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Stacey Shaw (#47914361)
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Please don't hesitate to send corrections, info or to even ask for a transfer. My goal on this site is to help other people with their ancestry and unite the memorials I've created with their families regardless of relation link. I don't hoard my memorials and will usually transfer anyone not related to me.

PHOTO REQUESTORS: I enjoy helping families by completing photo requests. Help me to help you. Please take the time to contact the cemetery to get the detailed burial info (Section, Block, Lot, or however it's marked) prior to submitting your request. Whether or not they have a headstone is also extremely helpful.

I love this site but this is one point I find very frustrating. The last few years I've been spending most of my time in Oakridge-Glen Oak cemetery in Hillside, IL. It currently has well over 50,000 burials and 400+ photo requests that contain no plot info for the photo volunteer. How do you expect someone to find and get a pic of your loved one when they don't know where to start looking?

NOTE: Please don't assume that all cemeteries have a public database to look up the info. There are a lot that don't yet. Oakridge doesn't have one and the office staff is not helpful to photo volunteers. They only give info to family members.

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FAMILY INFO & BIO

The Surnames I'm connected to so far are Shaw, Spafford, Briggs, Pennington, Maser or Masear, Pritchard, Hardy, Shoemaker, Kerwin, Boice or Boyce, Simmons, Dishman, Baird and Reed.
Please don't hesitate to contact me if you may have info about my family tree. Even the smallest bit could help solve a mystery and close a door....which then, as we all know, usually opens up 3 more LOL.

My third great grandparents, James Shaw and Eleanor Hardy, were early settlers in Joliet, Illinois. They came from New York or Canada and resided in the Bremen, Cook County area (1850 census) before moving to Joliet. Shortly after arriving in town, my grandmother died in March, 1852. I found her death notice in the Joliet Signal and it indicates they had only been in town a few months. My Grandpa James had 14 children; 11 with my Grandmother. They were married about 18 years at the time of her death. Her final resting place and the names of her parents are unknown. Their Canadian marriage record says that there was a Nicolas Hardy who witnessed but I haven't yet been able to determine the specific relationship.

After my grandmother's death, my grandfather married Alice Williams in October, 1852. (I also have a copy of the handwritten document.) Per the 1860 census, they had two children - Firman and Alice. In 1870, the two children still appear in the household with my grandfather but wife Alice does not. What happened to her and her final resting place are unknown. I lose track of daughter Alice after 1870 and Firman died in early December, 1872, about 6 weeks before James.

I'm also certain my grandfather was married once before he married my grandmother. From the 1850 census record, James had a son, James Jr. born abt 1829, whose birth pre-dates his marriage by banns to my grandmother in 1834. My assumption is that he was married to James, Jr's mother, whose name is unknown, and that she probably died either in child birth or of sickness. By 1860, he no longer resides with his father and I lose track of him.

My 4th Great Grandfather's name was Joseph who was a Wagonmaster per the 1860 census, the lone document where I found have found his name. In addition, per the same census, he was residing alone in the household with his son James, which means he was probably widowed by that time. My 4th Great Grandmother Shaw's name and their final resting places are unknown.

My grandfather was an intelligent man and expert Brickmaker. Sometime in the mid 1850's, James started a successful brick company on the Eastside of Joliet. All of his sons had learned the trade, but only Silas and Josiah (or J.E. as he seemed to go by) continued the business and operated it long after his death in January, 1873. My grandfather rests at Oakwood Cemetery in Joliet, with two of his sons, Nicholas (Mother Eleanor) and Firman (Mother Alice). His son Silas and his family also rest nearby in the same section. I descend down thru one of James's younger sons, Isaac Shaw who married Mary Maser (or Masear) in 1869 in Indiana. They are also buried in Oakwood cemetery, Joliet, IL.
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LoveHistory
RE: Lillian M. Rinkenberger
Your welcome, I'm glad you posted the obit on the memorial.
Added by LoveHistory on Jul 27, 2017 1:42 PM
RamblinRose
Wangrow marker
Thanks so much for taking the time to get these photos for me.

Added by RamblinRose on Jul 26, 2017 11:08 AM
Teresa Finn
RE: I found two of them
Thanks S. I really appreciate it. There is no hurry -- it's been almost 90+years. Keep thinking of some thing I can do for you here in Northern California please!

Bests,
tmf
Added by Teresa Finn on Jul 24, 2017 10:06 PM
Pam
Henry L. Speckhart #140311013
Hi, Stacey. You transferred Henry's wife, Lizzie Meyer, to me awhile back. Henry is her husband and my 2nd Great Grandfather. Would you please consider transferring Henry to be as well?
I appreciate your help.
Thank you,
Pam Pribble
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Added by Pam on Jul 21, 2017 3:30 PM
Teresa Finn
RE: I found two of them
First -- thank you so much. And then: dammit! They weren't given headstones! I can't believe it. I am waiting on Alice's death certificate so maybe that will explain something -- but something went terribly awry in this family. These were religious people of some means who should have followed up on this -- they had years to do that -- and relatives and offspring -- but Frances and Alice were forgotten.

Do people ever post pictures of stoneless plots at Find A Grave? Is that acceptable? If so, if you ever go back to that area, would it be possible to get photos of the "spaces"?

Also, not to ask TOO many questions, do you have any idea how much grave markers cost?

I contacted, for the first time ever yesterday , a cousin, one of Alice's grandson's in Wisconsin. He admitted that there was something not right about his grandmother's death. The family never spoke of her. He had no idea what happened or where she is buried. He knew nothing about the missing boy either . .. so not only is there work to be done, but there is something there . . .

S, thank you so much for listening to me. I do hope I can help you with something!
Added by Teresa Finn on Jul 14, 2017 9:20 AM
Teresa Finn
RE: I found two of them
Also I don't have any record of a William Smith - or anyone by the name of Farrand. My great-grandmother remarried a Luke Smith-- so the Smith name isn't something I've explored too much, except to discover that her 2nd husband (the Smith) came out here to California after her death. He lived not far from here and is buried here w/ his later wife (2nd? 3rd? who knows?). I find this peculiar too .. . why did he come out here? Did my grandmother know her stepfather lived here too? Lotsa secrets. My dad and sister were "mum" on all of this.

I wish I could help you find your missing person. I could spend all my time doing this work.

Bests,tmf
Added by Teresa Finn on Jul 12, 2017 9:33 AM
Teresa Finn
RE: I found two of them
Stacey, You're the best. Thank you for caring and trying. I so appreciate it.

Is it possible that there aren't headstones for my great -grandmother and great aunt? The family was such a mess that it is possible.

Marna in the cemetery office had zero problem finding them in the records so they are accounted for that way -- and I have Frances's death certificate (am waiting on Alice's) -- so they are there but it is likely and possible that no one had the money or inclination to mark their graves. Oh, that makes me sad too. My grandmother tore all the pictures of her own mother (Frances) out of dad's baby book. Her mother-in-law stayed in -- but not her mom . .. so I am imagining the worst.

Keep dry! What I wouldn't give today for some rain. Honestly.

Thank you again.
tmf
Added by Teresa Finn on Jul 12, 2017 9:26 AM
Teresa Finn
RE: I found two of them
Oh S! I am so excited. Thank you. I tossed and turned all night trying to imagine these lives and what happened -- so much death and unhappiness -- and no stories handed down, just me chipping away.

The problem with "the boy" is that his name gets reported incorrectly in the Aurora Newspaper obiturary-- "Mason" not his real name Nathan. But where he is buried? He grew up in Aurora, dies in San Antonio TX, father escapes to Glenville New York, mother remarries and lives in Chicago -- she and two older sisters are buried there at Oakridge, other surviving sisters leave the area . .. where is he?

My tree is open at Ancestry if you want to take a look and have other ideas about him.

The thought of him buried alone somewhere is really disturbing, even to this modern person.

Thanks for listening to me. tmf
Added by Teresa Finn on Jul 11, 2017 9:37 AM
Teresa Finn
I found two of them
Hi S! I called Oakridge-Glen Oak Cemetery this morning and got super attention and help from a Marna. She found my great-grandmother's grave and her oldest daughter's as well, my great-aunt.

They are buried in the same area:

Frances Smith: Section 23, Lot 533, Grave #2 (1930)
Alice Shanahan: Section 23, Lot 533, Grave #1 (1920)

Unfortunately we did not find the little boy who died in 1910.

Another older sister is there Henrietta Turney, buried w/ her husband. She died in 1910 and in news coverage her death is said to be the cause of her little brother's death a few weeks later. I'd think he'd be there too . . .but? We didn't find him.

There are pictures of Henietta's grave on Find A Grave w/ her husband Thomas:they are in Section 23, Lot 555, graves 1 &2.

Anyway, if there is someone (you?) who can take photos of Frances and Alice's graves and post them, I would be thrilled.

If you've any ideas about where the younger brother might be, I am open.

Any graves you need hunted down in NorCal?

Thanks, tmf
Added by Teresa Finn on Jul 10, 2017 12:57 PM
Teresa Finn
RE: Oakridge-Glen Oak Cemetery
Hi S! Thank you for your generous reply. I think I called once and didn't have much luck but now with your detailed approach, I will try again. Sounds like I should rehearse what I have to say. I'll start w/ Frances because I have her death certificate (also quite a feat to get from Cook County!). Two of her daughters are buried there -- and maybe, just maybe the missing son, but there is so much confusion and pain involved (one can feel it through the years) -- who knows?

I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope I can contact you soon for pictures! I wish I weren't so far away.

Thanks again. tmf
Added by Teresa Finn on Jul 09, 2017 11:04 AM
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