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sr/ks (#46847659)
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Bio Photo First, my deepest thanks to those who have kept my spirits up by being supportive friends and who have honored my dear ones so faithfully.

I still find myself trying to focus on the theme of rebirth, and trying to shake the gloom of close losses in the past few years.

Our Romberger Family Association founder, the gent who found our original immigrant ancestor and his family home in Germany, a friend and genealogical mentor has passed. Thank you if you can honor Dr. John A. Romberger. The day we laid Dr. John to rest, another Doctor left us - my dear godfather, Dr. Edwin R. Baldrige. Since then my silversmith teacher, some of my favorite school teachers, and guiding figures from my church have also passed. It sort of feels like my mentors are all taking flight.

I'm finding using the site difficult right now. Some people have found it very therapeutic after a loss. Unfortunately, it has the opposite effect on me; I see all the losses of my fellow contributors, and it makes me feel terrible. I see your now-gone loved ones, and in a small way I re-live the loss of my loved ones. I think my feelings are still too close to the surface to be so easily stirred.

If you have a moment, would you kindly visit Randall Buckley? This is our friend Paula's brother.

If you are wondering whom else to visit, perhaps you'd kindly look in on my dearest.

If you have a moment, would you please send prayers to fellow contributor Ann H?

And if you have another moment, please consider leaving a token for our fellow contributor, White Light.

Picture use: You are welcome to use pictures for personal use, but I do NOT consent for their use online or on commercial or paid sites. FindAGrave is about sharing what you know, and I will not have my good will co-opted and monetized. I saw some of my pics stolen from here and put on and I am taking action to correct this.

Transfers and suggestions: Forgive me, but experience has been a harsh teacher. I used to be very cool about transferring, but I've had about enough of being easy about this. I'll gladly transfer the memorials of anyone not related or without meaning to me in a heartbeat, and I have hundreds to give away. But on family, I'm adopted, working on both birth and adopted families. I have a lot of family to cover, possibly double the size of yours, and I have not articulated my relationship to the subject of every memorial for privacy reasons. Rather than quibble, I would be gladder still to improve a memorial with your suggestions sent via SAC. Let's do the right thing and make the memorial accurate, suitable and a reflection of that person's life. You can put the improved memorial in a "virtual cemetery" without needing ownership of it, as I have done with relatives that other contributors have added to the site. I can add links or the info you wish, and you are welcome to add pictures.

On the other hand, if the memorial is one I have added by chance or the subject is no one related to me or is one to whom I have no attachment, I will offer to transfer instantly.

FindAGrave memorials are online representations of real graves, not trading cards. I don't collect them for numbers and am frankly relieved to see them go to family if they have no connection and meaning to me. There are relatives of mine another contributor has memorialized on the site that I do not "own" and have not asked for, content that I have added the info I have, and linked them to their kin.

"Many African societies divide humans into three categories; those still alive on earth, the sasha, and the zamani. The recently departed whose time on earth overlapped with people still here are the sasha, the living-dead. They are not wholly dead, for they still live in the memories of the living, who can call them to mind, create their likeness in art, and bring them to life in anecdote. When the last person to know an ancestor dies, that ancestor leaves the sasha for the zamani, the dead. As generalized ancestors, the zamani are not forgotten but revered. Many can be recalled by name. But they are not living-dead. There is a difference." -- from "Lies My Teacher Told Me" by James Loewen

So perhaps the progression of the living to the sasha to the zamani cannot be helped, but we record here those we knew, both sasha and zamani, and leave some record of them. And if they are sashas to us, perhaps our record keeps them sashas longer as we offer our first hand accounts of them.

It bothers me that time passes, because I sense my friends and family members moving out of sight as they pass through the celestial plan, or whatever you like to call it. I am just conscious that our grip on those we know and love is constantly eroding. I think this is why I have been drawn to FindAGrave; I can't stop people from dying, but I can stop them from being forgotten, and can see the lives of people other contributors feel the same about, those they don't want to shift out of focus as time clouds memories and people who knew others pass on. Here, at least, we can freeze them in time and recount all that made them good or special.

Your visits to my loved ones mean a lot to me. They mean my folks here are not forgotten, and honor people I really loved or respected or took the time to research, so thank you. I enjoy honoring people remembered on Find a Grave, and do take the time to read bio info on memorials. I appreciate knowing about the people other folks want remembered.

Every memorial entered here has been done with respect and good intent, in the hopes dear ones will not be forgotten. Any concerns, additions and so on are most welcome here on this page.
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RE: Hello, a proposal
Good morning:

I'll try to find out what Fresno County might have in the way of burial records and let you know. I have added Clarence's mugshot to your memorial. Please feel free to add anything you'd like from the bio we had posted before.

Yes, "restored" means he violated probation and was sent back.

Added by EDHGS on Feb 17, 2017 1:12 PM
RE: Hello, a proposal
Good morning:

Sorry it has taken me so long to respond.

The Folsom Prison Cemetery was quite a project (over 560 memorials). Many of the tombstones were chiseled by inmates. According to the current museum director, Jim Brown, some stones were intentionally mis-chiseled if the prisoner was not "liked" by fellow inmates. Indian Jess and Clarence Ettinger was one of the hardest determinations I had to make. I have recently received the Folsom Prison death register dating back to 1879. I CANNOT locate Clarence Ettinger anywhere around the 1909 timeframe. However, I do find Indian Jess dying on June 17, 1909 in Sacramento County. So unfortunately, I believe Clarence Ettinger is not in Folsom Prison Cemetery and the actual burial is that of Indian Jess (the stone is correct). Sorry to have misled you. I really enjoyed reading your memorial on Mr. Ettinger-what a difference a few bad choices can make. Clarence Ettinger was definitely in Folsom Prison, but I believe he was paroled and died elsewhere. I will correct the Folsom Prison Cemetery burials and remove Clarence Ettinger.

Phillip Gray, EDHGS
Added by EDHGS on Feb 17, 2017 11:07 AM
Charlene Adams
RE: Permar inquiry
I have not come across any Permar/Starkey or Storey connections at this time. I assume Hannah was the younger sister although I don't even know the name of Mary Elizabeth's parents.
Added by Charlene Adams on Feb 02, 2017 10:35 AM
Denise Ommert
RE: a query
Hello. I am sorry to say that Thera's site is no longer in use. I don't know why. I have looked into the matter and can't get a straight answer.

I don't know if this site will help you or not. It's the only other place I know where some of her work is.

If you are looking for someone I may be able to assist you. Please contact me at

I look forward to hearing from you.
Denise Ommert
Added by Denise Ommert on Jan 31, 2017 3:02 PM
L Fields May
RE: Ettingers
California Youth Authority
Name Index

Registers and some case files are available for wards of Whittier State School (18911930), Preston School of Industry (18941914), and Ventura School for Girls (19071931). The processed records of the California Youth Authority are described in the California Youth Authority finding aid. For more information about records for specific wards found in the name index below, please contact the Reference Desk.
Last Name First Name ID# School Year
Ettinger Clarence 1470 Whittier 1900
Ettinger Clarence 0679 Preston 1905
Added by L Fields May on Jan 25, 2017 8:47 AM
L Fields May
RE: Ettingers
Thanks for the kind GGGGrandfather was Return (Retwin) Jonas Ettinger from PA, they ended up settling in Leavenworth KS. I have done a lot of Ettinger research if I can help in anyway with your Ettinger quest please let me know! BTW your memorial to Clarence was quite touching and obviously you did a lot of research on him~
Added by L Fields May on Jan 24, 2017 2:34 PM
L Fields May
Clarence Ettinger
Hi I am doing family research my GGGrandmother was an Ettinger from KS..I came across 2 listings for a Clarence Ettinger...wondering if they are one and the same Clarence Ettinger??? 167509864 & 124783552 are the 2 memorials I am asking about! Thanks
Added by L Fields May on Jan 23, 2017 1:26 PM
Tom Myers
RE: Hello, a question for you
Almont and Schlichter's both refer to Jerusalem Union Cemetery, Almont, Rockhill Twp, Bucks Co.
Added by Tom Myers on Jan 19, 2017 4:21 PM
Carole R
Hannah Adair
Hannah Adair Prosser is buried at
Cold Point Baptist Church Cemetery
Plymouth Meeting
Montgomery County
Pennsylvania, USA

with her grandmother Hannah McCool Warburton and second husband. There is another memorial here in Find a Grave that has a picture. I also have a copy of her funeral card if you are interested but am not sure how to get it to you. My research has not found any children either.
Added by Carole R on Nov 15, 2016 8:00 PM
email about John W Merkert
Hi, I got your public message saying you would email me about John and Lorenz Merkert, but never received the email itself. Can you resend?
Added by AnnaL on Nov 13, 2016 7:26 PM
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