George Allen married (2) by 1627, Katherine ____ (assuming that William was her oldest Allen child).
They had five children: William, Mathew, Henry, Samuel, & Gideon.
She married (2) by 1656, John Collins of Boston. On 27 Jul 1670, Gideon Allen was granted administration on the estate of "John Collins late of Boston deceased." (John K. Allen noted the marriage in London on 5 Nov 1624 of "George Allen of London, Clothworker, and Katherine Starkes of Woking," Surrey & noted that this was a good chronological fit for the New England couple. Since George Allen was very likely from Somerset, & is not known to have been in London, this suggestion seems unlikely, but --pending further research-- not impossible.
(In 1990 Joan S. Guilford prepared an unreliable account of George Allen which ascribed to him 15 children, some of whom were actually his grandchildren & others of whom were not related at all.)
Source: Anderson's Great Migration Study Project∼The dates and places of Katherine's purported birth and death, purported date of marriage, and below named children are per the original creator of this memorial. They are subject to considerable revision after careful review of all known historical facts by the current maintainer of this memorial with details to follow. The claim also by the original creator of this memorial that Katherine is buried in Spring Hill Cemetery in Sandwich is a mere guess unsubstantiated by any known record.
The claim that a George Allen, who purportedly married Katherine Starkes in London in 1624, are one and the same as George Allen and his wife Katherine of Sandwich, Mass. is unproved. Such identical identity was a mere suggestion by John Kermott Allen in 1924, which Allen did not believe as proven evidence. This marriage was more recently commented on by Anderson as unlikely evidence in the biographical sketch of George Allen of Sandwich, Mass. in the Great Migration Study Project of the NEHGS (initially Volumes 1-3 of the Great Migration Begins series). For the interested reader, see pp. 3-6 of George Allen of Weymouth, Mass., 1635... available online at https://archive.org/details/georgeallenofwey00alle.
Also see Vol. 1:28 of the Great Migration Study Project of the NEHGS, available online to its members, specifically to 1:28 and 1:30.
In fact, as published by J. K. Allen in 1924 referring to Marriage Licences by the Bishop of London (1611-1828, p. 146), Allen changed the typed maiden name of the intended bride, Katherine "Slarks" to Starks, with the actual recorded marriage record handwritten as "Katherin Slarkes", not Starkes. Thus, in 1624 a George Allen then of London married a Katherine Slarks or Slarkes, not Starkes.
Katherin Starkes, not Slarkes. The scribe often omitted the cross of the t throughout the document, such as 3 lines below for the Fletcher entry, where County is spelled without crossing the t. Also all letters were pronounced, so Starkie and Starkey are homonyms. This name derives from the Medieval English "Stark" itself coming from the Olde English pre 7th Century "stearc" meaning "firm and unyielding". The name was originally given as a nickname to a strong determined person and is first recorded in the early half of the 13th Century.
Based on the above references claiming that Katherine (---)(Allen) Collins was one and the same person as the Katherine who married a George Allen in London in 1624 only serves to perpetuate unproven genealogy.
----------
By the original creator of this memorial:
Parents are unknown. She married George Allen on Nov. 5, 1624 at All Hollows in Honey Lane, London, England. They had the first two children in England and the remaining ones in America.
William Allen-circa 1627-1 Oct 1705.
Matthew Allen-circa 1629-15 May 1695.
Robert Allen, circa 1633-May 15, 1661.
Henry Allen-circa 1637-1690.
Samuel Allen-circa 1640.
Gideon Allen-circa 1645-1693.
Katherine Starkes husband, George Allen that was the son of Richard Allen of the Tower of London, who was still residing in London, England as late as 1640, when he was mentioned in his brother, Henry's, will. This George Allen is also believed to be the same George Allen who died at St. Michael Queenhithe, London on 26 March 1664.
Thanks to the The Records of London's Livery Companies Online = http://www.londonroll.org/ I was able to find some tidbits that help confirm the fact that George Allen the clothmaker was a totally different George than the one who immigrated to Mass.
1. Henricus Allen - London - New apprentice, son of Rici - Monnyer - Turri London, London. Jozeph Ussher - Master Co Clothworker. Start Date: 25/07/1610 Apprentice Bond Length: 10 years.
2. Georgius Allen - London - New apprentice, Son of Rici Allen Monnyer - Turrim London, London. Jozeph Ussher - Master Co Clothworker. Start Date: 30/09/1613 Apprentice Bond Length: 9 years.
3. Georg Allen - New freeman Co Clothworker, Jozeph Usher - Master Co Clothworker, 1620.
4. George Allen the Elder Sheeremaker - Queenehithe Master Co Clothworker, William Johnson - London - New apprentice - Start Date: 11/02/1658.
The age of apprenticeship was usually 14-21. So this would give George Allen, clothworker a birth date of about 1598, which would make him about 26 when he married Katherine Slarks. Since George Allen the clothworker from Queenhithe, London was busy still being a clothworker in 1658, he could not have been the George Allen who traveled to America with Rev John Hull since he died in the year 1648.
So if you would not mind having the photos of the marriage record removed to avoid further confusion.
Source: Great Migration Study Project
They had five children: William, Mathew, Henry, Samuel, & Gideon.
She married (2) by 1656, John Collins of Boston. On 27 Jul 1670, Gideon Allen was granted administration on the estate of "John Collins late of Boston deceased." (John K. Allen noted the marriage in London on 5 Nov 1624 of "George Allen of London, Clothworker, and Katherine Starkes of Woking," Surrey & noted that this was a good chronological fit for the New England couple. Since George Allen was very likely from Somerset, & is not known to have been in London, this suggestion seems unlikely, but --pending further research-- not impossible.
(In 1990 Joan S. Guilford prepared an unreliable account of George Allen which ascribed to him 15 children, some of whom were actually his grandchildren & others of whom were not related at all.)
Source: Anderson's Great Migration Study Project∼The dates and places of Katherine's purported birth and death, purported date of marriage, and below named children are per the original creator of this memorial. They are subject to considerable revision after careful review of all known historical facts by the current maintainer of this memorial with details to follow. The claim also by the original creator of this memorial that Katherine is buried in Spring Hill Cemetery in Sandwich is a mere guess unsubstantiated by any known record.
The claim that a George Allen, who purportedly married Katherine Starkes in London in 1624, are one and the same as George Allen and his wife Katherine of Sandwich, Mass. is unproved. Such identical identity was a mere suggestion by John Kermott Allen in 1924, which Allen did not believe as proven evidence. This marriage was more recently commented on by Anderson as unlikely evidence in the biographical sketch of George Allen of Sandwich, Mass. in the Great Migration Study Project of the NEHGS (initially Volumes 1-3 of the Great Migration Begins series). For the interested reader, see pp. 3-6 of George Allen of Weymouth, Mass., 1635... available online at https://archive.org/details/georgeallenofwey00alle.
Also see Vol. 1:28 of the Great Migration Study Project of the NEHGS, available online to its members, specifically to 1:28 and 1:30.
In fact, as published by J. K. Allen in 1924 referring to Marriage Licences by the Bishop of London (1611-1828, p. 146), Allen changed the typed maiden name of the intended bride, Katherine "Slarks" to Starks, with the actual recorded marriage record handwritten as "Katherin Slarkes", not Starkes. Thus, in 1624 a George Allen then of London married a Katherine Slarks or Slarkes, not Starkes.
Katherin Starkes, not Slarkes. The scribe often omitted the cross of the t throughout the document, such as 3 lines below for the Fletcher entry, where County is spelled without crossing the t. Also all letters were pronounced, so Starkie and Starkey are homonyms. This name derives from the Medieval English "Stark" itself coming from the Olde English pre 7th Century "stearc" meaning "firm and unyielding". The name was originally given as a nickname to a strong determined person and is first recorded in the early half of the 13th Century.
Based on the above references claiming that Katherine (---)(Allen) Collins was one and the same person as the Katherine who married a George Allen in London in 1624 only serves to perpetuate unproven genealogy.
----------
By the original creator of this memorial:
Parents are unknown. She married George Allen on Nov. 5, 1624 at All Hollows in Honey Lane, London, England. They had the first two children in England and the remaining ones in America.
William Allen-circa 1627-1 Oct 1705.
Matthew Allen-circa 1629-15 May 1695.
Robert Allen, circa 1633-May 15, 1661.
Henry Allen-circa 1637-1690.
Samuel Allen-circa 1640.
Gideon Allen-circa 1645-1693.
Katherine Starkes husband, George Allen that was the son of Richard Allen of the Tower of London, who was still residing in London, England as late as 1640, when he was mentioned in his brother, Henry's, will. This George Allen is also believed to be the same George Allen who died at St. Michael Queenhithe, London on 26 March 1664.
Thanks to the The Records of London's Livery Companies Online = http://www.londonroll.org/ I was able to find some tidbits that help confirm the fact that George Allen the clothmaker was a totally different George than the one who immigrated to Mass.
1. Henricus Allen - London - New apprentice, son of Rici - Monnyer - Turri London, London. Jozeph Ussher - Master Co Clothworker. Start Date: 25/07/1610 Apprentice Bond Length: 10 years.
2. Georgius Allen - London - New apprentice, Son of Rici Allen Monnyer - Turrim London, London. Jozeph Ussher - Master Co Clothworker. Start Date: 30/09/1613 Apprentice Bond Length: 9 years.
3. Georg Allen - New freeman Co Clothworker, Jozeph Usher - Master Co Clothworker, 1620.
4. George Allen the Elder Sheeremaker - Queenehithe Master Co Clothworker, William Johnson - London - New apprentice - Start Date: 11/02/1658.
The age of apprenticeship was usually 14-21. So this would give George Allen, clothworker a birth date of about 1598, which would make him about 26 when he married Katherine Slarks. Since George Allen the clothworker from Queenhithe, London was busy still being a clothworker in 1658, he could not have been the George Allen who traveled to America with Rev John Hull since he died in the year 1648.
So if you would not mind having the photos of the marriage record removed to avoid further confusion.
Source: Great Migration Study Project
George Allen married (2) by 1627, Katherine ____ (assuming that William was her oldest Allen child).
They had five children: William, Mathew, Henry, Samuel, & Gideon.
She married (2) by 1656, John Collins of Boston. On 27 Jul 1670, Gideon Allen was granted administration on the estate of "John Collins late of Boston deceased." (John K. Allen noted the marriage in London on 5 Nov 1624 of "George Allen of London, Clothworker, and Katherine Starkes of Woking," Surrey & noted that this was a good chronological fit for the New England couple. Since George Allen was very likely from Somerset, & is not known to have been in London, this suggestion seems unlikely, but --pending further research-- not impossible.
(In 1990 Joan S. Guilford prepared an unreliable account of George Allen which ascribed to him 15 children, some of whom were actually his grandchildren & others of whom were not related at all.)
Source: Anderson's Great Migration Study Project∼The dates and places of Katherine's purported birth and death, purported date of marriage, and below named children are per the original creator of this memorial. They are subject to considerable revision after careful review of all known historical facts by the current maintainer of this memorial with details to follow. The claim also by the original creator of this memorial that Katherine is buried in Spring Hill Cemetery in Sandwich is a mere guess unsubstantiated by any known record.
The claim that a George Allen, who purportedly married Katherine Starkes in London in 1624, are one and the same as George Allen and his wife Katherine of Sandwich, Mass. is unproved. Such identical identity was a mere suggestion by John Kermott Allen in 1924, which Allen did not believe as proven evidence. This marriage was more recently commented on by Anderson as unlikely evidence in the biographical sketch of George Allen of Sandwich, Mass. in the Great Migration Study Project of the NEHGS (initially Volumes 1-3 of the Great Migration Begins series). For the interested reader, see pp. 3-6 of George Allen of Weymouth, Mass., 1635... available online at https://archive.org/details/georgeallenofwey00alle.
Also see Vol. 1:28 of the Great Migration Study Project of the NEHGS, available online to its members, specifically to 1:28 and 1:30.
In fact, as published by J. K. Allen in 1924 referring to Marriage Licences by the Bishop of London (1611-1828, p. 146), Allen changed the typed maiden name of the intended bride, Katherine "Slarks" to Starks, with the actual recorded marriage record handwritten as "Katherin Slarkes", not Starkes. Thus, in 1624 a George Allen then of London married a Katherine Slarks or Slarkes, not Starkes.
Katherin Starkes, not Slarkes. The scribe often omitted the cross of the t throughout the document, such as 3 lines below for the Fletcher entry, where County is spelled without crossing the t. Also all letters were pronounced, so Starkie and Starkey are homonyms. This name derives from the Medieval English "Stark" itself coming from the Olde English pre 7th Century "stearc" meaning "firm and unyielding". The name was originally given as a nickname to a strong determined person and is first recorded in the early half of the 13th Century.
Based on the above references claiming that Katherine (---)(Allen) Collins was one and the same person as the Katherine who married a George Allen in London in 1624 only serves to perpetuate unproven genealogy.
----------
By the original creator of this memorial:
Parents are unknown. She married George Allen on Nov. 5, 1624 at All Hollows in Honey Lane, London, England. They had the first two children in England and the remaining ones in America.
William Allen-circa 1627-1 Oct 1705.
Matthew Allen-circa 1629-15 May 1695.
Robert Allen, circa 1633-May 15, 1661.
Henry Allen-circa 1637-1690.
Samuel Allen-circa 1640.
Gideon Allen-circa 1645-1693.
Katherine Starkes husband, George Allen that was the son of Richard Allen of the Tower of London, who was still residing in London, England as late as 1640, when he was mentioned in his brother, Henry's, will. This George Allen is also believed to be the same George Allen who died at St. Michael Queenhithe, London on 26 March 1664.
Thanks to the The Records of London's Livery Companies Online = http://www.londonroll.org/ I was able to find some tidbits that help confirm the fact that George Allen the clothmaker was a totally different George than the one who immigrated to Mass.
1. Henricus Allen - London - New apprentice, son of Rici - Monnyer - Turri London, London. Jozeph Ussher - Master Co Clothworker. Start Date: 25/07/1610 Apprentice Bond Length: 10 years.
2. Georgius Allen - London - New apprentice, Son of Rici Allen Monnyer - Turrim London, London. Jozeph Ussher - Master Co Clothworker. Start Date: 30/09/1613 Apprentice Bond Length: 9 years.
3. Georg Allen - New freeman Co Clothworker, Jozeph Usher - Master Co Clothworker, 1620.
4. George Allen the Elder Sheeremaker - Queenehithe Master Co Clothworker, William Johnson - London - New apprentice - Start Date: 11/02/1658.
The age of apprenticeship was usually 14-21. So this would give George Allen, clothworker a birth date of about 1598, which would make him about 26 when he married Katherine Slarks. Since George Allen the clothworker from Queenhithe, London was busy still being a clothworker in 1658, he could not have been the George Allen who traveled to America with Rev John Hull since he died in the year 1648.
So if you would not mind having the photos of the marriage record removed to avoid further confusion.
Source: Great Migration Study Project
They had five children: William, Mathew, Henry, Samuel, & Gideon.
She married (2) by 1656, John Collins of Boston. On 27 Jul 1670, Gideon Allen was granted administration on the estate of "John Collins late of Boston deceased." (John K. Allen noted the marriage in London on 5 Nov 1624 of "George Allen of London, Clothworker, and Katherine Starkes of Woking," Surrey & noted that this was a good chronological fit for the New England couple. Since George Allen was very likely from Somerset, & is not known to have been in London, this suggestion seems unlikely, but --pending further research-- not impossible.
(In 1990 Joan S. Guilford prepared an unreliable account of George Allen which ascribed to him 15 children, some of whom were actually his grandchildren & others of whom were not related at all.)
Source: Anderson's Great Migration Study Project∼The dates and places of Katherine's purported birth and death, purported date of marriage, and below named children are per the original creator of this memorial. They are subject to considerable revision after careful review of all known historical facts by the current maintainer of this memorial with details to follow. The claim also by the original creator of this memorial that Katherine is buried in Spring Hill Cemetery in Sandwich is a mere guess unsubstantiated by any known record.
The claim that a George Allen, who purportedly married Katherine Starkes in London in 1624, are one and the same as George Allen and his wife Katherine of Sandwich, Mass. is unproved. Such identical identity was a mere suggestion by John Kermott Allen in 1924, which Allen did not believe as proven evidence. This marriage was more recently commented on by Anderson as unlikely evidence in the biographical sketch of George Allen of Sandwich, Mass. in the Great Migration Study Project of the NEHGS (initially Volumes 1-3 of the Great Migration Begins series). For the interested reader, see pp. 3-6 of George Allen of Weymouth, Mass., 1635... available online at https://archive.org/details/georgeallenofwey00alle.
Also see Vol. 1:28 of the Great Migration Study Project of the NEHGS, available online to its members, specifically to 1:28 and 1:30.
In fact, as published by J. K. Allen in 1924 referring to Marriage Licences by the Bishop of London (1611-1828, p. 146), Allen changed the typed maiden name of the intended bride, Katherine "Slarks" to Starks, with the actual recorded marriage record handwritten as "Katherin Slarkes", not Starkes. Thus, in 1624 a George Allen then of London married a Katherine Slarks or Slarkes, not Starkes.
Katherin Starkes, not Slarkes. The scribe often omitted the cross of the t throughout the document, such as 3 lines below for the Fletcher entry, where County is spelled without crossing the t. Also all letters were pronounced, so Starkie and Starkey are homonyms. This name derives from the Medieval English "Stark" itself coming from the Olde English pre 7th Century "stearc" meaning "firm and unyielding". The name was originally given as a nickname to a strong determined person and is first recorded in the early half of the 13th Century.
Based on the above references claiming that Katherine (---)(Allen) Collins was one and the same person as the Katherine who married a George Allen in London in 1624 only serves to perpetuate unproven genealogy.
----------
By the original creator of this memorial:
Parents are unknown. She married George Allen on Nov. 5, 1624 at All Hollows in Honey Lane, London, England. They had the first two children in England and the remaining ones in America.
William Allen-circa 1627-1 Oct 1705.
Matthew Allen-circa 1629-15 May 1695.
Robert Allen, circa 1633-May 15, 1661.
Henry Allen-circa 1637-1690.
Samuel Allen-circa 1640.
Gideon Allen-circa 1645-1693.
Katherine Starkes husband, George Allen that was the son of Richard Allen of the Tower of London, who was still residing in London, England as late as 1640, when he was mentioned in his brother, Henry's, will. This George Allen is also believed to be the same George Allen who died at St. Michael Queenhithe, London on 26 March 1664.
Thanks to the The Records of London's Livery Companies Online = http://www.londonroll.org/ I was able to find some tidbits that help confirm the fact that George Allen the clothmaker was a totally different George than the one who immigrated to Mass.
1. Henricus Allen - London - New apprentice, son of Rici - Monnyer - Turri London, London. Jozeph Ussher - Master Co Clothworker. Start Date: 25/07/1610 Apprentice Bond Length: 10 years.
2. Georgius Allen - London - New apprentice, Son of Rici Allen Monnyer - Turrim London, London. Jozeph Ussher - Master Co Clothworker. Start Date: 30/09/1613 Apprentice Bond Length: 9 years.
3. Georg Allen - New freeman Co Clothworker, Jozeph Usher - Master Co Clothworker, 1620.
4. George Allen the Elder Sheeremaker - Queenehithe Master Co Clothworker, William Johnson - London - New apprentice - Start Date: 11/02/1658.
The age of apprenticeship was usually 14-21. So this would give George Allen, clothworker a birth date of about 1598, which would make him about 26 when he married Katherine Slarks. Since George Allen the clothworker from Queenhithe, London was busy still being a clothworker in 1658, he could not have been the George Allen who traveled to America with Rev John Hull since he died in the year 1648.
So if you would not mind having the photos of the marriage record removed to avoid further confusion.
Source: Great Migration Study Project
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