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Marcialyn (#47391825)
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Bio Photo Although I am not a famous person (that I know of), I have famous people in my family. My brother Bill, was the drummer for the music group the Grateful Dead, and my mother's father was Clark Shaughnessy, the football coach. (This photo is of my mother, Janice Shaughnessy.)

!!PS-If I submit additional data to a memorial you manage, and you choose to post/add it, please DO NOT attribute my name-I AM JUST A LOWLY STAGEHAND IN THE WINGS.
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"It feels kind of like a sacred calling, honoring all of the lives that came before us."-Kendra Anderson daughter of Gale Marshall (nee Hartley) Anderson, step-sister.
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~~~SAN FRANCISCO RESEARCH~~~
For research in the San Francisco area, I highly recommend the SFGenealogy website, where there are nooks and crannies stuffed with information. The site includes the surrounding counties as well.

~~SF-A genealogist's nightmare
All cemeteries (except Mission Delores) within the city limits were eventually moved elsewhere-mostly to San Mateo County, which now has the distinction of having more dead people than living. This newspaper article marks the beginning of the end of San Francisco's burial grounds:
TWO VOTE MARGIN KILLS CEMETERIES
SACRAMENTO, April 17.óWith the bare margin of only two more votes than the number required to carry the group of acts known as the "San Francisco cemetery removal bills" was passed by the senate late this afternoon after a debate lasting several hours. The final roll call showed 23 ayes and 11 noes, with six senators absent or not voting. The purpose of the bills is to provide a legal method for removing the bodies from the cemeteries of pioneer days, and which now are in the midst of the growing city. ... Senator Campbell, Juilliard, Shanahan and Curtin spoke against the bills.
--SF Call, Vol. 113, No. 139, 18 April 1913,p.7

CEMETERIES HAVE RIGHTS
A. J. Gunnison Declares It Is the Work of Rivals in San Mateo County.
The petition now before the Supervisors asking that the cemeteries in this City be practically closed was branded yesterday by A. J. Gunnison, the venerable president of Laurel Hill Cemetery, as an attempt on the part of "designing persons interested in a new burial place in San Mateo County" to hurt an institution belonging by all right to the people of San Francisco in the interest of a private enterprise.
Mr. Gunnison talked as one overcome with contempt and disgust at the proceedings, ...
"We organized under the rural cemetery act of California," he said, "and that gives us the right for all time to have a cemetery. So where can a local Board of Supervisors come in and control us in any way? Every dollar received for land sold to lot owners has been spent on the cemetery ó first for the land itself, then for beautifying the grounds. I have been over twenty years president of Laurel Hill Cemetery and never received a cent for my work as an officer. The cemetery is for the benefit Of the people of San Francisco. After thirty or forty years we have paid for all the land and now every dollar received goes to beautifying the grounds. ... " A man named Noble, ... buys a tract of land down somewhere in San Mateo County and opens a cemetery. These people "who own this burial place are not like usó ...
"The City and County of San Francisco sold to the Laurel Hill Cemetery Association this identical property for $28,000, which sum was paid to the City by us. The City deeded the land to the cemetery for all time as a 'rural cemetery' under the State law. ... "Does San Francisco wish that to go down to posterity as the honesty of the men now in office in San Francisco? And for the simple purpose of enabling stock speculators in an outside cemetery to make money? ...
"Does your association propose to defend itself legally?" ... I do not propose to spend money to fight it if the City and County of San Francisco will sanction their Supervisors' act to destroy the very deeds which were given by the City for the benefit of the people, and for which the City was paid an enormous price. We shall not step in and place ourselves in the position to spend individual money to prevent the disgrace to rest upon the City, believing we have done our duty. That means, if the City of San Francisco wishes to ruin the name of the City of San Francisco let the people themselves ruin it. ...
--San Francisco Call, Vol. 79, No. 47, 16 Jan. 1896

SON OF NAPOLEON SLEEPS IN GRAVE IN LAUREL HILL
Scion of "Little Corporal" by His English Affinity Came to San Francisco as a Jeweler and His Neglected Tomb Occupies Obscure Corner in the Cemetery.
Curator Barron and Other Speakers Tell Members of Outdoor Art League at Monument to Senator Broderick Honored Dead Shall Not Be Molested

In an obscure corner of Laurel Hill cemetery is a neglected grave, unmarked, quite like hundreds of others in the same tract, yet this one holds the body of a son of Napoleon BONAPARTE, conqueror of Europe. Prof. George Barron, curator of the museum in Golden Gate park, surprised several hundred members of the Outdoor Art league ...
Since Napoleon's death historians of French government have acknowledged the birth of this son of their former leader and have pointed out that he was born soon after Napoleon was sent to St. Helena, and that he died in San Francisco and was buried in Laurel Hill. ..
--San Francisco Call, Volume 113, Number 100, 10 March 1913
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--------Family Summary-----------
We were a part of the "Germans to America" wave although a bit late-1886 was the immigration year of my great grandfather, Dr. Henrich Josef Kreutzmann from Frankfurt am Main, Germany to San Francisco via the 'Gellert'. As I add names to the tree, I've noticed frequent Irish-German connections. My best guess why is that both like their ale and naturally become drinking buddies :).
My Family Tree can be found at Rootsweb World Connect Project-
The San Francisco Kreutzmanns.
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Jack Buddeke
Bill Kreutzman
What a gift to come across this site. My father and Bill were close friends for quite a while in Palo Alto. I remember going to Yosemite with Big Bill and Billy and going to barbecues at the house he had with Gayle. I would visit him in his apartment by the Palo Alto drive in when he was studying for the bar and then later at his place in Carmel. He was a godsend to my brother Joe who struggled with addiction and Bill really looked out for him and mentored him as did Billy for which I am forever grateful. I would love to share more information if possible and again thank you for this. Jack Buddeke
Added by Jack Buddeke on Mar 20, 2017 2:26 PM
Louis Roth
RE: August Warnecke-no stone
happy to help .... take care!
Added by Louis Roth on Mar 15, 2017 10:03 AM
E. Sweeney
RE: Frank Shaughnessey Cypress Lawn
Yes, you, I and Louis all must have joined around the same time.

For California newspapers, try:

https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc

The San Francisco paper seems to have stopped printing obits around WWI, and isn't digitized after that, but sometimes the Marin papers will have something about people with a tie to that area.

It can be pretty tedious with a common name or one easily misspelled but some real gems in there...

Regards,
Elaine
Added by E. Sweeney on Mar 10, 2017 9:48 AM
Louis Roth
RE: McCammon photo request
hey thanks!!!
Added by Louis Roth on Mar 09, 2017 8:29 PM
E. Sweeney
Lee Roberts Cypress Lawn
FYI, replaced his page 87649843 with page 177150843 as I realized after some research he really deserved a "famous" tag.

Regards,
Elaine
Added by E. Sweeney on Mar 09, 2017 5:51 PM
E. Sweeney
RE: Frank Shaughnessey Cypress Lawn
On little Frank, maybe an error by census person, or maybe they changed his name, or maybe he is William Franklin?

Cypress Lawn does show two Williams in that plot.

Regards,
Elaine
Added by E. Sweeney on Mar 09, 2017 2:17 PM
E. Sweeney
RE: Frank Shaughnessey Cypress Lawn
Look here for Cypress Lawn info:

www.cypresslawn.com

Use "Genealogy Search:" in upper right.
Usually it is easiest to search by last name, then look for others with the same plot number.

They are transcribed from handwritten records so there are lots of spelling errors. "Myrtice" turns into "Myrtle" for example.

This will also give you the correct plot locations, as many many findagrave at Cypress Lawn have the wrong thing.

Even the Cypress Lawn search doesn't have all occupants, though whether it is that all the records are not transcribed yet or spelling errors, I don't know.


Regards,
Elaine
Added by E. Sweeney on Mar 09, 2017 2:15 PM
E. Sweeney
John and Jennie Martin, Cypress Lawn
The only marker in the Martin lot is for Maud Thomsen Martin (lower right).

Regards,
Elaine
Added by E. Sweeney on Mar 08, 2017 10:23 PM
E. Sweeney
Mary Mails Cypress Lawn
The first name on the stone is
Angeline V Donigan.

The last line for Mrs. Mails is
Native of Virginia.

Regards,
Elaine
Added by E. Sweeney on Mar 08, 2017 10:06 PM
E. Sweeney
Frank Shaughnessey Cypress Lawn
He is buried in the family plot but does not have his own marker. The other names in the plot are:

Alyce Arentz
Papa d. 1904
Mama d. 1937
Lee S. Roberts
Frank 1883-1900
Myrtice Savage

Regards,
Elaine
Added by E. Sweeney on Mar 08, 2017 9:55 PM
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