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Pat Joubert (#46981160)
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Bio Photo I have been researching my genealogy since 1999. My family search includes cemeteries in San Antonio, Tarpley, Bandera, Utopia, Coryell County, and the surrounding areas. I can't get to my Louisiana family very much, but I do try to research them as much as possible.
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Flying L
Oh yes, that would be wonderful if you can sent me the two newspaper articles. In my research on the internet, not all the years around the opening are available to search. Not sure if you saw the article but there was an article by Zeke MacCormack in the San Antonio Express-News on the front page on Thurs., Jan. 12, 2017, that said that the Texas Historical Commission planned to take a closer look at whether Frank Lloyd Wright actually designed the buildings at the Flying L Ranch. The article was titled, "The Wright stuff: Does Flying L have it?" and was in the lower left hand corner. I had seen and read your memorial for Jack on Find A Grave in my research and had thought that I would try to contact you in regards as to where you had found your sources but had just not gotten to it yet. It is really amazing that I stumbled into you when I transferred Bill's memorial to you. Very often in my research I have been fortunate to receive unexpected finds when I have shared some of my research with others.

In connection to the Texas Historical Commission research, I think it would be extremely beneficial to have a letter stating your grandparent's employment/positions at the ranch, their years of employment there, and your mother's knowledge of the building being Frank Lloyd Wright look alikes also.

Can't tell you how excited my friend in Bandera will be to hear about your grandparents and the articles.

My email address is

Thanks so much, In memory

Added by In memory on Feb 15, 2017 1:05 PM
Angie Hertzberg Martin
Upside Down Pictures
Hey, Pat! Got your emails on the two pics that you're seeing upside down. I can assure you that they weren't uploaded like that.

I went and looked at them on my IPad and they looked upside down there. Then I went and looked at them on my computer and they're right side up.

What I've found is that different devices do this but computers are generally correct.

I didn't turn them over because they're not really upside down :)

Thanks for the help!
Added by Angie Hertzberg Martin on Feb 15, 2017 11:28 AM
In memory
Part of what I think I remember is that he was a repeat offender and when he got out of prison he came back and was living at his parent's/mother's house. The sheriff's department found a well-worn path between his family's property and Denise's trailer, he apparently had been stalking her for a long time. I cannot, to this day, think about her death without remembering the horrific ways he tortured her. I was working across the street from the courthouse when the trial occurred and everyone was extremely upset with the D.A. for not wording the charges correctly so he could get the death penalty. I know some men that had to really contain themselves to not kill the guy when they saw him in the courtroom.
I haven't lived in Bandera for a long time, have heard the last names but really did not know your grandparents. I am interested that you said that they ran the Flying L and worked for Mr. Lapham. I was just doing some research on both the ranch and Jack Lapham last night. I don't know if you have heard anything about the historical marker that the new owners just recently placed at the ranch saying that the buildings were designed by Frank Lloyd Wright? There is quite a controversy going as to weather or not he really did. A firm in San Antonio that designed "in his style" are the ones that officials say designed the ranch--and a former employee of that firm remembers that they did also. Have you ever heard anything about him in the past being the designer of the Flying L? All the newspaper articles that I can find from the time around the development and grand opening of the ranch do not mention him at all. He was already quite famous at that time so you would think that would have been something that the papers would have really run with!?!
...Just funny how life works...would never have thought that I would find someone that had family connections to the ranch the very next day after my never know. :) In memory
Added by In memory on Feb 13, 2017 7:57 PM
In memory
Bill Walker
You are welcome. I am not a numbers person here, always like to pass along a memorial to a family member, even distant, that can add info to the memorials and will take good care of them.

Bill's daughter, Denise, lived next to us for a short time when she first started teaching in Bandera before she bought a trailer house and lived back on their ranch. Her murder really hit the community extremely hard. So very sad, the murderer took away a shinning light in our small town when he took her innocent and promising life. He comes up for parole ever few years, it would be horrible for him to ever be released. I pray that he isn't. Denise is still remembered with loving thoughts and memories by folks in Bandera even now.

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Added by In memory on Feb 13, 2017 2:30 PM
Laura V
Julia Gentry 127629546
Hi Pat,

Are you related to the Gentry family that you sent edits about? If so, I'd be glad to transfer Julia and Elvn to your care. I am not related - just walking the cemetery and taking photos. I also have some other Gentry memorials in that same cemetery. I do not know how they are related. If you are interested let me know.

Laura V.
Added by Laura V on Sep 19, 2016 11:30 AM
Britany Alachniewicz Johnson
RE: Melvin Clark
I transferred the memorial to you.
Added by Britany Alachniewicz John... on Sep 10, 2016 2:44 PM
Britany Alachniewicz Johnson
Melvin Clark
Hi Pat, I received your edit for Melvin. Are you related to him? If so, I would be happy to transfer his memorial to you.
Added by Britany Alachniewicz John... on Sep 09, 2016 1:34 PM
Karen M
RE: photos

I tried to send you an email but it did not go thru

can u please email me at


Added by Karen M on Sep 07, 2016 4:39 PM
Karen M

I have some more photos for you, but the Find A Grave Memorial has reached its maximum of 5 photos

Please let me know if you want these photos, and where to email them

Added by Karen M on Sep 06, 2016 12:20 PM
Alexander Blunt relative
Hi, Alexander's daughter Martha was my mother's grandmother. I only have the internet to guide my research. Do you have access to other sources? Thanks, Margaret
Added by Margaret on Aug 10, 2016 8:18 PM
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