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Thomas Thayer III

Birth
Braintree, Norfolk County, Massachusetts, USA
Death
6 Dec 1705 (aged 52–53)
Braintree, Norfolk County, Massachusetts, USA
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I was unable to find the burial site for Thomas, however it's probably in the Elm Street Cemetery in Braintree where his wife Abigail Veazie Thayer and their 2 sons are buried.

He married Abigail Veazie, daughter of William Veazie and Elinor Tompson, on 25 Mar 1680 at Braintree, Norfolk, Massachusetts.

He died on December 7, 1705 despondent over the deaths of his 2 sons in their early 20s a few months before.

UPDATE 2024, FEB. His death date of 1705 is over a decade before the very first burial at what is now Elm, that of the first wife of Rev. Samuel Niles, "Elizabeth Thacher", noted as 1719, new calendar, would have been 1718 old calendar.
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If he was of those Thayers off to Mendon (then in the same Mother County as Braintree, now in daughter county Worcester), he may have died there before his wife returned.

More likely, if he instead stayed in what became Norfolk County , he'd be buried at Hancock Cem., in the former first or north precinct of old Braintree. That precinct is now the Boston suburb of Quincy, more or less. Wife Abigail's earlier family is at Hancock, Elinor Tompson as a French (once widowed, she remarried to the John French d.1692, his first wife Mrs Grace French with stone d. 1680 still stands ). They were strongly connected to the church outside the the first precinct's cemetery, originally religiously integrated, much later turned Unitarian, a declaration of that denomination then driving out others trinitarian. While still integrated, its first minister was Wm Tompson, father of Elinor.

Wm Thompson's name was on a specially saved list of "signers of the Covenant" at Dorchester. That was from the special day marking Dorchester's 1636 "grand opening" (really a re-opening). Pro-education minister Richard Mather was newly arrived and in charge. Elders and their wives and some old parishioners/congregants, such as a known mill-operator, were first to sign after Mather.

Ministers signing, like Thompson and Rev. Samuel Newman, were waiting for future daughter congregations to open, theirs to be Braintree and Taunton. They would be trained by extra-well-educated Mather while they waited. Mather was said to have five sons, four of them ministers, maybe of varying quality, some to open daughter churches.

No one named Veazie/Veasey or French was a Dorchester covenant signer in 1636. That would be consistent with still being among the numerous "worker bees" of Gov. Winthrop and his corporation's businesses. Many were indentured.

Under Winthrop's "freemen" experiment in local democracy, with only one authorized church per town, at first, everyone to share. There was no right to vote in town elections granted until (a) a member in good standing of the town's church (landowner not required) and (b) the town was authorized and had already built its church structure.

The church structure was to double as a town hall, making it a "meeting house". The early Dorchester one was, definitely, also an armory. Storing gunpowder in a large quantity in any home was too dangerous. The real danger was then proven at the early church. Of record as "accidentally burning", it was strongly hinted that the aging minister allowed fire to reach the powder (pre-Mather, with Rev. Maverick instead present).

Pre-Mather and post-Mather details are in an old book, published and re-published, in Boston, 1851-1859, on the "History of the Town of Dorchester", its signing committee member and major author E. Clapp, aka Ebenezer Clapp Jr. (The book was thorough, in as many parts as possible, given "accidental burning" was cited several times as the reason why some town land deeds and maps and early church-made records, pre-Mather, made over two hundred years earlier, were missing. Discussion of early explorations, evidence the French were trading at Dorchester earlier, pre-British, are all excellent, interesting that Capt Smith of Virginia became confused and made the Charles River seem more important.)

Th old book noted that, while the Dorchester church was always near Boston, the distant bounds of Dorchester had been HIGHLY VARYING. At one point, "The size of the town of Dorchester can be imagined when we find that it extended from Dorchester Point (now South Boston Point), over against the Castle (now Fort Independence), to within 160 rods of the line of Rhode Island ".

Thus, "from Braintree" and "from Dorchester", need not be contradictory.

Searching for "pox" finds people and dates affected by new rounds of small pox.

His wife died in a time with lots of pox, innoculation tried first in Boston, many forbidding that. On p.289-290, "calculated that in Boston and the neighboring towns, 5759 persons had the small pox in the natural way during the year 1721 and the beginning of 1722, and that 844 died.

"...Inoculation of small pox was this year introduced into the vicinity of Boston by Dr. Zabdiel Boylston, ...Cotton Mather favored its trial and had faith in its efficacy. [However] Nearly all the physicians, as well as most of the clergy... the Selectmen of Boston forbade it. Notwithstanding this strong opposition,.. utility of the practice was soon established beyond dispute, and was continued until Dr. Jenner's discovery of the milder preventive, vaccination."

JB, Feb. 2024 Try "Internet Archive" for copies of old books, as libraries let volunteers make copies, archive.org has multiple formats, google's books has done lots of digitizing and shows one page at a time, hathitrust.org and bartleby.com are also volunteer-staffed with books or summaries.
I was unable to find the burial site for Thomas, however it's probably in the Elm Street Cemetery in Braintree where his wife Abigail Veazie Thayer and their 2 sons are buried.

He married Abigail Veazie, daughter of William Veazie and Elinor Tompson, on 25 Mar 1680 at Braintree, Norfolk, Massachusetts.

He died on December 7, 1705 despondent over the deaths of his 2 sons in their early 20s a few months before.

UPDATE 2024, FEB. His death date of 1705 is over a decade before the very first burial at what is now Elm, that of the first wife of Rev. Samuel Niles, "Elizabeth Thacher", noted as 1719, new calendar, would have been 1718 old calendar.
.
If he was of those Thayers off to Mendon (then in the same Mother County as Braintree, now in daughter county Worcester), he may have died there before his wife returned.

More likely, if he instead stayed in what became Norfolk County , he'd be buried at Hancock Cem., in the former first or north precinct of old Braintree. That precinct is now the Boston suburb of Quincy, more or less. Wife Abigail's earlier family is at Hancock, Elinor Tompson as a French (once widowed, she remarried to the John French d.1692, his first wife Mrs Grace French with stone d. 1680 still stands ). They were strongly connected to the church outside the the first precinct's cemetery, originally religiously integrated, much later turned Unitarian, a declaration of that denomination then driving out others trinitarian. While still integrated, its first minister was Wm Tompson, father of Elinor.

Wm Thompson's name was on a specially saved list of "signers of the Covenant" at Dorchester. That was from the special day marking Dorchester's 1636 "grand opening" (really a re-opening). Pro-education minister Richard Mather was newly arrived and in charge. Elders and their wives and some old parishioners/congregants, such as a known mill-operator, were first to sign after Mather.

Ministers signing, like Thompson and Rev. Samuel Newman, were waiting for future daughter congregations to open, theirs to be Braintree and Taunton. They would be trained by extra-well-educated Mather while they waited. Mather was said to have five sons, four of them ministers, maybe of varying quality, some to open daughter churches.

No one named Veazie/Veasey or French was a Dorchester covenant signer in 1636. That would be consistent with still being among the numerous "worker bees" of Gov. Winthrop and his corporation's businesses. Many were indentured.

Under Winthrop's "freemen" experiment in local democracy, with only one authorized church per town, at first, everyone to share. There was no right to vote in town elections granted until (a) a member in good standing of the town's church (landowner not required) and (b) the town was authorized and had already built its church structure.

The church structure was to double as a town hall, making it a "meeting house". The early Dorchester one was, definitely, also an armory. Storing gunpowder in a large quantity in any home was too dangerous. The real danger was then proven at the early church. Of record as "accidentally burning", it was strongly hinted that the aging minister allowed fire to reach the powder (pre-Mather, with Rev. Maverick instead present).

Pre-Mather and post-Mather details are in an old book, published and re-published, in Boston, 1851-1859, on the "History of the Town of Dorchester", its signing committee member and major author E. Clapp, aka Ebenezer Clapp Jr. (The book was thorough, in as many parts as possible, given "accidental burning" was cited several times as the reason why some town land deeds and maps and early church-made records, pre-Mather, made over two hundred years earlier, were missing. Discussion of early explorations, evidence the French were trading at Dorchester earlier, pre-British, are all excellent, interesting that Capt Smith of Virginia became confused and made the Charles River seem more important.)

Th old book noted that, while the Dorchester church was always near Boston, the distant bounds of Dorchester had been HIGHLY VARYING. At one point, "The size of the town of Dorchester can be imagined when we find that it extended from Dorchester Point (now South Boston Point), over against the Castle (now Fort Independence), to within 160 rods of the line of Rhode Island ".

Thus, "from Braintree" and "from Dorchester", need not be contradictory.

Searching for "pox" finds people and dates affected by new rounds of small pox.

His wife died in a time with lots of pox, innoculation tried first in Boston, many forbidding that. On p.289-290, "calculated that in Boston and the neighboring towns, 5759 persons had the small pox in the natural way during the year 1721 and the beginning of 1722, and that 844 died.

"...Inoculation of small pox was this year introduced into the vicinity of Boston by Dr. Zabdiel Boylston, ...Cotton Mather favored its trial and had faith in its efficacy. [However] Nearly all the physicians, as well as most of the clergy... the Selectmen of Boston forbade it. Notwithstanding this strong opposition,.. utility of the practice was soon established beyond dispute, and was continued until Dr. Jenner's discovery of the milder preventive, vaccination."

JB, Feb. 2024 Try "Internet Archive" for copies of old books, as libraries let volunteers make copies, archive.org has multiple formats, google's books has done lots of digitizing and shows one page at a time, hathitrust.org and bartleby.com are also volunteer-staffed with books or summaries.


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