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|jimi||RE: Ila Nelson|
Thanks for the picture. If you would like me to transfer your grandma, I will do that for you.
Added by jimi on Jan 20, 2017 12:42 PM
|Paula||RE: Mills Grave|
Hi, I didn't upload the entire headstone because there is another name on it. That person appears to still be living, so I don't believe I'm allowed to post it. If you search Robert G Mills you will find the name of his wife, I believe. If she has passed I can post the complete headstone.
Added by Paula on Oct 07, 2016 5:29 PM
Hi there the grave next to Robert is John Edward who passed away on 5/20/2004 and was born on 7/26/1960. Would you like to add John Edward if so I took a picture I can upload for you
Added by Paula on Oct 03, 2016 11:33 PM
|Tom Glowacki||RE: Thank you|
Glad to help. Having difficulty finding the other Mills grave. I found out she was rebuffed have the site, but do not no where the site is in the cemetery.
|Karen ||Annie Adams|
I'm working off of a list from the VGS and there's always a chance of errors. I know Betty and Dan's work and see the photo and research they've done at Ross Bay so will delete the one in Royal Oak. Thanks for letting me know. A very sad story.
Added by Karen on Mar 16, 2016 2:14 PM
|Ellen FanningCoulter||RE: Many Thanks!|
As far as I know, I have no connections to the Wyeth or Bebee families--which is one of the reasons I'm so intrigued! They are buried in one of the oldest corners of the cemetery, in an area where I am related directly or by marriage to nearly everyone buried there (the reason I made it my mission to photograph all the stones still standing). I've been researching today, and found that 2 of Alexander's sisters, Mary Isabella and Ann Eliza Wyeth both married in Morgan County in 1838. Mary Isabella married John M Metcalf (also a physician) and Ann Eliza married Andrew Pennoyer. I believe it is their daughter Annabell Pennoyer who died in November 1844 at age 2 who is also buried in Old Manchester Cemetery.
I found a reference to one of Mary Isabella's grandsons, Peyton Wyeth Metcalf born in California about 1876 that states he is directly descended from George Wyeth, one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence. That would have to be Alexander's grandfather, as his father George wasn't born until 1784. I traced Mary Isabella in the census until 1880, can't find her after that. Her husband John Metcalf died before the 1860 census, probably after 1854/1855 as their youngest son John was born about 1855.
I traced Ann and Andrew in the census to 1880 in Warren Co., IL. Andrew is a minister. In 1880 Ann is listed as ill with Diabetes, and 30 year old Florence, their daughter, has the measles. Can't find them after that.
Ellen Fanning Coulter
|Ellen FanningCoulter||RE: Harriet Wyeth|
I am fascinated by the Wyeth tombstones in the Old Manchester Cemetery. Until August 2013, when I was photographing the stones, Harriet and her son had been misread and transcribed as Harriet and Litton Wyett. A.R. Wyeth and Harriett P. Bebee married in Morgan County, IL on 7 March 1837 (Scott County, where Manchester Cem is located, was part of Morgan until 1840). Alexander is indexed as Alexander R. Wythe in the IL Secretary of State's online marriage index. The Dr. and his family appear in the 1840 Census of Scott County as living in Winchester township, 1 female under age 5, one female age 10-14, one female age 20-29, and one male, age 20-29. The online Wyeth trees list a daughter Harriett Louisa Maria with a birth date of May 1840 or 1841. My guess is that 1840 is correct and she is the youngest female in the census. The 20-29 year old couple would be Alexander and Harriett, and I'm guessing the other young girl is either her sister or his.
There were a few Bebee/Beebe families living in the area at the time, notably the descendants of a Clark Beebe who bought land in Madison Co., IL in 1819 (at the time included what is now Scott and Morgan Co.) and in Greene Co in 1822 (included Morgan and Scott at the time). You can find Clark on findagrave last name spelled Beebe. He was born in 1770 (Pennsylvania, I think) and died in 1828.
I believe in the 1835 IL State Census Harriett is living with a male relative NOT her father. The only Beebe/Bebee listed in Morgan County was John Beebe. In his household there is one male aged 10-20, 2 males aged 20-30, one female 10 years of age and under, and 2 females aged 20-30.
There are also land sales to a Chauncy/Chancy Beebe/Bebee in April and June 1823 in Greene Co. and in Dec 1829-Jan 1830 in what is now Scott Co. Are you familiar with the Morgan Area Genealogical Society website? They have great online resources for Morgan-Scott-Greene Counties. You can piece together an outline of the Beebe families by reading the bios included in the various county histories. Just go to the Greene County page and search for Beebe:
As far as local libraries or church records, I don't believe that any of the local church records survive (about half of my ancestors are from Scott County, the rest from Morgan, where I grew up). There is a public library in Winchester, Scott Co., but their data does not go back to the 1840's. The Jacksonville Public Library has microfilm of the various early Jacksonville/Morgan County papers going back to that time, but I have never found anything related to personal local news during that time--most were published weekly and dealt with political news, state and national news, etc. You could email the Jax public library with the date of Harriett's death and see if someone there will search for you:
Lastly, all the online Wyeth trees give a death date/place for Alexander as Washington County, TX 25 March 1876. Daughter Harriett Maria Louisa is on findagrave as Harriett Bryson in Ellis Co., TX died 15 Jan 1885. I have never seen documentation for Alexander's death, nor have I seen any documentation of his location in the censuses of 1860-1870. By the 1850 census he was in Pennsylvania, but presumably he did not return there until after his mother Eliza died in October, 1848 in Scott County.
If you have additional insight into Harriett and her family, or have more questions for me, please feel free to email me directly:
Ellen Fanning Coulter
|Betty & Dan||John Henry Adams aka Harry|
There is a very informative write-up about him and their life after leaving Victoria
|Betty & Dan||Sarah Adams nee Brown|
She is buried at Ross Bay in the Adams Family Plot. See Find A Grave Memorial 29268960
|Betty & Dan||RE: Family of Annie Gertrude Adams|
We know from the 1895 death account of Annie Gertrude Adams (some of the Victoria Daily Colonist has been digitalized and is searchable at http://www.britishcolonist.ca/ )
that her father was John H. Adams, son of a Mister Adams, who was drowned in the wreck of the Velos.
Frederick Adams (FindAGrave Memorial 29269288) drowned in the wreck of the Velos on 22 March 1895. His place of birth (on the headstone) is Kirton In Lindsay, Lincolnshire, England. There is an account of him at
and a photo of their home at http://www.victoriaheritagefoundation.ca/HReg/Fernwood/Pembroke1215.html
I found the following on Ancestry.com
1. There is a marriage record for Frederick Adams to Sarah Brown on 13 March 1864 in Kirton in Lindsey, Lincolnshire, England
2. There is a birth registration for John Henry Adams in Kirton In Lindsey, Lincolnshire, England [1864 3rd Quarter, Glanford Brigg, Vol. 7a, Page 617]
3. There is a 2 October 1864 christening record for John Henry Adams, son of Frederick & Sarah, in Kirton In Lindsey, Lincolnshire, England
4. Frederick Adams & Sarah and 3 sons (John H, Fred & Ambrose) are living in Victoria at the time of the 1891 Census
5. There is a marriage record in Lanark County, Ontario of John Adams to Elizabeth Dudgeon 15 March 1892
6. Sarah and her son Frederick Adams Junior both died in the Point Ellice Bridge Disaster 26 May 1896 – Fred Jr is also buried at Ross Bay Cemetery (FindAGrave Memorial 29269400) – lots of sad disasters in this family - Sarah is likely buried there too - we'll see what we can find....
FYI: Many births, deaths & marriages in BC are online at
Betty & Dan
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