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Allen Helderman (#47722226)
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Marlene L. Thompson
Jane (nee Barr) Prater #94239899 Transfer
Hi Allen,
Thank You for all your help & time reviewing and answering concerns and the great pics. Appreciate this transfer, as well. Contacted three other contributors & things are working out fine.
Marlene Thompson, Find-A-Grave Contributor #49090873
Added by Marlene L. Thompson on Sep 04, 2017 10:48 PM
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RE: George Troup & Katherine Donahay
Thanks for the very timely edits. I always try and leave as many bread crumbs as I can to make sure my info is correct. I am not a direct relative but maybe someone will come along who is and want to care for their memorials. have a Blessed Evening... Sandi 😍
Added by ℒℴѵT... on Aug 23, 2017 8:45 PM
Marlene L. Thompson
RE: Jane Prater
Allen, I appreciate your work and thank you for your consent to post the pics to my family tree for them. Our paths may cross again. Marlene L. Thompson #49090873
Added by Marlene L. Thompson on Aug 22, 2017 8:45 PM
Marlene L. Thompson
RE: Jane Prater
Your question is concerning information on the parents of Julia Ann Burris. Unsuccessfully, I spent some time today trying to get some answers.
My family tree has an intermixing of Barrs & Burress/Burris ancestors which may someday lead to documents identifying the parents of Julia Ann Burris. It may be easier to find some of her siblings in the area first. It would be best to look at the older Census records for Daviess & Martin Co., Indiana to locate Burress/Burris men who settled there the earliest. The Find a Grave links that I spent a few hrs. looking over today for Daviess & Martin Coís, Indiana, donít have any burials that could be a possible father for her or for her mother. There arenít many burials of people given in the Find A Grave.com site for burials of people born before 1800 for any early settling of Burress/Burruss/Burris families in Daviess & Martin Co., IN.

What a great picture of the mother and daughter tombstones in the same frame that you have added. May I have permission to use your grave pics of them in my Ancestry.com Gallery Link for each of them, with credit given to you for the pics?
Marlene Thompson
Added by Marlene L. Thompson on Aug 22, 2017 7:46 PM
Marlene L. Thompson
RE: Jane Prater
I appreciate your inquiry into what is the source. Allen, You have captured an amazing revalation in the photo of Jane wife of B.F. Praterís online memorial tombstone picture is the name Julia Ann on the tombstone directly behind Janeís tombstone. Jane is a member of the United Brethern Church as her stone so states. & she is buried in the Old Union Cemetery, Alfordsville, Indiana. Look that picture over and compare it to the one for Julia Ann Barr at Find A Grave and I think that the conclusion of all these documents below will bear out that she is indeed the daughter of Thomas Barr and Julia Burris Barr. Julia is buried in the same cemetery as her daughter Jane who died a scant 8yrs. after her mother. Jane (nee Barr) Prater is the 1st wife of B.F. Prater.


Web Link to 1850 Census for Jane Barr 18yrs., in her parents household in Reeve Twp., Daviess Co., Indiana:
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/8054/4193372-00240/1747604?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/102354032/person/340133954709/facts


Web Link to Indiana, Marriages, 1810-2001 for Benjamin F Prater Daviess Co> 1849-1860 Vol 1: His marriage to Jane Barr 1 Feb 1852. License granted 29 Jan 1852.
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60282/004476509_00567/1693748?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/102354032/person/340134280883/facts

U.S. Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934: on Benjamin F Prather filed by his widow, Mary E. Prather who is the 2nd wife of BF Prater:
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/4654/32959_033043-02629/164988?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/102354032/person/340134280883/facts
He was in 53rd Ind Inf Co A. & his 2nd wife filed this request in Kansas.


Death Certificate for Nancy Margaret Johnson b. 14 Jan 1856 in Indiana names her as the daughter of Frank Prater born in Ky. & mother maiden name Barr born in Indiana. Her place of death is given as Reeve Twp., Daviess Co., Indiana. Nancy Margaret was buried at Mt. Zion Cemetery (located in Alfordsville, Reeve Twp., daviess Co., Indiana. July 1937. https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/60716/45232_356199-01104/2987743?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/102354032/person/340134283598/facts This link is in the online Ancestry.com page for Indiana, Death Certificates, 1899-2011 for Nancy Margaret Jackson.

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Added by Marlene L. Thompson on Aug 22, 2017 10:37 AM
John M. Frey
RE: Clement Sauer
On Google Books, Lawrence County,IL page 303. 2 paragraphs titled Clement And Dorothey Sauer. Found it searching "Andrew Sauer" Vincennes.
Added by John M. Frey on Aug 19, 2017 2:13 PM
Theresa Reyling
RE: Barbara Ann Fleck
Allen, yes this is my sister. Thank you.
Added by Theresa Reyling on Aug 14, 2017 1:24 PM
Rosalie
Barr
Thanks so much for the transfer! I appreciate your kindness.
Added by Rosalie on Aug 12, 2017 7:35 AM
Shane
RE: George J Schepers
You're welcome.
Added by Shane on Aug 09, 2017 9:29 AM
Shane
RE: George J Schepers
Hi Allen, It was from the WWI Draft Record

George John Schepers
in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
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Name: George John Schepers
[George John Schafers]
Race: White
Birth Date: 3 Feb 1880
Residence Place: Dubois, Indiana, USA
Physical Build: Medium
Height: Tall
Hair Color: dark
Eye Color: blue
Relative: Theresia Schepers
Added by Shane on Aug 08, 2017 11:47 PM
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