Richard Aubrey was my 5 x great grandfather on my father's side. I do not have a birth or baptism record but according to FindMyPast the Glamorgan Monumental Inscription Index has his birth year as 1727. He married Anne John on 8 September 1759 at Llangynwyd. He was buried at St Curig's on 15 April 1784.
By Anne John he had 7 children baptized at Llangynwyd, namely Richard, Catherine, William (father of my ancestor Margaret Aubrey), Thomas, Morgan and 2 Johns, one who died aged 4 in 1774 and the other born 1775. At some stage they moved to Porthkerry since the records show them there. Porthkerry is close to the coast and either by sea or by land Bristol is no great distance away. My ancestor Margaret Aubrey married David Lewis in Bristol but the 1841 census does say she was born in Glamorgan. The only baptism record I can find for her in Glamorgan which gives the right age at death, 47, is on 24 December 1797 at Porthkerry, daughter of William and his wife Ann nee Evans. Her father William, who was living in Barry when he died and was buried in Porthkerry in 1819, had been a farmer according to the baptism records of several of his children. He may (or may not) have been the same William Aubrey who had an earlier marriage to a Mary Lewis in Llantrithyd who presumably died before he married Margaret's mother in 1797 and who was a churchwarden at St Illtyd's Llantrithyd in 1799. We know his brother Morgan Aubrey was a churchwarden there in 1805. A family owning land in Glamorgan might well have chosen to live in Bristol for part or all of the time if they had trading or social interests there.
So far so good but where did Richard Aubrey come from? The first place to look was Llangynwyd where there is more than one Aubrey family. I found in FreeReg a William Aubrey who marries a Catherine Philip in Llangynwydd on 30 October 1756 and has these children baptized there:
Thomas 16 January 1757.
William 27 July 1759.
Mary 2 April 1762.
Lewis 12 July 1764
Charles 23 April 1767.
Going back further an Ann Aubrey was baptized in Llangynwyd on 9 February 1724, father Thomas mother Elinor. An Elinor Aubrey, who may be the mother or another child, no age given, is buried there on 6 June 1729. Earlier than that I can find no Aubrey records in Llangynwyd in FreeReg or FamilySearch, and most frustratingly there is no record of a Richard Aubrey. The absence of child baptism records could be explained if the Aubreys were Welsh Baptists and the fact that Richard was married at the Calfaria Baptist Church the same day as his marriage in the parish church indicates that he at least was a practising Baptist. His own children were baptized, presumably at his wife's request/insistence.
There are Aubreys recorded in Llangyfelach, (Joan baptized 20 October 1728 and Richard baptized 31 March 1734, both of whose father was Thomas). There are also several Aubreys in nearby Llangiwg including a Richard baptized 20 August 1710, father William, Both Llangyfelach and Llangiwg are close to Swansea but 23 odd miles by road from Llangynwyd. Richard Aubrey might well have come from either and moved though I should note that a Richard Aubrey married a Jane Lloyd in Llangyfelach on 12 July 1760 (FreeReg). If this is the Richard Aubrey who was baptized in Llangyfelach in 1734 it rather puts him out of the running to be the one who married in Llangynwyd in 1759!.
Finally I have two other possible candidates. There is a record in FamilySearch of a Richard Awbrey baptized at St Illtyd, Llantwit Juxta Neath on 26 July 1724, father Richard. There is another record in FamilySearch of a Richard Aubrey baptized on 7 January 1723 in Hay, Brecknockshire. No parents' names are given.
On the whole I think it likeliest that Richard Aubrey was born in Llangynwyd but as yet that can only be a working assumption and without more information I cannot really get any further back at present.
My father Douglas Aubrey Owen believed that we were related to the famous Aubrey family of Llantrithyd. The Aubrey family inherited lands in Llantrithyd (Glamorgan) when Sir Thomas Aubrey, second son of Dr William Aubrey married Mary, daughter and co-heiress of Anthony Mansel of Llantrithyd in 1586. Sir Thomas's second son, Sir John Aubrey, a strong Royalist was created baronet in 1660. The 17th century Antiquarian and writer John Aubrey, author of Brief Lives, was related to this family. He was a great grandson of Dr William Aubrey. I don't think Daddy had any evidence of relationship other than the fact that the Owens had preserved Aubrey as a family name down the generations. The one thing I can say with total certainty is that if there is a connection to the Aubreys who were Baronets then it is not a legitimate one because if Richard Aubrey had been a legitimate descendant his male heirs, of whom there were very many, would have had a claim to the Baronetcy when it was extinguished in 1856 with the death of Sir Thomas Digby Aubrey. Richard Aubrey may have been illegitimate but if so he was more likely to be the illegitimate son of a female Aubrey. It was very rare for male bastards to be acknowledged with the father's name precisely because that could cast doubt on the line of descent. So if there is a legitimate connection to the Aubreys of Llantrithyd it is likely to go much further back to the family's earliest origins which were in Abercynrig in Breconshire (or Abercynfrig as it is written in most of the old genealogies). The Aubreys, variously found as Awbrey, Aubray or Albery, and derived from the Norman De Alberico, can be traced back to the Norman Conquest. The Normans reached Wales in the late 11th century when Bernard De Newmarche invaded Breconshire. Sir Reginald Awbery was one of Bernard De Newmarche’s chief men, and got as his reward the lands of Abercynrig and Slwch. There is plenty of scope for a Norman family established in Wales in the 11th century to have spread far and wide over the centuries from then to the marriage of Richard Aubrey to Ann John in 1759. There are also numerous examples of the use of Richard as a first name amongst various branches of the Aubrey family. In short if I cannot prove that we have the same ancestors as Dr. William Aubrey, John Aubrey and the Aubreys of Llantrithyd I certainly cannot disprove it either so my father might have been more right than he knew after all!.
By Anne John he had 7 children baptized at Llangynwyd, namely Richard, Catherine, William (father of my ancestor Margaret Aubrey), Thomas, Morgan and 2 Johns, one who died aged 4 in 1774 and the other born 1775. At some stage they moved to Porthkerry since the records show them there. Porthkerry is close to the coast and either by sea or by land Bristol is no great distance away. My ancestor Margaret Aubrey married David Lewis in Bristol but the 1841 census does say she was born in Glamorgan. The only baptism record I can find for her in Glamorgan which gives the right age at death, 47, is on 24 December 1797 at Porthkerry, daughter of William and his wife Ann nee Evans. Her father William, who was living in Barry when he died and was buried in Porthkerry in 1819, had been a farmer according to the baptism records of several of his children. He may (or may not) have been the same William Aubrey who had an earlier marriage to a Mary Lewis in Llantrithyd who presumably died before he married Margaret's mother in 1797 and who was a churchwarden at St Illtyd's Llantrithyd in 1799. We know his brother Morgan Aubrey was a churchwarden there in 1805. A family owning land in Glamorgan might well have chosen to live in Bristol for part or all of the time if they had trading or social interests there.
So far so good but where did Richard Aubrey come from? The first place to look was Llangynwyd where there is more than one Aubrey family. I found in FreeReg a William Aubrey who marries a Catherine Philip in Llangynwydd on 30 October 1756 and has these children baptized there:
Thomas 16 January 1757.
William 27 July 1759.
Mary 2 April 1762.
Lewis 12 July 1764
Charles 23 April 1767.
Going back further an Ann Aubrey was baptized in Llangynwyd on 9 February 1724, father Thomas mother Elinor. An Elinor Aubrey, who may be the mother or another child, no age given, is buried there on 6 June 1729. Earlier than that I can find no Aubrey records in Llangynwyd in FreeReg or FamilySearch, and most frustratingly there is no record of a Richard Aubrey. The absence of child baptism records could be explained if the Aubreys were Welsh Baptists and the fact that Richard was married at the Calfaria Baptist Church the same day as his marriage in the parish church indicates that he at least was a practising Baptist. His own children were baptized, presumably at his wife's request/insistence.
There are Aubreys recorded in Llangyfelach, (Joan baptized 20 October 1728 and Richard baptized 31 March 1734, both of whose father was Thomas). There are also several Aubreys in nearby Llangiwg including a Richard baptized 20 August 1710, father William, Both Llangyfelach and Llangiwg are close to Swansea but 23 odd miles by road from Llangynwyd. Richard Aubrey might well have come from either and moved though I should note that a Richard Aubrey married a Jane Lloyd in Llangyfelach on 12 July 1760 (FreeReg). If this is the Richard Aubrey who was baptized in Llangyfelach in 1734 it rather puts him out of the running to be the one who married in Llangynwyd in 1759!.
Finally I have two other possible candidates. There is a record in FamilySearch of a Richard Awbrey baptized at St Illtyd, Llantwit Juxta Neath on 26 July 1724, father Richard. There is another record in FamilySearch of a Richard Aubrey baptized on 7 January 1723 in Hay, Brecknockshire. No parents' names are given.
On the whole I think it likeliest that Richard Aubrey was born in Llangynwyd but as yet that can only be a working assumption and without more information I cannot really get any further back at present.
My father Douglas Aubrey Owen believed that we were related to the famous Aubrey family of Llantrithyd. The Aubrey family inherited lands in Llantrithyd (Glamorgan) when Sir Thomas Aubrey, second son of Dr William Aubrey married Mary, daughter and co-heiress of Anthony Mansel of Llantrithyd in 1586. Sir Thomas's second son, Sir John Aubrey, a strong Royalist was created baronet in 1660. The 17th century Antiquarian and writer John Aubrey, author of Brief Lives, was related to this family. He was a great grandson of Dr William Aubrey. I don't think Daddy had any evidence of relationship other than the fact that the Owens had preserved Aubrey as a family name down the generations. The one thing I can say with total certainty is that if there is a connection to the Aubreys who were Baronets then it is not a legitimate one because if Richard Aubrey had been a legitimate descendant his male heirs, of whom there were very many, would have had a claim to the Baronetcy when it was extinguished in 1856 with the death of Sir Thomas Digby Aubrey. Richard Aubrey may have been illegitimate but if so he was more likely to be the illegitimate son of a female Aubrey. It was very rare for male bastards to be acknowledged with the father's name precisely because that could cast doubt on the line of descent. So if there is a legitimate connection to the Aubreys of Llantrithyd it is likely to go much further back to the family's earliest origins which were in Abercynrig in Breconshire (or Abercynfrig as it is written in most of the old genealogies). The Aubreys, variously found as Awbrey, Aubray or Albery, and derived from the Norman De Alberico, can be traced back to the Norman Conquest. The Normans reached Wales in the late 11th century when Bernard De Newmarche invaded Breconshire. Sir Reginald Awbery was one of Bernard De Newmarche’s chief men, and got as his reward the lands of Abercynrig and Slwch. There is plenty of scope for a Norman family established in Wales in the 11th century to have spread far and wide over the centuries from then to the marriage of Richard Aubrey to Ann John in 1759. There are also numerous examples of the use of Richard as a first name amongst various branches of the Aubrey family. In short if I cannot prove that we have the same ancestors as Dr. William Aubrey, John Aubrey and the Aubreys of Llantrithyd I certainly cannot disprove it either so my father might have been more right than he knew after all!.
Richard Aubrey was my 5 x great grandfather on my father's side. I do not have a birth or baptism record but according to FindMyPast the Glamorgan Monumental Inscription Index has his birth year as 1727. He married Anne John on 8 September 1759 at Llangynwyd. He was buried at St Curig's on 15 April 1784.
By Anne John he had 7 children baptized at Llangynwyd, namely Richard, Catherine, William (father of my ancestor Margaret Aubrey), Thomas, Morgan and 2 Johns, one who died aged 4 in 1774 and the other born 1775. At some stage they moved to Porthkerry since the records show them there. Porthkerry is close to the coast and either by sea or by land Bristol is no great distance away. My ancestor Margaret Aubrey married David Lewis in Bristol but the 1841 census does say she was born in Glamorgan. The only baptism record I can find for her in Glamorgan which gives the right age at death, 47, is on 24 December 1797 at Porthkerry, daughter of William and his wife Ann nee Evans. Her father William, who was living in Barry when he died and was buried in Porthkerry in 1819, had been a farmer according to the baptism records of several of his children. He may (or may not) have been the same William Aubrey who had an earlier marriage to a Mary Lewis in Llantrithyd who presumably died before he married Margaret's mother in 1797 and who was a churchwarden at St Illtyd's Llantrithyd in 1799. We know his brother Morgan Aubrey was a churchwarden there in 1805. A family owning land in Glamorgan might well have chosen to live in Bristol for part or all of the time if they had trading or social interests there.
So far so good but where did Richard Aubrey come from? The first place to look was Llangynwyd where there is more than one Aubrey family. I found in FreeReg a William Aubrey who marries a Catherine Philip in Llangynwydd on 30 October 1756 and has these children baptized there:
Thomas 16 January 1757.
William 27 July 1759.
Mary 2 April 1762.
Lewis 12 July 1764
Charles 23 April 1767.
Going back further an Ann Aubrey was baptized in Llangynwyd on 9 February 1724, father Thomas mother Elinor. An Elinor Aubrey, who may be the mother or another child, no age given, is buried there on 6 June 1729. Earlier than that I can find no Aubrey records in Llangynwyd in FreeReg or FamilySearch, and most frustratingly there is no record of a Richard Aubrey. The absence of child baptism records could be explained if the Aubreys were Welsh Baptists and the fact that Richard was married at the Calfaria Baptist Church the same day as his marriage in the parish church indicates that he at least was a practising Baptist. His own children were baptized, presumably at his wife's request/insistence.
There are Aubreys recorded in Llangyfelach, (Joan baptized 20 October 1728 and Richard baptized 31 March 1734, both of whose father was Thomas). There are also several Aubreys in nearby Llangiwg including a Richard baptized 20 August 1710, father William, Both Llangyfelach and Llangiwg are close to Swansea but 23 odd miles by road from Llangynwyd. Richard Aubrey might well have come from either and moved though I should note that a Richard Aubrey married a Jane Lloyd in Llangyfelach on 12 July 1760 (FreeReg). If this is the Richard Aubrey who was baptized in Llangyfelach in 1734 it rather puts him out of the running to be the one who married in Llangynwyd in 1759!.
Finally I have two other possible candidates. There is a record in FamilySearch of a Richard Awbrey baptized at St Illtyd, Llantwit Juxta Neath on 26 July 1724, father Richard. There is another record in FamilySearch of a Richard Aubrey baptized on 7 January 1723 in Hay, Brecknockshire. No parents' names are given.
On the whole I think it likeliest that Richard Aubrey was born in Llangynwyd but as yet that can only be a working assumption and without more information I cannot really get any further back at present.
My father Douglas Aubrey Owen believed that we were related to the famous Aubrey family of Llantrithyd. The Aubrey family inherited lands in Llantrithyd (Glamorgan) when Sir Thomas Aubrey, second son of Dr William Aubrey married Mary, daughter and co-heiress of Anthony Mansel of Llantrithyd in 1586. Sir Thomas's second son, Sir John Aubrey, a strong Royalist was created baronet in 1660. The 17th century Antiquarian and writer John Aubrey, author of Brief Lives, was related to this family. He was a great grandson of Dr William Aubrey. I don't think Daddy had any evidence of relationship other than the fact that the Owens had preserved Aubrey as a family name down the generations. The one thing I can say with total certainty is that if there is a connection to the Aubreys who were Baronets then it is not a legitimate one because if Richard Aubrey had been a legitimate descendant his male heirs, of whom there were very many, would have had a claim to the Baronetcy when it was extinguished in 1856 with the death of Sir Thomas Digby Aubrey. Richard Aubrey may have been illegitimate but if so he was more likely to be the illegitimate son of a female Aubrey. It was very rare for male bastards to be acknowledged with the father's name precisely because that could cast doubt on the line of descent. So if there is a legitimate connection to the Aubreys of Llantrithyd it is likely to go much further back to the family's earliest origins which were in Abercynrig in Breconshire (or Abercynfrig as it is written in most of the old genealogies). The Aubreys, variously found as Awbrey, Aubray or Albery, and derived from the Norman De Alberico, can be traced back to the Norman Conquest. The Normans reached Wales in the late 11th century when Bernard De Newmarche invaded Breconshire. Sir Reginald Awbery was one of Bernard De Newmarche’s chief men, and got as his reward the lands of Abercynrig and Slwch. There is plenty of scope for a Norman family established in Wales in the 11th century to have spread far and wide over the centuries from then to the marriage of Richard Aubrey to Ann John in 1759. There are also numerous examples of the use of Richard as a first name amongst various branches of the Aubrey family. In short if I cannot prove that we have the same ancestors as Dr. William Aubrey, John Aubrey and the Aubreys of Llantrithyd I certainly cannot disprove it either so my father might have been more right than he knew after all!.
By Anne John he had 7 children baptized at Llangynwyd, namely Richard, Catherine, William (father of my ancestor Margaret Aubrey), Thomas, Morgan and 2 Johns, one who died aged 4 in 1774 and the other born 1775. At some stage they moved to Porthkerry since the records show them there. Porthkerry is close to the coast and either by sea or by land Bristol is no great distance away. My ancestor Margaret Aubrey married David Lewis in Bristol but the 1841 census does say she was born in Glamorgan. The only baptism record I can find for her in Glamorgan which gives the right age at death, 47, is on 24 December 1797 at Porthkerry, daughter of William and his wife Ann nee Evans. Her father William, who was living in Barry when he died and was buried in Porthkerry in 1819, had been a farmer according to the baptism records of several of his children. He may (or may not) have been the same William Aubrey who had an earlier marriage to a Mary Lewis in Llantrithyd who presumably died before he married Margaret's mother in 1797 and who was a churchwarden at St Illtyd's Llantrithyd in 1799. We know his brother Morgan Aubrey was a churchwarden there in 1805. A family owning land in Glamorgan might well have chosen to live in Bristol for part or all of the time if they had trading or social interests there.
So far so good but where did Richard Aubrey come from? The first place to look was Llangynwyd where there is more than one Aubrey family. I found in FreeReg a William Aubrey who marries a Catherine Philip in Llangynwydd on 30 October 1756 and has these children baptized there:
Thomas 16 January 1757.
William 27 July 1759.
Mary 2 April 1762.
Lewis 12 July 1764
Charles 23 April 1767.
Going back further an Ann Aubrey was baptized in Llangynwyd on 9 February 1724, father Thomas mother Elinor. An Elinor Aubrey, who may be the mother or another child, no age given, is buried there on 6 June 1729. Earlier than that I can find no Aubrey records in Llangynwyd in FreeReg or FamilySearch, and most frustratingly there is no record of a Richard Aubrey. The absence of child baptism records could be explained if the Aubreys were Welsh Baptists and the fact that Richard was married at the Calfaria Baptist Church the same day as his marriage in the parish church indicates that he at least was a practising Baptist. His own children were baptized, presumably at his wife's request/insistence.
There are Aubreys recorded in Llangyfelach, (Joan baptized 20 October 1728 and Richard baptized 31 March 1734, both of whose father was Thomas). There are also several Aubreys in nearby Llangiwg including a Richard baptized 20 August 1710, father William, Both Llangyfelach and Llangiwg are close to Swansea but 23 odd miles by road from Llangynwyd. Richard Aubrey might well have come from either and moved though I should note that a Richard Aubrey married a Jane Lloyd in Llangyfelach on 12 July 1760 (FreeReg). If this is the Richard Aubrey who was baptized in Llangyfelach in 1734 it rather puts him out of the running to be the one who married in Llangynwyd in 1759!.
Finally I have two other possible candidates. There is a record in FamilySearch of a Richard Awbrey baptized at St Illtyd, Llantwit Juxta Neath on 26 July 1724, father Richard. There is another record in FamilySearch of a Richard Aubrey baptized on 7 January 1723 in Hay, Brecknockshire. No parents' names are given.
On the whole I think it likeliest that Richard Aubrey was born in Llangynwyd but as yet that can only be a working assumption and without more information I cannot really get any further back at present.
My father Douglas Aubrey Owen believed that we were related to the famous Aubrey family of Llantrithyd. The Aubrey family inherited lands in Llantrithyd (Glamorgan) when Sir Thomas Aubrey, second son of Dr William Aubrey married Mary, daughter and co-heiress of Anthony Mansel of Llantrithyd in 1586. Sir Thomas's second son, Sir John Aubrey, a strong Royalist was created baronet in 1660. The 17th century Antiquarian and writer John Aubrey, author of Brief Lives, was related to this family. He was a great grandson of Dr William Aubrey. I don't think Daddy had any evidence of relationship other than the fact that the Owens had preserved Aubrey as a family name down the generations. The one thing I can say with total certainty is that if there is a connection to the Aubreys who were Baronets then it is not a legitimate one because if Richard Aubrey had been a legitimate descendant his male heirs, of whom there were very many, would have had a claim to the Baronetcy when it was extinguished in 1856 with the death of Sir Thomas Digby Aubrey. Richard Aubrey may have been illegitimate but if so he was more likely to be the illegitimate son of a female Aubrey. It was very rare for male bastards to be acknowledged with the father's name precisely because that could cast doubt on the line of descent. So if there is a legitimate connection to the Aubreys of Llantrithyd it is likely to go much further back to the family's earliest origins which were in Abercynrig in Breconshire (or Abercynfrig as it is written in most of the old genealogies). The Aubreys, variously found as Awbrey, Aubray or Albery, and derived from the Norman De Alberico, can be traced back to the Norman Conquest. The Normans reached Wales in the late 11th century when Bernard De Newmarche invaded Breconshire. Sir Reginald Awbery was one of Bernard De Newmarche’s chief men, and got as his reward the lands of Abercynrig and Slwch. There is plenty of scope for a Norman family established in Wales in the 11th century to have spread far and wide over the centuries from then to the marriage of Richard Aubrey to Ann John in 1759. There are also numerous examples of the use of Richard as a first name amongst various branches of the Aubrey family. In short if I cannot prove that we have the same ancestors as Dr. William Aubrey, John Aubrey and the Aubreys of Llantrithyd I certainly cannot disprove it either so my father might have been more right than he knew after all!.
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