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Lorenzo Brieba (#47080176)
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On Death..

"How you die is more important than how you live..but if you live long enough, you can piss on your enemy's grave."

A 'Ushabtis' is a burial figure left in the tomb of the dead to serve as servants in the afterlife:
"Illumine the Osiris I, whose word is truth. Hail, Shabti. If the Osiris I be decreed to do any of the work which is to be done in the Khert-Neter (i.e. the cemetery), let everything which standeth in the way be removed from him – or to carry sand from (the East to the West). 'Here am I', you shall say, 'I shall do it.'"

A 'Death Camera' is desensitized to all the horrors the profession entails.

Sometimes it's the things that aren't there - the graves that were purposely erased to remove memory that make the biggest impact.

You shouldn't have to use imagination to uncover historical layers but be moved by what is not there.

You can tell almost everything about a person by just knowing where they were born and how they died.

'Cryptic-Social Photography' is styled towards destroying all legends as an ultimate point in life by finishing them off in death and resurrecting those buried in unmarked graves or unknown locations after authorities’ efforts to hide the burial sites backfires on them.

The scenario of the former unknown grave sites of Benito Mussolini & Ernesto 'Che' Guevara are reminders of this.

The vitality of a grave's location rapidly becomes a matter of intense interest in that as long as the grave doesn’t exist, a corpse that is nowhere is everywhere., which is the case with Alexander the Great, Scipio Africanus, Genghis Khan, Marco Polo, Crazy Horse, Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid.

Still today certain graves such as that of Rudolf Hess are purposely entirely erased. Hess's grave was re-opened on 20 July 2011 and his remains were exhumed and cremated. His ashes were scattered at sea; the gravestone, which bore the epitaph "Ich hab's gewagt" ("I have dared"), was destroyed.

Needless to say according to the Quaker belief that death equalizes everyone, graves and stones can be unmarked, such as the graves of Jack London & Jacob Riis.

A great boulder marks the grave of Lloyd George. There is no inscription. However a monument designed by the architect Sir Clough Williams-Ellis was subsequently erected around the grave, bearing an englyn (strict-metre stanza) engraved on slate in his memory.
Nearby stands the Lloyd George Museum, opened in 1963.

A grave, such as Titian, is interred in the Basilica di Santa Maria Gloriosa dei Frari, lying near his own famous painting, the Madonna di Ca' Pesaro. No memorial marked his grave. Much later the Austrian rulers of Venice commissioned Antonio Canova to sculpt a large monument.

Yet there are those like Woody Guthrie who choose to be cremated and are neither. Ashes dumped in the ocean off Coney Island.
Zero Mostel on the other hand in accordance with his final request, did not stage a funeral or memorial service. He was cremated and the location of his ashes are not publicly known.

Rudyard Kipling told stories of places through his poetry, such as the poem "Lichtenberg" which relates the impact of a combatant and his journey towards death in a foreign land having a legacy far beyond a rusting cross at the Lichtenburg cemetery.

At the beginning of World War I, Kipling also wrote poems which supported the war, that Britain was standing up for the cause of good.
Kipling was asked by the British government to write propaganda, an offer he immediately accepted. His pamphlets and stories were very popular with the British people during the war with his major themes glorifying the British military as the place for heroic men to be.

Kipling's son, John had wanted to join the Royal Navy, but was turned down after a failed medical exam. He opted for military service as an Army officer, but his eyesight was an issue. He tried to enlist twice, but was rejected.
His father being lifelong friends with Lord Roberts, Colonel of the Irish Guards, at Rudyard's request, John was accepted.

John Kipling would be killed in action at the Battle of Loos on September 1915, at age 18.
He was last seen stumbling through the mud blindly, screaming in agony after an exploding shell had ripped his face apart.
A body identified as his was not found until 1992, although that identification had been challenged.

In January 2016 it was announced that the mystery of the whereabouts of John’s body had been solved and that he had been buried some distance away from the battlefield.

After his son's death, Kipling wrote, "If any question why we died/ Tell them, because our fathers lied."

In response to John's death, Kipling joined the Imperial War Graves Commission, the group responsible for garden-like British war graves found along the former Western Front and other locations around the world where troops of the British Empire lie buried.

Kipling’s poem "The King's Pilgrimage" (1922) depicts a journey which King George V made, touring the cemeteries and memorials under construction.

Kipling's most significant contribution to the project was his selection of the biblical phrase "Their Name Liveth For Evermore" (Ecclesiasticus 44.14, KJV) found on the Stones of Remembrance in larger war cemeteries and his suggestion of the phrase "Known unto God" for the gravestones of unidentified servicemen.
He chose the inscription "The Glorious Dead" on the Cenotaph, Whitehall, London.
Kipling penned an inscription for the Honored Dead Memorial (Siege Memorial) in Kimberley.

Kipling's short story, "The Gardener", depicts visits to war cemeteries.

Leading an interesting life does not mean anything if you do not have an interesting death.

You can go tell that to the 300 Spartans at Thermopylae, Napoleon's Imperial Guard at Waterloo, 182 at the Alamo, Los Ninos Heroes at Chapultepec Castle, Adolf Hitler in the bunker, or Che Guevara at the schoolhouse in La Higuera...

Captain Clark: Colonel, there's no such thing as "death with honor". Just death.
Colonel Kurt Steiner: I have no intention of dying now. But if I'm going to, allow me to choose where and how.
("The Eagle has Landed" 1976)

“How you die, when you die, where you die, and why you die, determines how you lived"

S.P.E.C.T.E.R. - G.H.O.S.T.S. 13th Group
'Never Negotiate - Nothing Remains'
"Inoiz Negoziatzeko - Deus Geratzen"
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jordan greene
Isaac Willner
Hoping you can help me out with a photo request at Montefiore...thanks in advance

Added by jordan greene on Jun 14, 2016 12:39 PM
Motulsky family plot
Hi Lorenzo,
Just click on my name David on this message and look at my photo requests and you will see lots of Motulsky's buried at Mount hebron and the plot information.
Added by David on Oct 04, 2015 6:32 PM
Hi Lorenzo,
I have about 13 family members buried in the Motulsky (Matulsky) family plot at Mount Hebron.
Next time your there could you please take a look for me.
Thank you ,
Added by David on Oct 04, 2015 1:27 PM
Ginny M
RE: Mr. Roger's Grave
From what we remember, we knew it was a mausoleum, and drove around looking for Rogers. Then as we passed this mausoleum, there were graves that caught our eye...possibly McFeely, and checked out the mausoleum, and hurray!
Added by Ginny M on Jun 01, 2015 7:21 PM
Simcha Freedman
Sadie Kryshka!!!
Would it be possible for you to find my grandmother's grave and photograph and post her headstone on this website? She is buried in Mt. Hebron cemetery in Flushing but I do not have any more information. Thank you very much for any help you can give me.
Added by Simcha Freedman on Mar 15, 2015 5:15 PM
Chuck Kearns
Isabelle Collin Dufresne
Ultra Violet is buried somewhere in Saint Egreve, France. 2 cemeteries come up in a google search: Saint Roch Cemetery and Cemetery du Grand Sablon. I'm not sure which one she is in.
Added by Chuck Kearns on Feb 13, 2015 6:52 PM
Merle Bruno
Prokesh headstones
I see that my great grandfather, Jacob Prokesh, is listed on Find a Grave at Mount Hebron cemetery. I wasn't certain where he was buried, but the name and date of birth are the same as my Jacob Process and he did live in NY and had a daughter on Long Island so I am assuming this is him. His wife's name was Anna Rose Berkowitz Process, and I see an Anna Berkowitz at that cemetery, but the date of her death shown isn't quite what I have--but I could be wrong.

I would very much appreciate seeing photos of both stones to help me figure out if these two people are actually from my family.

I appreciate the effort you put into this and I understand that winter is not the ideal time to stroll around cemeteries, but when you do get a chance and if you are still doing this, that would be wonderful.

Thank you so much.
Added by Merle Bruno on Jan 23, 2015 8:53 PM
Bernard Johnson
Belle Baruch
Would you be so kind as to include your wonderful photos of the Bernard Baruch grave area at his daughter's site as well---the bench and distance shots would be a welcome addition to her memorial. Thank you.
Added by Bernard Johnson on Jan 16, 2015 9:11 PM
Headstone photo request
Dear sir:
I am most anxious to have a photo of the headstone(s) of Mr. Isidore & Ethel Portigas (Mt. Hebron Cemetery:
130-04 Horace Harding Expressway
Flushing, NY 11367)
I put a request in via findagrave via the usual way but never received a photo.
I would be most grateful if you could provide one.
My e-mail address is
Many thanks,
Added by Jared on Jan 11, 2015 7:59 AM
Louis du Mort
RE: LeRoy Neiman
Thanks for sharing that with me. Very cool!
Added by Louis du Mort on Dec 19, 2014 2:08 AM
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