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Marcialyn (#47391825)
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Bio Photo Although I am not a famous person (that I know of), I have famous people in my family. My brother Bill, was the drummer for the music group the Grateful Dead, and my mother's father was Clark Shaughnessy, the football coach. (This photo is of my mother, Janice Shaughnessy.)

!!PS-If I submit additional data to a memorial you manage, and you choose to post/add it, please DO NOT attribute my name-I AM JUST A LOWLY STAGEHAND IN THE WINGS.
"It feels kind of like a sacred calling, honoring all of the lives that came before us."-Kendra Anderson daughter of Gale Marshall (nee Hartley) Anderson, step-sister.
For research in the San Francisco area, I highly recommend the SFGenealogy website, where there are nooks and crannies stuffed with information. The site includes the surrounding counties as well.

~~SF-A genealogist's nightmare
All cemeteries (except Mission Delores) within the city limits were eventually moved elsewhere-mostly to San Mateo County, which now has the distinction of having more dead people than living. This newspaper article marks the beginning of the end of San Francisco's burial grounds:
SACRAMENTO, April 17.óWith the bare margin of only two more votes than the number required to carry the group of acts known as the "San Francisco cemetery removal bills" was passed by the senate late this afternoon after a debate lasting several hours. The final roll call showed 23 ayes and 11 noes, with six senators absent or not voting. The purpose of the bills is to provide a legal method for removing the bodies from the cemeteries of pioneer days, and which now are in the midst of the growing city. ... Senator Campbell, Juilliard, Shanahan and Curtin spoke against the bills.
--SF Call, Vol. 113, No. 139, 18 April 1913,p.7

A. J. Gunnison Declares It Is the Work of Rivals in San Mateo County.
The petition now before the Supervisors asking that the cemeteries in this City be practically closed was branded yesterday by A. J. Gunnison, the venerable president of Laurel Hill Cemetery, as an attempt on the part of "designing persons interested in a new burial place in San Mateo County" to hurt an institution belonging by all right to the people of San Francisco in the interest of a private enterprise.
Mr. Gunnison talked as one overcome with contempt and disgust at the proceedings, ...
"We organized under the rural cemetery act of California," he said, "and that gives us the right for all time to have a cemetery. So where can a local Board of Supervisors come in and control us in any way? Every dollar received for land sold to lot owners has been spent on the cemetery ó first for the land itself, then for beautifying the grounds. I have been over twenty years president of Laurel Hill Cemetery and never received a cent for my work as an officer. The cemetery is for the benefit Of the people of San Francisco. After thirty or forty years we have paid for all the land and now every dollar received goes to beautifying the grounds. ... " A man named Noble, ... buys a tract of land down somewhere in San Mateo County and opens a cemetery. These people "who own this burial place are not like usó ...
"The City and County of San Francisco sold to the Laurel Hill Cemetery Association this identical property for $28,000, which sum was paid to the City by us. The City deeded the land to the cemetery for all time as a 'rural cemetery' under the State law. ... "Does San Francisco wish that to go down to posterity as the honesty of the men now in office in San Francisco? And for the simple purpose of enabling stock speculators in an outside cemetery to make money? ...
"Does your association propose to defend itself legally?" ... I do not propose to spend money to fight it if the City and County of San Francisco will sanction their Supervisors' act to destroy the very deeds which were given by the City for the benefit of the people, and for which the City was paid an enormous price. We shall not step in and place ourselves in the position to spend individual money to prevent the disgrace to rest upon the City, believing we have done our duty. That means, if the City of San Francisco wishes to ruin the name of the City of San Francisco let the people themselves ruin it. ...
--San Francisco Call, Vol. 79, No. 47, 16 Jan. 1896

Scion of "Little Corporal" by His English Affinity Came to San Francisco as a Jeweler and His Neglected Tomb Occupies Obscure Corner in the Cemetery.
Curator Barron and Other Speakers Tell Members of Outdoor Art League at Monument to Senator Broderick Honored Dead Shall Not Be Molested

In an obscure corner of Laurel Hill cemetery is a neglected grave, unmarked, quite like hundreds of others in the same tract, yet this one holds the body of a son of Napoleon BONAPARTE, conqueror of Europe. Prof. George Barron, curator of the museum in Golden Gate park, surprised several hundred members of the Outdoor Art league ...
Since Napoleon's death historians of French government have acknowledged the birth of this son of their former leader and have pointed out that he was born soon after Napoleon was sent to St. Helena, and that he died in San Francisco and was buried in Laurel Hill. ..
--San Francisco Call, Volume 113, Number 100, 10 March 1913
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--------Family Summary-----------
We were a part of the "Germans to America" wave although a bit late-1886 was the immigration year of my great grandfather, Dr. Henrich Josef Kreutzmann from Frankfurt am Main, Germany to San Francisco via the 'Gellert'. As I add names to the tree, I've noticed frequent Irish-German connections. My best guess why is that both like their ale and naturally become drinking buddies :).
My Family Tree can be found at Rootsweb World Connect Project-
The San Francisco Kreutzmanns.
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Zack Lofton
RE: Ray Kubelek 133482133
Hi! Sorry it took so long for the transfer. I completely forgot. His obituary says he was born in Bridgeport (just 4 miles from me), but he was born in what was Czechoslovakia, based on the research I conducted. His mother was married twice; first to Frank Mertl. I assume Frank Mertl died between 1896 and 1898 in Czechoslovakia; unless they divorced. Her last child by Mertl was born in 1896, and her first with Kubalek was born in 1898. Thanks!
Added by Zack Lofton on Feb 20, 2017 10:28 AM
Harvey Bell
Elijah Devoe
Thank you for the corrections, Harvey
Added by Harvey Bell on Jan 23, 2017 9:59 AM
Amy Lynn Bolinder
My pleasure to get the photo's for you. I will try to make it back out to Greenwood soon to get the Timberman photos. I don't want to claim the request in case another contributor can get to it sooner. I found two more Ziegler's in Rose Hill Burial Park, linked them and will get their photo's also as soon as I can. Also I wanted to let you know there are more Ziegler's in Millville Cemetery. Some are photographed and some are not, but I remember seeing their stones last time I was at Millville. Thanks for all the info, I appreciate all you do for Find A Grave., Amy
Added by Amy Lynn Bolinder on Nov 22, 2016 9:00 AM
Alison H
RE: Samuel Zigler Memorial# 133466189
Thank you for the information. I included some additional info regarding his marriage and children and added it to Samuel's memorial.
Added by Alison H on Nov 22, 2016 7:56 AM
Bertha Avery-Hood
Thanks so much for the full obit.
Added by Bertha Avery-Hood on Nov 02, 2016 11:33 AM
Rachel Shaw
RE: Obit for Margaret K. Warnecke
I transferred Margaret to you as well. Enjoy!
Added by Rachel Shaw on Nov 01, 2016 1:11 PM
Rachel Shaw
RE: 144841142 Carl WARNECKE
I don't see the obit in my edits. Do you want to try it again? I'm happy to transfer ownership too.
Added by Rachel Shaw on Oct 30, 2016 12:37 PM
Gerry Jean
RE: Margaret E
Yesterday was beeyootiful .... I shivered all the short time I was there today.
Always welcome Marcia!!
Added by Gerry Jean on Sep 01, 2016 12:24 AM
Susan Lundblade
RE: Margaret E
Hi Marcialyn,
Thanks for the quick reply. I would like to know what is required to as a manager for the site.

Best regards,

Added by Susan Lundblade on Aug 29, 2016 8:18 PM
Michael Smuda
William Wishart, Woodland Cemetery
There are two pages for William Wishart that I think are for the same person. 87673380 created by Corky C on 3-30-2012 and 125729556 created by Marcialyn on 2-28-2014. Both have different amounts of information, neither has the plot, Blk-19 Lt-21 Gr-4. I am posting a picture on both, but it is only a site photo, there is no marker.

May I suggest that the two of you get together and merge the pages?

Michael Smuda
Added by Michael Smuda on Jul 21, 2016 7:11 PM
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