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Pvt John Back

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Pvt John Back

Birth
Virginia, USA
Death
15 Apr 1845 (aged 84)
Monroe County, Indiana, USA
Burial
Monroe County, Indiana, USA
Memorial ID
46916005 View Source

Please note that his grave has an incorrect date of death (1840), and DAR has an incorrect date of death (1843). He actually died in 1845, as proven by the military record that documented his pension payments, which is attached to this memorial.

Revolutionary War Veteran, enlisted in Virginia, in 1778.
Served under Gen.George Rogers Clark in the Illinois Regiment.

It is known that John Back took part in some of Clark's old Northwest campaigns. He is listed as one of the privates in the Regiment who did not receive their promised land grants after the war.

The Revolutionary War pension application of John Back (S32103) for his service contains information about his birth, places he lived, and how long he lived in each place, in addition to his military service. (Please note that "The Back-Bach Genealogical Society" claimed that his pension application said that he was born in Culpeper County, VA, and that, in 1772, his father took him and his brother Jacob down to Washington County, VA and just dumped them there, and then he returned to Culpeper County, leaving them there, and that his father then married Margaret Hoffman. However, his pension application does not say that at all. It simply said that his family moved from Culpeper County to Washington County, when he was 12 years old. It also said that he left Washington County, in 1794, when he was 34 years old, which was when his father died.)

NOTE: "The Back-Bach Genealogical Society" was notorious for claiming that old documents stated things that they never stated...hoping that nobody would ever take the time to research it for themselves. John Back was not related to Harman Back from Freudenberg, Germany, in any way whatsoever. These were 2 separate and completely different Back familes.

John Back was born in June of 1760 in Culpeper County, Virginia, the son of the immigrant John William Back (Johann Wilhelm Bach) and his wife Mary Marberry.

When he was about 12 years old, he and his family moved to Washington County, Virginia where he lived until he was about 34 years old. While John Back was living in Washington County, he enlisted in the "army of the United States" in March, 1778, for twelve months, as a private.

He served in the regiment commanded by Captain Thomas Quirk, Colonel John Montgomery, and General George Rogers Clark. His service began with a march lasting three months to Long Island of the Holston River (present-day Kingston, Tennessee), where they traveled by water down to the French Broad River, then on to the Chickimogee towns on the Tennessee River. The soldiers burned the towns and drove the Indians away.

The regiment marched onto the mouth of the Tennessee River, down the Ohio River to the mouth, and up the Mississippi River to Caskaski (Kaskaskia, Illinois), where they remained on garrison duty for some time. John Back's regiment marched to the Outpost and remained there for three months, before returning to Caskaski for two months. Leaving Caskaski, they marched upriver to Coho, where they remained until the British and Indians attacked. John Back stated in his pension application that "they had considerable skirmishes with them."

After returning to Caskaski, John Back was discharged, in writing, with a credit of fifteen months having served his enlistment. He enlisted again as a volunteer private and went with the army four hundred miles up the Mississippi River, and then one hundred miles by land to an Indian town. The British and Indians fled the area as soon as the army arrived. The soldiers burned the town and destroyed the corn. After destroying the town, the soldiers returned to Caskaski, having been gone for two months on the expedition. John Back was discharged a second time with a credit of two more months of service.

John Back tells the story of his return home: "I was now very unwell and almost naked. And resolved to come home as soon as I was able, I started down the Mississippi to the mouth of the Ohio, thence to the mouth of the Tennessee, thence to where is now Nashville, thence to the Crab Orchard in Kentucky, thence home to my father's in Washington County, Virginia. Being absent two years and three months."

At the age of thirty-four years, John Back moved to lands in Floyd County, Kentucky, where he remained for ten years. He then moved on to Wayne County, Kentucky, where his brother Jacob lived, and he lived there for twenty-four years, before moving to Monroe County, Indiana. He remained in Monroe County, Indiana for six years before returning to Wayne County, Kentucky.

On May 26, 1835, in Wayne County, Kentucky, John Back applied for a pension based on his service in the army. His application was approved and certificate #29963 was issued on June 15, 1835. He received $46 per year, beginning March 4, 1831, based on the Act of June 7, 1832. (Source: S32103 pension application of John Back, Virginia, Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application Files, M804, NARA, Washington, DC.)

Children of John Back and his wife Sarah: Constance (born about 1789); Jacob (born about 1791); Elizabeth (born on 4-3-1796); Mary (born about 1800); Nancy (born about 1801); Sarah (born on 3-2-1806); Charles (born about 1807); John (born about 1809); and Patience (born in 1813).
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The Library of Virginia maintains a card file with the historical records collected by Gordon Aronhime, in the area around the Holston-Clinch River, in the 1700s. There are two cards about John Back (now attached to this memorial). They show that he was born in June of 1760, in Culpeper County, VA, and that he was still living in Monroe County, IN in 1843 [he died in 1845]. It says that he moved to the Clinch River with his father in 1772, and that, in March of 1779, he enlisted to serve in the war. He enlisted under Capt.(John?) Evans, by Capt. Thomas Quicken, for Illinois service in (unreadable). In 1794, he went to Floyd County, KY; in 1804, he went to Wayne County, KY; in 1828, he went to Monroe County, IN; in Feb of 1835, he went to Wayne County, IN; and from 1838-1843, he was back in Monroe County, IN-- he was still alive on April 14, 1843.

Please note that his grave has an incorrect date of death (1840), and DAR has an incorrect date of death (1843). He actually died in 1845, as proven by the military record that documented his pension payments, which is attached to this memorial.

Revolutionary War Veteran, enlisted in Virginia, in 1778.
Served under Gen.George Rogers Clark in the Illinois Regiment.

It is known that John Back took part in some of Clark's old Northwest campaigns. He is listed as one of the privates in the Regiment who did not receive their promised land grants after the war.

The Revolutionary War pension application of John Back (S32103) for his service contains information about his birth, places he lived, and how long he lived in each place, in addition to his military service. (Please note that "The Back-Bach Genealogical Society" claimed that his pension application said that he was born in Culpeper County, VA, and that, in 1772, his father took him and his brother Jacob down to Washington County, VA and just dumped them there, and then he returned to Culpeper County, leaving them there, and that his father then married Margaret Hoffman. However, his pension application does not say that at all. It simply said that his family moved from Culpeper County to Washington County, when he was 12 years old. It also said that he left Washington County, in 1794, when he was 34 years old, which was when his father died.)

NOTE: "The Back-Bach Genealogical Society" was notorious for claiming that old documents stated things that they never stated...hoping that nobody would ever take the time to research it for themselves. John Back was not related to Harman Back from Freudenberg, Germany, in any way whatsoever. These were 2 separate and completely different Back familes.

John Back was born in June of 1760 in Culpeper County, Virginia, the son of the immigrant John William Back (Johann Wilhelm Bach) and his wife Mary Marberry.

When he was about 12 years old, he and his family moved to Washington County, Virginia where he lived until he was about 34 years old. While John Back was living in Washington County, he enlisted in the "army of the United States" in March, 1778, for twelve months, as a private.

He served in the regiment commanded by Captain Thomas Quirk, Colonel John Montgomery, and General George Rogers Clark. His service began with a march lasting three months to Long Island of the Holston River (present-day Kingston, Tennessee), where they traveled by water down to the French Broad River, then on to the Chickimogee towns on the Tennessee River. The soldiers burned the towns and drove the Indians away.

The regiment marched onto the mouth of the Tennessee River, down the Ohio River to the mouth, and up the Mississippi River to Caskaski (Kaskaskia, Illinois), where they remained on garrison duty for some time. John Back's regiment marched to the Outpost and remained there for three months, before returning to Caskaski for two months. Leaving Caskaski, they marched upriver to Coho, where they remained until the British and Indians attacked. John Back stated in his pension application that "they had considerable skirmishes with them."

After returning to Caskaski, John Back was discharged, in writing, with a credit of fifteen months having served his enlistment. He enlisted again as a volunteer private and went with the army four hundred miles up the Mississippi River, and then one hundred miles by land to an Indian town. The British and Indians fled the area as soon as the army arrived. The soldiers burned the town and destroyed the corn. After destroying the town, the soldiers returned to Caskaski, having been gone for two months on the expedition. John Back was discharged a second time with a credit of two more months of service.

John Back tells the story of his return home: "I was now very unwell and almost naked. And resolved to come home as soon as I was able, I started down the Mississippi to the mouth of the Ohio, thence to the mouth of the Tennessee, thence to where is now Nashville, thence to the Crab Orchard in Kentucky, thence home to my father's in Washington County, Virginia. Being absent two years and three months."

At the age of thirty-four years, John Back moved to lands in Floyd County, Kentucky, where he remained for ten years. He then moved on to Wayne County, Kentucky, where his brother Jacob lived, and he lived there for twenty-four years, before moving to Monroe County, Indiana. He remained in Monroe County, Indiana for six years before returning to Wayne County, Kentucky.

On May 26, 1835, in Wayne County, Kentucky, John Back applied for a pension based on his service in the army. His application was approved and certificate #29963 was issued on June 15, 1835. He received $46 per year, beginning March 4, 1831, based on the Act of June 7, 1832. (Source: S32103 pension application of John Back, Virginia, Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application Files, M804, NARA, Washington, DC.)

Children of John Back and his wife Sarah: Constance (born about 1789); Jacob (born about 1791); Elizabeth (born on 4-3-1796); Mary (born about 1800); Nancy (born about 1801); Sarah (born on 3-2-1806); Charles (born about 1807); John (born about 1809); and Patience (born in 1813).
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The Library of Virginia maintains a card file with the historical records collected by Gordon Aronhime, in the area around the Holston-Clinch River, in the 1700s. There are two cards about John Back (now attached to this memorial). They show that he was born in June of 1760, in Culpeper County, VA, and that he was still living in Monroe County, IN in 1843 [he died in 1845]. It says that he moved to the Clinch River with his father in 1772, and that, in March of 1779, he enlisted to serve in the war. He enlisted under Capt.(John?) Evans, by Capt. Thomas Quicken, for Illinois service in (unreadable). In 1794, he went to Floyd County, KY; in 1804, he went to Wayne County, KY; in 1828, he went to Monroe County, IN; in Feb of 1835, he went to Wayne County, IN; and from 1838-1843, he was back in Monroe County, IN-- he was still alive on April 14, 1843.


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  • Maintained by: Marci Harris
  • Originally Created by: Kent Rhodes
  • Added: 20 Jan 2010
  • Find a Grave Memorial ID: 46916005
  • Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/46916005/john-back: accessed ), memorial page for Pvt John Back (25 Jun 1760–15 Apr 1845), Find a Grave Memorial ID 46916005, citing Simpson Chapel Methodist Church Cemetery, Monroe County, Indiana, USA; Maintained by Marci Harris (contributor 50273606).