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Tree Leaf (#47481781)
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Bio Photo Send citations using the SAC (the blank box on the edit tab, as the FAQ states), when sending any edits.

I'm seeing this more and more often so please: Do not add (person) photos to pages I manage unless you also state in the caption that it is either public domain or that you had prior written permission. Please read the FAQ closely on this. Being on Ancestry isn't enough. You also need permission from the current copyright holder. Please be specific i.e. "from the collection of (name or user name "soandso from x website"), permission granted for this use."

Also please do NOT add biographical material into the caption of a photo, or into what should be a simple memorial flower. That is a sidestep of the edit process and a misuse of the caption and flower. Thank you. FAQ states not to put biographical data into a flower. I ask the same of captions. Please use the name on the page, or a simple sentimental message.

FAQ quote for the guideline for creating a burial unknown page: "Burials where the interment is unknown may be added using the 'Other' burial option, then 'recent death, location of body unknown'. Location of body unknown must be used for recent deaths where the disposition is not currently known. Final disposition must be determined and updated within 30 days."

FAQ quote: "In regard to duplicates, a memorial with a correct known burial location will always be preferred over an unknown burial location. A member has thirty days to update the memorial to the correct burial location on recent deaths."

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Now, as to the edit process itself:

The following are not citations *in and of themselves* : Someone else's tree; a website; a message board. Anything ending in dot com is not a citation in and of itself. A citation is a record, a document, a collection (by name), etc. Google isn't a citation. A website containing millions of people with millions of records and/or trees isn't a citation. It's a search engine.

If I ask for a source or a citation please be ready to provide one. There is really no reason to object to that. Genealogical material should be supported by genealogical citations. (The "Genealogical Proof Standard" is a valid aspiration.) Otherwise, it should be left at the interment information.

If you have read the FAQ you know what step 2 is after a decline; it's to provide a citation. The FAQ goes into more detail including "keep in mind that the manager may have differing information."

Please remember this is still primarily a site to index and/or find last disposition of remains. The genealogical component is secondary.

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Excerpts from the FAQ:

"The biography is to be about the person for which the memorial is made with preference to an original biography. If a cause of death is added, it is to be short and to the point, and as shown on the death certificate. The bio must not look like a case file. Graphic bios are not acceptable."

"What can I include in a non-famous bio? Genealogical data: Genealogical information about the subject can be included in the biography."

"How do I enter all married names for a woman's memorial when she was married more than once? The 'last name' is the name that is on the headstone. Include other married names as part of the biography section. The 'maiden name' is only for her maiden name."

"Where do you get your information? Our information comes from over 400,000 registered Find A Grave contributors."

"The photo area is ONLY to be used for photos of the person or their grave."

"How do I add a town that does not show on your database? If you need to use an historical location, reference it in the bio of either the cemetery or memorial in question. Townships, Town’s of, and Plantation’s of are another administrative level between counties and towns and we currently have no plans to add another level."

"Can I add a memorial from a newspaper obituary or other 3rd party source? Find A Grave does not discourage the legitimate indexing of the deceased through obituaries or other 3rd party accounts. Newspapers represent a very good source of information as a public record."

"What if I suggest a correction and the contributor doesn't respond? Have patience. Many contributors receive hundreds of corrections every month and it may take a while for your correction to be processed. Also, not every Find A Grave contributor is active on a daily basis on the site. Please send the source and documentation with your 'suggest a correction'."

Note from me: The (ominous sounding) "final option" referred to below means the blank box on the edit tab. This is also referred to as the "sixth option." The "blank box" is also more commonly referred to in member profiles as the "suggest a correction" box or "SAC." Please use this "SAC" to type in, to send your citations, sources, or additional information to be considered. You may also use this to send all your suggestions. Some members dislike this but I do not mind, as long as you also include the memorial page numbers in question if any. Please note the FAQ states you should give the page manager 30 days to implement or decline your SAC suggestions. By menu we have about 20 days. This is another reason I prefer to receive SAC suggestions, given the two choices. When it mentions email below, this refers to the site instantly forwarding SAC to the member's email. When people claim there is no way to reach members, it's clear they missed that section of the FAQ.

More excerpts from the FAQ:

"The first five options allow you to make the factual update to the memorial. Once this is submitted, the manager of the memorial will receive this information as an editing request and will either approve it or decline it.

The final option allows anything not handled by one of the first five options to be sent as an email message. Follow the instructions to submit your correction. An email will be sent to the contributor who manages the memorial page (even if that person does not have an email showing on their contributor page). Please limit the use of this option to no more than 20 email requests per contributor per week. Most of our contributors are unable to make updates on the same day a request is sent in.

If you have official documentation for the update but have been declined, please send the update again under "suggest any other correction or addition," adding source and documentation that proves the update. Please make every effort to contact the manager of the memorial page and keep in mind that the manager may have differing information."

"Additionally, biographical information and obituaries are not to be included in a virtual flower."

"Our Terms of Service allow for photos posted to Find A Grave to be posted elsewhere within the Ancestry Community, but they do not allow such photos to be posted on non-Ancestry websites or otherwise republished without the copyright holder’s permission. Copyright of photos posted to Find A Grave remains with the original copyright holder."

Notes from me:

The FAQ also includes suggestions or "do and don't" guidelines for improving the readability of a marker (in essence, don't touch the marker.) It is worth reading.

Please note that each member is only human, is sometimes indisposed, away on vacation, or simply did not see your request. Give the benefit of the doubt and apply the Golden Rule. Thanks in advance.
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