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|Terry (Todd) Ferl||Your beautiful photos|
Just to let you know I think your photos of Riverside Cemetery in Woodbury are very beautiful! Thank you!
|Dgrant||RE: Memorial @86853913, Mary's maiden name|
Added by Dgrant on Nov 14, 2016 9:16 AM
|Dgrant||Memorial @86853913, Mary's maiden name|
Mary Hollis was my 5th great grandmother. I have been working on her maiden name for some time, and I believe it was Trantham--definitely not Groom.
Here are my reasons:
Wife of John Hollis! I question that his wife was named Mary Groom.
1. Was she a Groom?
In trying to determine whether Mary's surname could have been Groom, I searched 1790 Census for North Carolina and found no Groom's. Only Groom's present in US in 1790 were 4 in Orangeburg, SC., 1 in MA, 6 in Albany NY, 1 in NY, NY, 1 in Bucks Co PA and 1 in Philadelphia. The possibility that she was a Groom seems very slim.
Found 1 Groom will in North Carolina, for a John Groom in 1888.
In family trees, found no Groom families with a Mary going back far enough in North Carolina--with the exception of totally unsourced Mary Groom without parents who supposedly married John Hollis.
The confusion may be traceable to "a" John Hollis - Mary Groom marriage in Baltimore County Maryland in 1749 when John was about 12 years old, and Mary (1750) wasn't born yet.
in Maryland Marriages, 1655-1850
Record Image No Image
Name: John Hollis
Marriage Date: 30 Jul 1749
Spouse: Mary Groom
Spouse Gender: Male
County: Baltimore County"
2. Was she a Trantham?
There are Trantham descendants of the 1710 Martin Trantham that claim that Mary was his daughter and had siblings Jeptha and Martin Trantham, which would appear to be correct, based on his will.
MartainTrantham/Trentham of Rowan Co NC in Will Book D, p. 120-122 made 15 Mar 1783 and proved 4 Aug 1783--names a son Martin by unnamed 1st wife (and thus could have been born by 1730)--doesn't designate any other children that way so she probably died young!), and doesn't name his 2nd wife, so apparently he outlived both of them--possibly fairly old [others have him born 1710 or earlier].. Martin also named a son Japtha Trentham, a daughter Margerry Trantham, a dau. Ann Trantham, and a dau. Mary Trentham; and apparently a second son named Martin. He required Jeptha to give Martin 35 pounds in gold or silver in five years and to give him a year of schooling, so apparently he was young. He appointed John Hollis and George Reed as his executors. [Note that executors were often part of the family.] Source of Will: "North Carolina, Wills and Probate Records, 1665-1998" Rowan County, Wills, Vol 21-23 Images 430-432 on Ancestry.com.
[George Reed and John Hollis were neighbors, as we know from George Reed's will in 1784, where John Hollis was one of the witnesses to the will AND some of George Reed's property is described in will as bounded by land of John Hollis.]
By the way, the above will was apparently written down by someone other than Martin, for he and his two witnesses all made their marks. I note that the writer sometimes used Trantham and sometimes Trentham for the surname, and also spelled the children's given names in various ways.
It appears that our Mary was Mary Trantham, the daughter of a Martin Trantham (II) born in 1710 and died in 1783.
Martin Trantham (II) was probably the son of a Martin Trantham/Trentham 1690-1767 and Polly Cates.
Martin Trentham II by his 2nd wife had a daughter named Mary about 1750 who I believe was our Mary Trantham, and another son named Martin born about 1770.
To confuse matters further, Martin 1710, had a son Martin in 1730 by his first wife, and this Martin Trantham had a daughter Mary born 1771 who married Jesse Riley Rickman born 1770. I believe it was this 2nd Mary thathas caused some to say that John Hollis was not married to a Mary Trantham.
Added by Dgrant on Nov 13, 2016 2:40 PM
|D K Railsback B||photo permission|
May I use your photo of Wm. Blanton's tombstone in my personal Legacy software?
Thank you so much for adding it.
Wm. was my husband's direct line ancestor.
Donna Railsback Braly
|Nuckolls||RE: Nancy Reavis Gordon|
It was not easy, but being next to her husband and having it marked on the cemetery plot helped. I hope you have a Happy New Year!
Added by Nuckolls on Jan 04, 2016 7:44 AM
|Terry (Todd) Ferl||Todd Cemetery, Hill Creek|
I created a cemetery called Todd Cemetery, and then created 4 memorials for the cemetery with gravestone photos that I found on the online Cannon County Cemetery Project. Now I think maybe you took those photos? You wrote 3 years ago (July 2012 to my cousin L. Edward St. John) that the cemetery is on Hills Creek Rd on James Parker's property.
One of the memorials I created is 151168702. Is that perhaps a photo that you took and put on the CCCP web site? Can you give me details on how to get to that cemetery? Shall I add anything else to the cemetery record description?
Terry (Todd) Ferl
|Sue Dotson||Elsie Anderson Savage # 104191413|
I was at the McKenzie Cemetery over the weekend. There is a stone for Norris and immediately to the right is a funeral home marker for Elsie Blackburn Whittington. (After all these years I guess I had the two Elsie's confused.) The next stone and subsequent stones in the row are different surnames. To the left of the stone for Norris there is a huge span with no markers whatsoever, then 4 markers for for Andersons who were sons/d-i-ls of Elsie Anderson (hesitate to call her Savage since there does not seem to be a marriage record anywhere for her and Norris, and my f-i-l had said he didn't think they were ever married.) So Elsie Anderson's grave must be in that open span and is obviously without a marker. So you should probably delete your photo request for it. When I download my photos I will upload a pic of that span to the memorial. I already noted on the memorial that the grave is unmarked.
|Pat||J.A. Mitchell #91279254|
Glad you photographed this stone, very interesting. I have looked for this stone, can't find it.
Added by Pat on May 19, 2015 10:51 PM
|Jack Case Wilson||RE: Jack Case|
It is up to us to make sure that they are all remembered.
Jack Case Wilson
....for the photos of my Aunt Goldie's grave and her family!!!!!!!!
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