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Kathleen Wuerth (#47359156)
 member for 7 years, 6 days
John Arsenault
Blossom Farm Cemetery
Have you considered getting in touch with the New York Historic Cemetery Preservation Society? Check out their website at There is also the Vermont Old Cemetery Association ( that may be able to provide advice and resources but I don't believe they actually work on cemeteries outside Vermont. Please let me know if this project goes any further. I live right across the border from Fort Ann and may be able to help.

Added by John Arsenault on Nov 21, 2015 8:25 AM

Thought to determine the extent of the cemetery
I work for the Muscogee Creek Nation in central eastern Oklahoma, my tribe was removed from the Alabama Georgia whole southeastern area and with our new home being Oklahoma. We like everyone else had our own family cemeteries but the really old ones we marked with native sandstone rocks buried in the ground or we had grave houses built for our loved ones to keep that sense of familiarity of being at home, the wooden grave houses were supposed to decay and finish their cycle of life and return to the earth as we do in time and therefore the marker no longer exists, so sometimes we are tasked with locating unmarked graves due to decay, fire, intentional erasing and bulldozing by development and or oil and gas corporations, new private land owners, etc it never ends, but back to helping determine the extent of the cemetery if you have a general idea of where it exists it would have to be mowed and if a local tribe or archaeologist is involved, they may have access to a GPR Ground Penetrating Radar machine to identify where soil has been disturbed. The machine emits high frequency radio waves in the ground which reflections bounce back to the receiver and a 2D and when all images are put together a 3D image is produced. I just wanted to let you know there is technology out there growing into various fields and professions that you may be able to attain their services for such a historic and important cause that you are involved in.

Added by Preservationist on Oct 08, 2015 8:57 AM

Jim Kimble
RE: Thank you
I again feel that an aggressive inquiry at NEHGS might get you in contact with someone to help. Also try the New York Genealogical Society in NYC and the State Genealogy Society in probably Albany. PLEASE don't give up as the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Added by Jim Kimble on May 25, 2014 8:33 AM

Debra Camarota
Kathleen ...It's Debbie...can you email me at you for all your help yesterday and for caring!

Added by Debra Camarota on May 25, 2014 7:50 AM

Jim Kimble
Blossom Farm Cemetery
Not being there (600 miles +/- away) makes it very difficult to get involved.

1.You need a good attorney, probably one who deals with this sort of thing. I'm not sure you could raise enough money to get a big law firm involved and need an attorney who is interested in this kind of thing, and hopefully nearby, who will donate some time and/or good advise

2.I suggest the group get ahold of the New England Historic and Genealogical Society and sent a number. They might be helpful and are a lot closer, with resources and connections that could be helpful.

3.Find a large historical society (possibly New York State, or a more local group that will give support. I know New York City has a big genealogy group who might be good for some advise or help.

4.Find a University interested in restoring the past and ask them for support.

Good luck,

Added by Jim Kimble on May 24, 2014 3:31 PM

Garth Adams
I think I have much to add what you are working on. I am part of the Bowes family and believe I have traced back to Laurence Bowe. The bulk of the family lives in Lancaster, Ohio. You can reach me at

Look forward to speaking to you.


Added by Garth Adams on Jan 04, 2014 11:01 PM

Linda Mac
George Blanchard
The Hale Collection at the Connecticut State Library in Hartford (and on microfilm thru LDS)presents the tombstones in plot order, rather than alphabetical order. So the original transcription should include the information you seek.

Added by Linda Mac on Aug 24, 2012 9:47 AM

Michael Johnson
RE: John Bowes
I have more information for you!

I went to the library this morning and looked through the cemetery records for Elmwood and St. Mary's.

According to the Elmwood records, there is a Mary Bowe buried next to John. Her headstone read as follows: "Mary, wife of John, died Dec. 28, 1875, Age 65y."
Unfortunately, this means that Mary's headstone was more than likely vandalized at some point since it is no longer there.
I thought that maybe they could have moved Mary to St. Mary's, however, she is not listed in their records. Neither is Hanoria.

So, we have Hanoria, John, and Mary buried in Elmwood. John is also buried in St. Mary's? And, Mary's headstone is no longer standing.

I hope this helps. Please let me know if I can help you in any other way. Also, keep me up-to-date with what you find (if you don't mind). I'm quite intrigued by this situation.


Added by Michael Johnson on Jun 09, 2012 11:25 AM

Michael Johnson
RE: John Bowes
Here is some more information:

The markers for Hanoria and John are located in a location specifically for Catholics at Elmwood. So, Mary may have been buried next to John, but not have a headstone. Unfortunately, Elmwood experienced massive vandalism. In fact, even my 2nd Great Grandparent's headstone is missing. This happened years ago and many of Lancaster's oldest and unique headstones were destroyed. Today, Elmwood is watched by many security cameras...but that doesn't help us now.

It's possible that John was moved to St. Mary's...but would they have left Hanoria and Mary at Elmwood? When I return to the library, I will see if I can find an entry for Hanoria and Mary at St. Mary's.

Calling Elmwood for their records may work, but don't count on it. Back in the 1950's, the records department experienced a fire that destroyed almost all of Elmwood's records. Sorry for the bad news, but I'll try to help you if I can!


Added by Michael Johnson on Jun 08, 2012 1:42 PM

Michael Johnson
RE: John Bowes
ok...this is interesting. I was able to locate Hanoria Bowes in Elmwood Cemetery. Next to her is John Bowe. His date of death on the headstone is Jan. 16, 1854. This would seem to solve your mystery.
However, at St. Mary's Cemetery there is a John Bowes with a date of death of Jan. 16, 1854. He is in a small mausoleum.
I have obviously come across people with the same name...but the same name AND date of death in the same city? I've never seen that. I will upload the pictures from Elmwood. Let me know if you solve this mystery or if you need any help.

Added by Michael Johnson on Jun 07, 2012 9:40 AM

Michael Johnson
John Bowes
I saw your request for John Bowes. St. Mary's is not another name for Elmwood, it is a different cemetery. I have claimed Hanoria's grave and will check to see if John is there as well. If not, I will check the records for St. Mary's. I plan on going next week. I'll let you know.

Added by Michael Johnson on Jun 01, 2012 4:07 PM

Mt Muncie cemetery
"You indicated that you would email a larger version of the cemetery map upon request. I would love a copy."

I need an email address to send you a copy.

Added by SMG on Feb 29, 2012 11:21 AM

Gerald "Jerry" Hobson
Archie and Florence Wuerth, Calvary Cemetery
Thanks for posting the Wuerth marker photos. Nicely done. I'm grateful for your help. By any chance, do you have obits for them? I am very distantly related through Keith and HUnter.

Added by Gerald "Jerry" Hobson on Feb 13, 2012 11:55 PM

Sheri 1984
St. Patricks
I also need to call because some of my family's headstone are knocked over..I am gonna do my best to do what I can, I do know that on some forums that the church did close for a while and documents were sent to ST Rose church in New Lexington but some were lost in the transfers! I have takin a huge liking to this cemetery because my family are buried there and my parents were married at that church, just waiting on warmer weather so I can go crazy ;)

Added by Sheri 1984 on Jan 09, 2012 8:04 PM

Sheri 1984
Your Welcome!! Once it get's warm here I told my boyfriend I wanted to take time and do all of St.Patrick's cemetery =) I do plan on going back because a lot of my family is there.
I wouldn't mind at all the pics are yours now =)
Next time I go I will look for William, I can tell you that Mary and Nancy's headstones are next to each other and off to the left of Mary there are two bases but the headstones are missing,A lot of the headstones there are very old and some are knocked over or unreadable I will try to email you the other views we took for you to see! =)

Added by Sheri 1984 on Jan 07, 2012 2:22 PM

Kyle Myers
Is Mary at 43420485 William's mother? She's at least old enough, but I looked at the St. Patrick's directory again and couldn't find any additional. I hope the church records can be of


Added by Kyle Myers on Oct 16, 2011 5:13 PM

Gerald "Jerry" Hobson
Canadian Vandruff Link
I've also been contacted by a Vandruff descendant in Canada, and it's OK with me to share whatever you have been sent, but you should ask that dates for living individuals not be posted online. And you should not expect much in return as she is just starting out, and Canadian records are not as accessible as American records. She is posting her information on the Canadian version of, for which I do not have a subscription, and cannot look at what she is posting. I have not heard from her in several weeks, and though I've asked to receive the information which connects her to Estalla Reardon and Hezekiah Jordan, whose descendant she is, I have not received anything.

Added by Gerald "Jerry" Hobson on Mar 23, 2011 11:33 PM

Gerald "Jerry" Hobson
Hiram and Hulda Hunter
Many thanks for the links to the parents of Melissa Hunter Vandruff. I've also requested the creator of the Hulda Fisk memorial to correct the dates on that posting.

Added by Gerald "Jerry" Hobson on Mar 23, 2011 11:26 PM

RE: Nelson D Hunter
you are quite welcome

Added by Oz on Mar 23, 2011 5:30 AM

Nelson Hunter
thank you

Added by Oz on Mar 23, 2011 5:29 AM

Librarians rule!
RE: Andrew Schneider
Great! I have saved your email address, I can delete the message with it in if you want - I will get in tough with you this weekend sometime with some "stuff". :)
Mary Anne

Added by Librarians rule! on Dec 11, 2010 9:36 AM

Librarians rule!
RE: Andrew Schneider
Hi, Kathleen,
I just got home last night from a hospital stay - so I will add the links that you requested sometime soon -- and then while I'm at home maybe I can send you some info about the Kurths. There is too much to send this way - I can send you scans of documents if I have them - How can we do that? :)
Mary Anne

Added by Librarians rule! on Dec 11, 2010 8:58 AM

Barbara Crossler
RE: Andrew Schneider 1843-1928
I'd be glad to transfer any memorials to you. I'm not related to any of them. Just send me the numbers you want.


Added by Barbara Crossler on Dec 09, 2010 6:15 PM

Joyce Nance-Woodcock
Harry R. Wuerth photo request
Kathleen, We walked all through Sec 8 and the only Harry R was Worth, thinking it was perhaps misspelled. Couldn't find the other baby Wuerth in either baby section so will have to get ahold of the cemetery for a grave number. I'll ask then about Harry and if that's not it, I'll get it and replace.

Added by Joyce Nance-Woodcock on Nov 13, 2010 5:18 PM

Neal Robertson
Morris Rockert
Kathleen, thank you for contacting me. Morris Rockert was my wife's maternal Great Great Grandfather. He has a son, Jacob George Rockert, that is also buried there. Morris had six children that we know of; Elizabeth 1854, Jacob George 1855, Frank 1856, Catharine 1863, Edward 1864, and Amelia 1865. All were born in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County. Amelia was my wife's Great Grandmother. Could you please scan and share the immigration information that you have with us? We have quite a bit of info on his descendants that we can share if you would like. Thank you, Neal

Added by Neal Robertson on Nov 11, 2010 4:57 AM


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