didn't know that Joel always carried a pistol under his coat. He also shot a man in the leg for cutting across his land. He had told the man not to cut across his property, that was why the fence was there and he should go around it, and what the consequences would be if he continue to do it.
He believed that people shouldn't have to be told more than once. One occurrence or this was when Uncle Lee was a young man and brought home a friend. The young man was smoking a pipe, before he enter the house grandpa Joel told him " I don't allow smoking in my house." so the young man put it out. After supper the young man lean back in his chair against the wall and lit his pipe. Grandpa Joel slapped him across the face knocking the pipe out of his mouth, picked him up and tossed him out the door and stated " I told you that I didn't allow smoking in my house." Joel was also good with a buggy whip dad said that he would "touch our rears with the very tip of the whip when we misbehave. Dad said that he learned quickly.
Joel also didn't allow cussing in front of women. He often got into fights to enforce his policy. Joel's temper kept him in trouble and his father often had to bail him out of the trouble he got himself into. His temper and the being hard on his kids I think is what broke up his marriage with Emma. That's the way dad talked when I asked him, but he was 80 at the time. Although they separated they never divorced, and when they would meet in the store they would call each other Mr. Todd and Mrs. Todd.
Another story had to do with dad's friend Ira Stevens grandpa's neighbor. Joel noticed Ira sitting in a chair between the two houses. He went out from the house a way and look where Ira was sitting. He then went to Ira and said " Mr. Stevens I believed you are sitting on my land, what do you intend to do about it." Ira looked at Joel and replied "Well Mr. Todd I guess I better just move my chair."
Joel supposedly knifed one of his brothers over a horse trade (dad thought it was Rafael but wasn't sure). Joel thought he had fatten up the horse before the trade. A few days after the trade the horse's ribs was showing. When the brother refused to take back the horse a fight started. I think that is the reason grandpa ended up in the army. While he was in the army he once had Belle Starr in his sights when her gang was trying to steal army horses. He didn't shoot because the officer had ordered to cease fire. The last story I have of Joel is one Uncle Lee told me on 7-26-98 when I visited him and Aunt Bessie. While in the army Joel caught a man stealing government hay (Joe Arndt). He had it cut and loaded in his wagon when grandpa came by. He ordered the man to get down from the wagon and to unload the hay. The fellow cussed at Joel and told him to go to hell. Joel then lit a match and set the hay on fire and stated " Bet you'll get it off now." He quickly jumped down and started to unload the hay before his wagon caught on fire. Uncle Lee also told me that grandpa's name was Joel Elias, not Elias Joel as listed in the 1880 census, and he had known him his whole life. He also stated that Grandpa Joel, his fathter and his grandfather were all named Joel Elias, but I believe that Joel was named after his two grandfathers. Elias coming from Elias Perry Vermillion. Joel worked as a farmer, mail carrier, and in the oil fields in Oklahoma, and later in life as a gardener.
The only memories that I have of grandpa Joel is sharing his chicken noodle soup one day. I would sit with grandpa and some other old men at the general store in Arpelar, where they would smoke cigars and chew tobacco. They would give me my own cigar. I called them big smokes. I also remember a cavalry saber grandpa had.
(Unknown writer)
(Contributed by 47941869)
Son of Joel Todd and Serepta Vermillion. Married first Amanda Gabbard and had daughter Clara Todd. Married second to Emma May and their children were Roy Lee (d. Montana), Edward Frederic (d. Reno, NV) and Lewis Davis (d. Omak, WA).
Was notified his headstone was incorrect.
_____________________
Student at Berea 1885-1890. Marriage bond (Amanda's) dated June 19, 1896. Berea College Historical Register of 1904. Buried the the Blue Cemetery, Blue Oklahoma (between McAlester and Arpelar). Jan. 13, 1890 last time Joel is registered for classes. Joel received a "B" in Math and Geography. Berea grade book, does not list the year. Feb. 11, 1907 He filed for a pension from the army.(I found this under Civil War Pension Index, must be the same Joel Elias because it stated that he served in B troop 3rd Cav.)
Register of Enlistments for 1892 shows Joel E. Todd enlisted into "B" troop, 3rd Cavalry, in Cincinnati, Ohio, Oct. 19, 1892. Age 21 years 9 months. Born in Berea, Ky., Blue eyes, light brown hair, dark complexion, 5ft. 8 ins.. Discharged May 12, 1894 at Fort El Reno, Oklahoma Territory, Pvt., excellent record.
1880 Madison County, Kentucky Census lists him as Elias Joel age 9 yrs. 1910 Madison County Census he is 39 and has been married to Emma for two years. Also his name is spelled Joe. Uncle Lee (Roy L. in the census) was listed as 1yr. 4 mo.
1900 Madison County, Kentucky Census lists him as Joseph E. age 28, living with his parents Joseph and Serpta Todd and their son Green V. age 21. Also a granddaugther Mary age 2 live with them maybe Joel's daugther, Clara? Mary was born July 1897, same as Clara. Census was taken in April. Ages are always at last birthday. Joel was listed as married.
Joel enlisted in the cavalry when he was young. Uncle Lee told me that Joel had attended medical school but quit when other students started throwing body parts around during a class. He always had a medical bag that he kept with him. He was stationed at Fort El Reno in Oklahoma Territory and while in service there fired the second shot at the start of the Cherokee Outlet land rush, Sept. 16, 1893. Over 50,000 people claimed land on the 6.5 million acre area the first day. Joel had a land claim (staked out before the rush) and later gave it to a woman, oil was later discovered on the land. His father paid $100 to have him discharged, because Joel decided that he didn't like army life. Joel delivered mail at one time between Berea and Ashbury.
Joel killed a man when he was about 75 yrs old. The man had accused him of buying land out from under him that he had intended to purchase. He threatened to beat up Joel, if he caught him by his self, one day when he saw him in the store. This was witnessed by other people which allowed for the shooting to be self defense. The man he shot was in his 30s and apparently didn't know that Joel always carried a pistol under his coat. He also shot a man in the leg for cutting across his land. He had told the man not to cut across his property, that was why the fence was there and he should go around it, and what the consequences would be if he continue to do it.
He believed that people shouldn't have to be told more than once. One occurrence or this was when Uncle Lee was a young man and brought home a friend. The young man was smoking a pipe, before he enter the house grandpa Joel told him " I don't allow smoking in my house." so the young man put it out. After supper the young man lean back in his chair against the wall and lit his pipe. Grandpa Joel slapped him across the face knocking the pipe out of his mouth, picked him up and tossed him out the door and stated " I told you that I didn't allow smoking in my house." Joel was also good with a buggy whip dad said that he would "touch our rears with the very tip of the whip when we misbehave. Dad said that he learned quickly.
Joel also didn't allow cussing in front of women. He often got into fights to enforce his policy. Joel's temper kept him in trouble and his father often had to bail him out of the trouble he got himself into. His temper and the being hard on his kids I think is what broke up his marriage with Emma. That's the way dad talked when I asked him, but he was 80 at the time. Although they separated they never divorced, and when they would meet in the store they would call each other Mr. Todd and Mrs. Todd.
Another story had to do with dad's friend Ira Stevens grandpa's neighbor. Joel noticed Ira sitting in a chair between the two houses. He went out from the house a way and look where Ira was sitting. He then went to Ira and said " Mr. Stevens I believed you are sitting on my land, what do you intend to do about it." Ira looked at Joel and replied "Well Mr. Todd I guess I better just move my chair."
Joel supposedly knifed one of his brothers over a horse trade (dad thought it was Rafael but wasn't sure). Joel thought he had fatten up the horse before the trade. A few days after the trade the horse's ribs was showing. When the brother refused to take back the horse a fight started. I think that is the reason grandpa ended up in the army. While he was in the army he once had Belle Starr in his sights when her gang was trying to steal army horses. He didn't shoot because the officer had ordered to cease fire. The last story I have of Joel is one Uncle Lee told me on 7-26-98 when I visited him and Aunt Bessie. While in the army Joel caught a man stealing government hay (Joe Arndt). He had it cut and loaded in his wagon when grandpa came by. He ordered the man to get down from the wagon and to unload the hay. The fellow cussed at Joel and told him to go to hell. Joel then lit a match and set the hay on fire and stated " Bet you'll get it off now." He quickly jumped down and started to unload the hay before his wagon caught on fire. Uncle Lee also told me that grandpa's name was Joel Elias, not Elias Joel as listed in the 1880 census, and he had known him his whole life. He also stated that Grandpa Joel, his fathter and his grandfather were all named Joel Elias, but I believe that Joel was named after his two grandfathers. Elias coming from Elias Perry Vermillion. Joel worked as a farmer, mail carrier, and in the oil fields in Oklahoma, and later in life as a gardener.
The only memories that I have of grandpa Joel is sharing his chicken noodle soup one day. I would sit with grandpa and some other old men at the general store in Arpelar, where they would smoke cigars and chew tobacco. They would give me my own cigar. I called them big smokes. I also remember a cavalry saber grandpa had.
(Unknown writer)
(Contributed by 47941869)
Was notified his headstone was incorrect.
_____________________
Student at Berea 1885-1890. Marriage bond (Amanda's) dated June 19, 1896. Berea College Historical Register of 1904. Buried the the Blue Cemetery, Blue Oklahoma (between McAlester and Arpelar). Jan. 13, 1890 last time Joel is registered for classes. Joel received a "B" in Math and Geography. Berea grade book, does not list the year. Feb. 11, 1907 He filed for a pension from the army.(I found this under Civil War Pension Index, must be the same Joel Elias because it stated that he served in B troop 3rd Cav.)
Register of Enlistments for 1892 shows Joel E. Todd enlisted into "B" troop, 3rd Cavalry, in Cincinnati, Ohio, Oct. 19, 1892. Age 21 years 9 months. Born in Berea, Ky., Blue eyes, light brown hair, dark complexion, 5ft. 8 ins.. Discharged May 12, 1894 at Fort El Reno, Oklahoma Territory, Pvt., excellent record.
1880 Madison County, Kentucky Census lists him as Elias Joel age 9 yrs. 1910 Madison County Census he is 39 and has been married to Emma for two years. Also his name is spelled Joe. Uncle Lee (Roy L. in the census) was listed as 1yr. 4 mo.
1900 Madison County, Kentucky Census lists him as Joseph E. age 28, living with his parents Joseph and Serpta Todd and their son Green V. age 21. Also a granddaugther Mary age 2 live with them maybe Joel's daugther, Clara? Mary was born July 1897, same as Clara. Census was taken in April. Ages are always at last birthday. Joel was listed as married.
Joel enlisted in the cavalry when he was young. Uncle Lee told me that Joel had attended medical school but quit when other students started throwing body parts around during a class. He always had a medical bag that he kept with him. He was stationed at Fort El Reno in Oklahoma Territory and while in service there fired the second shot at the start of the Cherokee Outlet land rush, Sept. 16, 1893. Over 50,000 people claimed land on the 6.5 million acre area the first day. Joel had a land claim (staked out before the rush) and later gave it to a woman, oil was later discovered on the land. His father paid $100 to have him discharged, because Joel decided that he didn't like army life. Joel delivered mail at one time between Berea and Ashbury.
Joel killed a man when he was about 75 yrs old. The man had accused him of buying land out from under him that he had intended to purchase. He threatened to beat up Joel, if he caught him by his self, one day when he saw him in the store. This was witnessed by other people which allowed for the shooting to be self defense. The man he shot was in his 30s and apparently didn't know that Joel always carried a pistol under his coat. He also shot a man in the leg for cutting across his land. He had told the man not to cut across his property, that was why the fence was there and he should go around it, and what the consequences would be if he continue to do it.
He believed that people shouldn't have to be told more than once. One occurrence or this was when Uncle Lee was a young man and brought home a friend. The young man was smoking a pipe, before he enter the house grandpa Joel told him " I don't allow smoking in my house." so the young man put it out. After supper the young man lean back in his chair against the wall and lit his pipe. Grandpa Joel slapped him across the face knocking the pipe out of his mouth, picked him up and tossed him out the door and stated " I told you that I didn't allow smoking in my house." Joel was also good with a buggy whip dad said that he would "touch our rears with the very tip of the whip when we misbehave. Dad said that he learned quickly.
Joel also didn't allow cussing in front of women. He often got into fights to enforce his policy. Joel's temper kept him in trouble and his father often had to bail him out of the trouble he got himself into. His temper and the being hard on his kids I think is what broke up his marriage with Emma. That's the way dad talked when I asked him, but he was 80 at the time. Although they separated they never divorced, and when they would meet in the store they would call each other Mr. Todd and Mrs. Todd.
Another story had to do with dad's friend Ira Stevens grandpa's neighbor. Joel noticed Ira sitting in a chair between the two houses. He went out from the house a way and look where Ira was sitting. He then went to Ira and said " Mr. Stevens I believed you are sitting on my land, what do you intend to do about it." Ira looked at Joel and replied "Well Mr. Todd I guess I better just move my chair."
Joel supposedly knifed one of his brothers over a horse trade (dad thought it was Rafael but wasn't sure). Joel thought he had fatten up the horse before the trade. A few days after the trade the horse's ribs was showing. When the brother refused to take back the horse a fight started. I think that is the reason grandpa ended up in the army. While he was in the army he once had Belle Starr in his sights when her gang was trying to steal army horses. He didn't shoot because the officer had ordered to cease fire. The last story I have of Joel is one Uncle Lee told me on 7-26-98 when I visited him and Aunt Bessie. While in the army Joel caught a man stealing government hay (Joe Arndt). He had it cut and loaded in his wagon when grandpa came by. He ordered the man to get down from the wagon and to unload the hay. The fellow cussed at Joel and told him to go to hell. Joel then lit a match and set the hay on fire and stated " Bet you'll get it off now." He quickly jumped down and started to unload the hay before his wagon caught on fire. Uncle Lee also told me that grandpa's name was Joel Elias, not Elias Joel as listed in the 1880 census, and he had known him his whole life. He also stated that Grandpa Joel, his fathter and his grandfather were all named Joel Elias, but I believe that Joel was named after his two grandfathers. Elias coming from Elias Perry Vermillion. Joel worked as a farmer, mail carrier, and in the oil fields in Oklahoma, and later in life as a gardener.
The only memories that I have of grandpa Joel is sharing his chicken noodle soup one day. I would sit with grandpa and some other old men at the general store in Arpelar, where they would smoke cigars and chew tobacco. They would give me my own cigar. I called them big smokes. I also remember a cavalry saber grandpa had.
(Unknown writer)
(Contributed by 47941869)
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