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cataholic4ever (#46531689)
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Since 2009 I have been working on preserving the Greenwood Cemetery.

I have been going through the cemetery stone by stone trying to physically place all the graves. I'm also trying to add names to the stones that are unreadable, which is very very hard! Sometimes I find a stone which just says mother or father even

I have been going through obituaries, church records, cemetery books, county birth records, funeral home records, and death records just trying to make sure every one is found and taken care of.

The Greenwood cemetery is done. There maybe the occasional found ancestor in the obits or death certs, but all the photos (Except for recent burials like 2013 to 2017) have been taken of every stone I could find.





1) I am now asking for verification for any sac's sent to me. Unfortunately there have been to many people who have sent me sac's over one memorial and they are contradictory. Then the people get angry with me over information in the memorial. So please send verification for your edits or they won't be approved.



2) If you are within the FAG guidelines I will GLADLY transfer too.




3) FAG Rules Regarding Submitting Information / Creating Memorials



Can I add an obituary to my interment listing?


Please do NOT add photographs from obituary notices (unless you, personally took the photo), as they are protected by copyright law. Find A Grave reserves the right to remove obituary notices and photographs from memorial records. Similarly, you may NOT scan an obituary and add it as a photograph to a memorial record.




4) FAG Rules regarding duplicates:

** If you find a memorial has been added but has incomplete or incorrect information, instead of creating a duplicate memorial you should use the tools provided to submit corrections, additions or a transfer request via the "Suggest A Correction" link under the 'Edit' tab on the upper right of the memorial. YOU SHOULD NEVER DELIBERATELY CREATE A DUPLICATE MEMORIAL.



5) FAG guidelines regarding photos:

** Not obtaining permission before using others photos is a violation of copyright law and is against Find A Grave policy.

I found a photo of a relative on Find A Grave, can I use it?

Photos posted to memorials on Find A Grave are copyrighted by the member who submitted the photos. Lifting the photo to use elsewhere would be a violation of copyright. You must obtain written permission from the member to use any photo for your own use. In general if you did not take the photo yourself, you do not hold the copyright to the photo.

ALSO

"I don't want to submit my information and then see it for sale here or on another site. Will Find A Grave always remain a free site?

Find A Grave has been around for over ten years. Our stated goal has always been to remain a free site for everyone. We have no plans on changing that. Additionally, we claim no copyright or 'ownership' of any photos that are posted to Find A Grave. THEY REMAIN YOUR PROPERTY. If we were to turn evil and start charging people to view YOUR photos against your wishes, you would have every LEGAL RIGHT to demand that we remove them. But we're not planning on turning evil, so it shouldn't be an issue."





Please Do not copy, or post to any website,(Ex. Ancestry.com, Heritage.com, and such) any of the pictures that I've added to Find-a-Grave Memorials without getting my permission first thank you.




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Cindy Englan Wentz
RE: John Airhart 141819244
Thank you!!! What a sweetie you are. :)

Cindy
Added by Cindy Englan Wentz on May 23, 2017 7:17 PM
Cindy Englan Wentz
RE: John Airhart 141819244
You asked: What memorials is he related to?

LOL, oh my, I don't even know how to start backtracking and figuring that out. Lots of females, lots of surnames in hubby's family. I'll have to keep an eye out from here on and let you know. :)

Cindy

Added by Cindy Englan Wentz on May 23, 2017 2:41 PM
Cindy Englan Wentz
RE: John Airhart 141819244
Thank you :) And nasty notes from family members? Good grief. There's no call to be rude, *especially* on a memorial site. Yes, go ahead, send the snarly ones to me. I'll see if I can't neutralize that vinegar with a little honey.

Cheers to you and all the fine work you've done. WOW. I keep seeing you everywhere in hubby's family line. I'm sure you and I will be conversing again. Soon. LOL.

Cindy
Added by Cindy Englan Wentz on May 22, 2017 12:13 PM
Cindy Englan Wentz
John Airhart 141819244
Hi,

How do you want me to verify the SACs for John? It's one long, convoluted trail I've followed. My husband's cousin Emanuel Wentz married Mary Catherine Airhart. Much to my surprise, Emanuel's sister Philomela "Minnie" married Catherine's brother -- John Airhart! I could tell they were brothers by the death cert you posted. (very helpful, that cert. thank you :) Minnie died in 1884 and John remarried. I found his obit, if you'd like that. Unfortunately, it doesn't mention Minnie by name.

Their surnames are misspelled so many different ways: Wentz is Wance/Wantz. Airhart is Earhart, Eirhart, Erhard and a couple more I can't remember. Even so, I located 3 of their kids. Twasn't easy. Guess I'm just stubborn. LOL. Anyway, I'll start sending in edits and you let me know what you need. 'k? :)

Cheers,
Cindy
Added by Cindy Englan Wentz on May 19, 2017 4:46 PM
Nancy Thompson
Charles R. Shope/Irena Ida Baker
Let's face it! People just add info to memorials without checking anything - which makes our job to recheck everything that is sent to us. Many people like myself do not have the funds to purchase sites that would enhance our ability to make sure info is correct but how do we know that info is correct. Errors are made on death certificates, obituaries, etc. People who really care either check everything that is sent to them or take the info on faith. Incorrect info has been handed down for years and I cannot see that changing. Sending sources with every memorial created is a cumbersome job yet should be done. Of course, some people deny the memorial - not knowing anything about the person and ignore the sources. When I sent you the names, Charles R. Shope and Irena Ida (Baker) Shope, you questioned the 'R' and Ida. I create many memorials and I am sure there are errors but I do the best I can based on info I have access to. I had the death date correct on my FAMILY TREE for Charles R. Shope but not on the memorial - go figure!
Added by Nancy Thompson on May 09, 2017 7:30 AM
Nancy Thompson
Charles R. Shope/Irena Ida Baker
This was updated in 2016 by Mike's Genealogical Obsession Entries: 15237 Updated: 2016-10-31 13:43:03 UTC (Mon) Contact: Michael W. Pelter

Nancy
Added by Nancy Thompson on May 08, 2017 1:24 PM
Nancy Thompson
Bakers
ID: I121
Name: Irene Ida Baker
Sex: F
Birth: 23 OCT 1887 in Westmoreland Co., PA
Death: 26 MAR 1976 in Pennsylvania
Note:

Burial:
Greenwood Cemetery
Altoona
Blair County
Pennsylvania, USA
Plot: B



HintsAncestry Hints for Irene Ida Baker

1 possible matches found on Ancestry.com Ancestry.com


Father: John Henry Baker b: 02 APR 1856
Mother: Ida Marie Schaeffer b: 01 JUN 1855

Marriage 1 Charles R. Shope b: 01 JAN 1880 in Pennsylvania

Married: ABT 1904
Divorced: BEF 1930

Children

Has Children Maude Lucy Shope b: 17 FEB 1905 in Altoona, Blair Co., PA
Has Children Clara Louise Shope b: 15 AUG 1906 in Altoona, Blair Co., PA
Has No Children John Henry Shope b: 13 OCT 1907 in Altoona, Blair Co., PA
Added by Nancy Thompson on May 08, 2017 1:16 PM
Nancy Thompson
Charles R. Shope
Thank you for the nice message concerning verification of names, dates, etc. I know that passed down info is not always correct but I also do the best I can in doing a thorough check before I send something out. When I found the listing of siblings of Lucy (Skipper) and John Henry Shope from rootsweb.com, I automatically assumed the 'R' (middle name) was valid. Some people, like myself, do not belong to certain websites that allow us to check death certificates, etc. I find that sometimes a person has to act on faith alone. That is the reason we have edits with sources to back them up. I have a person on Find A Grave who declines EVERY memorial with sources to back up my edits. There are many people who go from cemetery to cemetery, take pictures of tombstones (which is OK) but then refuse to follow up on dates, b/d locations, etc, but refuse the edits with sources to prove info on that person. If you take a picture, then be open minded to accept the info I provide rather than just decline everything. After all, they did nothing but snap a picture. 95% of Find A Grave members are great people to work with but you have the 5% who make it miserable for everyone else just because they are more concerned about how many memorials they create rather than specifics on a person. Whatever you do concerning the 'R' in Charles Shope's name is OK by me.
Added by Nancy Thompson on May 08, 2017 12:49 PM
Maureen
Sarah Roberts
Thanks for transferring her.... I think!! LOL. I see that you removed all the notes you had on her memorial, including the e-mail address for the lady writing a book. You had a bit about her bio as well. I just wonder why you removed all information but it was yours to remove. Anyhow thanks again.
Added by Maureen on May 08, 2017 11:30 AM
Nancy Thompson
Charles R. Shope
Extracted from rootsweb.com. I would say that 90% of what is published in ancestry.com and rootsweb.com are correct but yet certain people need proof of everything. I take what people give me; if wrong, there is always someone who corrects the error. CHARLES R. SHOPE AND IRENA IDA (BAKER) are both listed on the below sheet. IRENA, not IRENE is annotated on the tombstone and that is what I base the correct name to be.

ID: I110
Name: Charles R. Shope
Sex: M
Birth: 01 JAN 1880 in Pennsylvania
Death: 26 JAN 1939 in Pennsylvania
Note:

1910 Census: Altoona City, Blair Co., PA
1920 Census: Altoona City, Blair Co., PA
1930 Census: Altoona City, Blair Co., PA

Burial:
Greenwood Cemetery
Altoona
Blair County
Pennsylvania, USA
Plot: B



HintsAncestry Hints for Charles R. Shope

4 possible matches found on Ancestry.com Ancestry.com


Father: John Henry Shope b: 01 JAN 1854 in Monroe Valley, Huntingdon Co., PA
Mother: Lucy Sophia Skipper b: 06 SEP 1857

Marriage 1 Irene Ida Baker b: 23 OCT 1887 in Westmoreland Co., PA

Married: ABT 1904
Divorced: BEF 1930

Children

Has Children Maude Lucy Shope b: 17 FEB 1905 in Altoona, Blair Co., PA
Has Children Clara Louise Shope b: 15 AUG 1906 in Altoona, Blair Co., PA
Has No Children John Henry Shope b: 13 OCT 1907 in Altoona, Blair Co., PA
Added by Nancy Thompson on May 07, 2017 10:26 PM
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