According to the typed 1951 mss by author, Edward Nicholas Clopper, Moses Este, Sr., the father of Captain Moses Este (the younger one married to wife Anna Kirkpatrick) is buried here at this cemetery, which Clopper describes in great detail [1951 mss, Cinti Mus Center His Lib]. Clopper tells us that Moses, the father died in 1795, at the advanced age of 84 yrs in the home of his daughter Eunice. Using this age to calculate backwards results in an estimated birth of c1710-1711, so an estimated year is being entered here. Clopper informs us that this daughter, Eunice Este was the wife of Benjamin Franklin Brannan, who served with a Chester Co. battalion in the Revolution, being a Lieut.-Colonel in 1777; they had several children, and resided on a large farm, over the Schulkill near Philadelphia. So this is the home where Moses Este Sr. died. See LtC. Brannan entry at findagrave #42355835, Laurel Hill Cem.
An "Enfield Township, Hartford", Conn. birth record for Moses Este (the son) which names a father, Moses Este and names a mother Eunice does appear, with its required citation: "Connecticut, Births and Christenings, 1649-1906, index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F742-B62: accessed 29 Apr 2014), Moses Este, 07 Jan 1752; citing; FHL microfilm unknown". This 7 Jan date is about 11 days prior to the alternate 18 Jan date, so perhaps one is birth, one christening for the elder Moses's son, Moses Este. One may need to recheck that combined book for the Morristown NJ Presbyterian Registers, but remarkably several primary records naming the father seem to exist.
I see that a 1712 church record exists: Moses Esty, christened 6 Sept 1712, Topsfield, Essex Co., Mass, the son of Isaac Esty.["Massachusetts, Births and Christenings, 1639-1915," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VQ6N-B85 : accessed 02 Sep 2014), Moses Esty, ;citing,;FHL microfilm 476926]
Know that author E.N. Clopper prominently discusses the issue of early Italian heritage on the first page of his 1951 mss, The Este Family. [Cinti Mus Cntr Cinti His Lib]. Clopper disagreed with heritage as set forth, The Abridged Compendium of American Genealogy, Vol I p506; apparently, that compendium traces the line from a Geoffrey Este of english heritage, of Salem, Mass, 1636 via Isaac Estee/Abigail Kimball. Clopper explains that "another branch of the family has sought to" make this link back, with which he disagrees due to his grandmother's memoranda and her communication back then with her relatives. His grandmother was Mary Este Clopper buried at Spring Grove Cem., Cincinnati. Clopper politely urged "One is more inclined to accept Mary's positive statement that her grandfather ‘came from Italy' as Clopper more fully explains. This controversial issue which would take away the link back to the early 1600s Salem witch trials (Mary Towne Este) is beyond the scope being addressed here.
In the event, however, that it may help to sort out the puzzle pieces, Clopper writes that his grandmother lived with her father, Moses Este in his home in Morristown, NJ until she, Mary Este Clopper was twenty six yrs of age, her mother having died when she was nine. Clopper concludes: "She therefore had abundant opportunity to learn from him about the Este Family. Throughout her long life she kept in touch with her relatives and was given to setting down memoranda concerning them. In her ‘Record of the Este Family' she states, ‘My Grandfather Este, my Father's Father, came from Italy. He first went to Germany, then to England, then he moved to America, lived in Suffield, Connecticut, where my Father Moses Este was born."
But later Clopper does quote and discuss a Quaker (following Hinshaw Vol II p517) daughter Abigail Estey Trueman, who died shortly after her marriage and left no issue, and pondered "One is at a loss to know whether Moses Este of Suffield 'came from Italy' or came from Massachusetts as the son of Isaac and Abigail (Kimball) Estee. Both versions agree that Moses Este and Eunice Pengilly were married in 1736 and lived in Suffield, Conn., but they differ slightly as to the number and names of their children." [Cinti Mus Cntr Cinti His Lib Mss___, 1951]
I am hopeful that proof and additional sources may be known by others which could help prove or disprove this Moses Este, Sr.'s descent from Isaac Estey Jr. & Abigail Kimball (certainly older parents if dates here are correct); any sourced clues are helpful. Further research seems to reveal that a son named Moses is named in a Will, and also seems to be named via a church register, Topsfield, Essex Co., Mass/Conn. So with the caveat that his alleged parents seem to be his actual parents, I will link the early findagrave entries back via what Clopper calls the Compendium's version, temporarily.
But please heed Clopper's admonitions-corrections welcome! Does anyone know the alternative parentage? do advise. Whether there were two/three early men by the same name is unknown. Do examine the early Suffield family surnamed: Pengilly, Pengilley, Penquille, Penguille, Perguille -- entwinement discussion elsewhere. I further lack knowledge as to ancestry's reference to a different? man also named Moses (roughly 1700/1753, with his alleged NJ death say 40 yrs prior to 1790s) so perhaps someone knowledgeable could send further sourced input to be posted here. Thanks! [bio by findagraver, DBardes, late May-Sept 2014]
An "Enfield Township, Hartford", Conn. birth record for Moses Este (the son) which names a father, Moses Este and names a mother Eunice does appear, with its required citation: "Connecticut, Births and Christenings, 1649-1906, index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F742-B62: accessed 29 Apr 2014), Moses Este, 07 Jan 1752; citing; FHL microfilm unknown". This 7 Jan date is about 11 days prior to the alternate 18 Jan date, so perhaps one is birth, one christening for the elder Moses's son, Moses Este. One may need to recheck that combined book for the Morristown NJ Presbyterian Registers, but remarkably several primary records naming the father seem to exist.
I see that a 1712 church record exists: Moses Esty, christened 6 Sept 1712, Topsfield, Essex Co., Mass, the son of Isaac Esty.["Massachusetts, Births and Christenings, 1639-1915," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VQ6N-B85 : accessed 02 Sep 2014), Moses Esty, ;citing,;FHL microfilm 476926]
Know that author E.N. Clopper prominently discusses the issue of early Italian heritage on the first page of his 1951 mss, The Este Family. [Cinti Mus Cntr Cinti His Lib]. Clopper disagreed with heritage as set forth, The Abridged Compendium of American Genealogy, Vol I p506; apparently, that compendium traces the line from a Geoffrey Este of english heritage, of Salem, Mass, 1636 via Isaac Estee/Abigail Kimball. Clopper explains that "another branch of the family has sought to" make this link back, with which he disagrees due to his grandmother's memoranda and her communication back then with her relatives. His grandmother was Mary Este Clopper buried at Spring Grove Cem., Cincinnati. Clopper politely urged "One is more inclined to accept Mary's positive statement that her grandfather ‘came from Italy' as Clopper more fully explains. This controversial issue which would take away the link back to the early 1600s Salem witch trials (Mary Towne Este) is beyond the scope being addressed here.
In the event, however, that it may help to sort out the puzzle pieces, Clopper writes that his grandmother lived with her father, Moses Este in his home in Morristown, NJ until she, Mary Este Clopper was twenty six yrs of age, her mother having died when she was nine. Clopper concludes: "She therefore had abundant opportunity to learn from him about the Este Family. Throughout her long life she kept in touch with her relatives and was given to setting down memoranda concerning them. In her ‘Record of the Este Family' she states, ‘My Grandfather Este, my Father's Father, came from Italy. He first went to Germany, then to England, then he moved to America, lived in Suffield, Connecticut, where my Father Moses Este was born."
But later Clopper does quote and discuss a Quaker (following Hinshaw Vol II p517) daughter Abigail Estey Trueman, who died shortly after her marriage and left no issue, and pondered "One is at a loss to know whether Moses Este of Suffield 'came from Italy' or came from Massachusetts as the son of Isaac and Abigail (Kimball) Estee. Both versions agree that Moses Este and Eunice Pengilly were married in 1736 and lived in Suffield, Conn., but they differ slightly as to the number and names of their children." [Cinti Mus Cntr Cinti His Lib Mss___, 1951]
I am hopeful that proof and additional sources may be known by others which could help prove or disprove this Moses Este, Sr.'s descent from Isaac Estey Jr. & Abigail Kimball (certainly older parents if dates here are correct); any sourced clues are helpful. Further research seems to reveal that a son named Moses is named in a Will, and also seems to be named via a church register, Topsfield, Essex Co., Mass/Conn. So with the caveat that his alleged parents seem to be his actual parents, I will link the early findagrave entries back via what Clopper calls the Compendium's version, temporarily.
But please heed Clopper's admonitions-corrections welcome! Does anyone know the alternative parentage? do advise. Whether there were two/three early men by the same name is unknown. Do examine the early Suffield family surnamed: Pengilly, Pengilley, Penquille, Penguille, Perguille -- entwinement discussion elsewhere. I further lack knowledge as to ancestry's reference to a different? man also named Moses (roughly 1700/1753, with his alleged NJ death say 40 yrs prior to 1790s) so perhaps someone knowledgeable could send further sourced input to be posted here. Thanks! [bio by findagraver, DBardes, late May-Sept 2014]
According to the typed 1951 mss by author, Edward Nicholas Clopper, Moses Este, Sr., the father of Captain Moses Este (the younger one married to wife Anna Kirkpatrick) is buried here at this cemetery, which Clopper describes in great detail [1951 mss, Cinti Mus Center His Lib]. Clopper tells us that Moses, the father died in 1795, at the advanced age of 84 yrs in the home of his daughter Eunice. Using this age to calculate backwards results in an estimated birth of c1710-1711, so an estimated year is being entered here. Clopper informs us that this daughter, Eunice Este was the wife of Benjamin Franklin Brannan, who served with a Chester Co. battalion in the Revolution, being a Lieut.-Colonel in 1777; they had several children, and resided on a large farm, over the Schulkill near Philadelphia. So this is the home where Moses Este Sr. died. See LtC. Brannan entry at findagrave #42355835, Laurel Hill Cem.
An "Enfield Township, Hartford", Conn. birth record for Moses Este (the son) which names a father, Moses Este and names a mother Eunice does appear, with its required citation: "Connecticut, Births and Christenings, 1649-1906, index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F742-B62: accessed 29 Apr 2014), Moses Este, 07 Jan 1752; citing; FHL microfilm unknown". This 7 Jan date is about 11 days prior to the alternate 18 Jan date, so perhaps one is birth, one christening for the elder Moses's son, Moses Este. One may need to recheck that combined book for the Morristown NJ Presbyterian Registers, but remarkably several primary records naming the father seem to exist.
I see that a 1712 church record exists: Moses Esty, christened 6 Sept 1712, Topsfield, Essex Co., Mass, the son of Isaac Esty.["Massachusetts, Births and Christenings, 1639-1915," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VQ6N-B85 : accessed 02 Sep 2014), Moses Esty, ;citing,;FHL microfilm 476926]
Know that author E.N. Clopper prominently discusses the issue of early Italian heritage on the first page of his 1951 mss, The Este Family. [Cinti Mus Cntr Cinti His Lib]. Clopper disagreed with heritage as set forth, The Abridged Compendium of American Genealogy, Vol I p506; apparently, that compendium traces the line from a Geoffrey Este of english heritage, of Salem, Mass, 1636 via Isaac Estee/Abigail Kimball. Clopper explains that "another branch of the family has sought to" make this link back, with which he disagrees due to his grandmother's memoranda and her communication back then with her relatives. His grandmother was Mary Este Clopper buried at Spring Grove Cem., Cincinnati. Clopper politely urged "One is more inclined to accept Mary's positive statement that her grandfather ‘came from Italy' as Clopper more fully explains. This controversial issue which would take away the link back to the early 1600s Salem witch trials (Mary Towne Este) is beyond the scope being addressed here.
In the event, however, that it may help to sort out the puzzle pieces, Clopper writes that his grandmother lived with her father, Moses Este in his home in Morristown, NJ until she, Mary Este Clopper was twenty six yrs of age, her mother having died when she was nine. Clopper concludes: "She therefore had abundant opportunity to learn from him about the Este Family. Throughout her long life she kept in touch with her relatives and was given to setting down memoranda concerning them. In her ‘Record of the Este Family' she states, ‘My Grandfather Este, my Father's Father, came from Italy. He first went to Germany, then to England, then he moved to America, lived in Suffield, Connecticut, where my Father Moses Este was born."
But later Clopper does quote and discuss a Quaker (following Hinshaw Vol II p517) daughter Abigail Estey Trueman, who died shortly after her marriage and left no issue, and pondered "One is at a loss to know whether Moses Este of Suffield 'came from Italy' or came from Massachusetts as the son of Isaac and Abigail (Kimball) Estee. Both versions agree that Moses Este and Eunice Pengilly were married in 1736 and lived in Suffield, Conn., but they differ slightly as to the number and names of their children." [Cinti Mus Cntr Cinti His Lib Mss___, 1951]
I am hopeful that proof and additional sources may be known by others which could help prove or disprove this Moses Este, Sr.'s descent from Isaac Estey Jr. & Abigail Kimball (certainly older parents if dates here are correct); any sourced clues are helpful. Further research seems to reveal that a son named Moses is named in a Will, and also seems to be named via a church register, Topsfield, Essex Co., Mass/Conn. So with the caveat that his alleged parents seem to be his actual parents, I will link the early findagrave entries back via what Clopper calls the Compendium's version, temporarily.
But please heed Clopper's admonitions-corrections welcome! Does anyone know the alternative parentage? do advise. Whether there were two/three early men by the same name is unknown. Do examine the early Suffield family surnamed: Pengilly, Pengilley, Penquille, Penguille, Perguille -- entwinement discussion elsewhere. I further lack knowledge as to ancestry's reference to a different? man also named Moses (roughly 1700/1753, with his alleged NJ death say 40 yrs prior to 1790s) so perhaps someone knowledgeable could send further sourced input to be posted here. Thanks! [bio by findagraver, DBardes, late May-Sept 2014]
An "Enfield Township, Hartford", Conn. birth record for Moses Este (the son) which names a father, Moses Este and names a mother Eunice does appear, with its required citation: "Connecticut, Births and Christenings, 1649-1906, index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F742-B62: accessed 29 Apr 2014), Moses Este, 07 Jan 1752; citing; FHL microfilm unknown". This 7 Jan date is about 11 days prior to the alternate 18 Jan date, so perhaps one is birth, one christening for the elder Moses's son, Moses Este. One may need to recheck that combined book for the Morristown NJ Presbyterian Registers, but remarkably several primary records naming the father seem to exist.
I see that a 1712 church record exists: Moses Esty, christened 6 Sept 1712, Topsfield, Essex Co., Mass, the son of Isaac Esty.["Massachusetts, Births and Christenings, 1639-1915," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VQ6N-B85 : accessed 02 Sep 2014), Moses Esty, ;citing,;FHL microfilm 476926]
Know that author E.N. Clopper prominently discusses the issue of early Italian heritage on the first page of his 1951 mss, The Este Family. [Cinti Mus Cntr Cinti His Lib]. Clopper disagreed with heritage as set forth, The Abridged Compendium of American Genealogy, Vol I p506; apparently, that compendium traces the line from a Geoffrey Este of english heritage, of Salem, Mass, 1636 via Isaac Estee/Abigail Kimball. Clopper explains that "another branch of the family has sought to" make this link back, with which he disagrees due to his grandmother's memoranda and her communication back then with her relatives. His grandmother was Mary Este Clopper buried at Spring Grove Cem., Cincinnati. Clopper politely urged "One is more inclined to accept Mary's positive statement that her grandfather ‘came from Italy' as Clopper more fully explains. This controversial issue which would take away the link back to the early 1600s Salem witch trials (Mary Towne Este) is beyond the scope being addressed here.
In the event, however, that it may help to sort out the puzzle pieces, Clopper writes that his grandmother lived with her father, Moses Este in his home in Morristown, NJ until she, Mary Este Clopper was twenty six yrs of age, her mother having died when she was nine. Clopper concludes: "She therefore had abundant opportunity to learn from him about the Este Family. Throughout her long life she kept in touch with her relatives and was given to setting down memoranda concerning them. In her ‘Record of the Este Family' she states, ‘My Grandfather Este, my Father's Father, came from Italy. He first went to Germany, then to England, then he moved to America, lived in Suffield, Connecticut, where my Father Moses Este was born."
But later Clopper does quote and discuss a Quaker (following Hinshaw Vol II p517) daughter Abigail Estey Trueman, who died shortly after her marriage and left no issue, and pondered "One is at a loss to know whether Moses Este of Suffield 'came from Italy' or came from Massachusetts as the son of Isaac and Abigail (Kimball) Estee. Both versions agree that Moses Este and Eunice Pengilly were married in 1736 and lived in Suffield, Conn., but they differ slightly as to the number and names of their children." [Cinti Mus Cntr Cinti His Lib Mss___, 1951]
I am hopeful that proof and additional sources may be known by others which could help prove or disprove this Moses Este, Sr.'s descent from Isaac Estey Jr. & Abigail Kimball (certainly older parents if dates here are correct); any sourced clues are helpful. Further research seems to reveal that a son named Moses is named in a Will, and also seems to be named via a church register, Topsfield, Essex Co., Mass/Conn. So with the caveat that his alleged parents seem to be his actual parents, I will link the early findagrave entries back via what Clopper calls the Compendium's version, temporarily.
But please heed Clopper's admonitions-corrections welcome! Does anyone know the alternative parentage? do advise. Whether there were two/three early men by the same name is unknown. Do examine the early Suffield family surnamed: Pengilly, Pengilley, Penquille, Penguille, Perguille -- entwinement discussion elsewhere. I further lack knowledge as to ancestry's reference to a different? man also named Moses (roughly 1700/1753, with his alleged NJ death say 40 yrs prior to 1790s) so perhaps someone knowledgeable could send further sourced input to be posted here. Thanks! [bio by findagraver, DBardes, late May-Sept 2014]
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