North Carolina, USA
Alice Forbes was born between 1660-1664. In records of the time, names have many spelling variants this was the case with surnanes like Forbes. Forbes is shown as a Forbes, Fobes, Forbush, Forbrush, etc. Given names were not immune from this either. At that time the names Alice, Elaz, Elisha, & Eliza were often interchanged with one another.
Don't look at the spelling listen to the names as they would have been spoken with an accent, then you will hear the phonetics and see how things could have been be spelled.
Little is known about Alice and where she came from and what her surname really was. There are 3 theories on who she was. They have her last name as Garrett, Clason & Knight.
THEORY - A
In 1696 a James Forbush and Eliza Garrett are married in church wedding at St Phillip's Parish in Barbados. Is this our James and Alice? The timing fits.
In Virgina at this time the names Elisha and Alicia were used for one in the same person. Again listen to how Eliza & Elisha could sound. See pg 1466 of Virginia's Eastern Shore.
Would someone living on the eastern shores of Virginia travel to Barbados to be married? Did James and Alice go there for a holiday, to get trade product and find a church to perform the religious marriage ceremony? Quite possible. Records show that Barbados was the largest area British colonial trading port. Colonial journals show marriages were often later formalized by traveling ministers or by going to a more populated place where there was a church.
This is the only marriage record found for a James Forbush. Also, No other JAMES Forbes is found in the area during that general time frame.
THEORY - B
Another researcher feels that Accomack arrivals in 1672 may hold the answer. They show a JNO Furbush arriving on Mar 23, 1672 and just before that an arrival for Alice Clason. That researcher feels it was JAMES Furbush (not JNO) and that he possibly could have married Alice Clason. Why? That researcher could not find other females with the name of Alice in the area and the name Alice Clason disappearred.
Also, while the 1672 Furbush was a JNO, the name JOHN Furbush was not found again while JAMES Furbush's name was found in tax records starting in 1678. In 1672 our James would have been only 15 and Alice 8-12. Did this Alice marry James? The researcher indicates it is conjecture. No Virgina records have JAMES Forbes & Alice CLASON as man & wife.
THEORY - C
In 1701 when our James was "admitted" to North Carolina, a Lewis Knight and his family are admitted with the James Forbes family under the same headright claim for land. The Accomack Co, VA Tithe records also list Lewis Knight 1688-1695. James was granted all of the headright land, none went to the Knight family. There is a possibility that Alice is the daughter of Lewis Knight.
Jas & Alice sold their Modest Town, Virginia land in Apr 1701. They did not arrive in Camden County, NC until 20 Oct 1701. Did they stay with the Knight's until they sold their land? Records show that the Forbes & Knight families were adjacent neighbors in Camden County. NC.
Well enough of the theories, the point is that James & Alice committed to one another as husband & wife.
Alice and James Forbes had six children in Accomack County, Virginia. The children were Thomas, Bailey, Edward, Elizabeth (Caroon), James and John.
James & Elas sold there land in Modest Town, Accomack County, Virginia in April 1701. On 20 Oct. 1701 they along with the Knights moved to Camden County, North Carolina. James was given a grant for 532 acres of land and the Knight family was listed but received no land. This area was first known as Forbestown until after the civil war when it was renamed for a respected teacher named Riddle.
Alice remained there with her children until her death.
Through the very fine efforts of Willard Forbes this Forbes Memorial was built. The memorial is on land that was part of the original Forbes grant. It is just across the road from where James & Alice's Forbes home was built in 1701. James & Alice remained in that home until they left this world.
The Forbes Memorial is located on Pond road just west of the town of Riddle (formerly Forbestown).
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James Forbes (1657 - 1726)
James Forbes (____ - 1754)*
James Forbes (1696 - 1754)*
Thomas Forbes (1696 - 1732)*
John Forbes (1696 - 1750)*
Edward Forbes (1696 - 1753)*
Bailey Forbes (1696 - 1771)*
Elizabeth Forbes Relfe (1696 - 1727)*
A Lasting Tribute
According to the records of Pasquotank and Camden Counties, James Forbes, his wife, Alice, and their sons, and daughter, were the only Forbes immigrants to settle in this area. For this reason a monument was established commerating the living legacy to each person who bears the family name of Forbes. The monument has been located near the center of the original land grant where James Forbes settled and was buried. It was dedicated on October 20, 2001 in celebration of the 300th anniversary of James and Alice Forbes arrival in Riddle, North Carolina.
The parcel of land on which the monument was placed was donated by the Reverend Daniel Forbes.
The committee responsible for raising the funds necessary to establish the monument are listed below:
Willard Forbes, Chairman
Joseph Forbes, Treasurer
Rev. Daniel Forbes
Robert L. Forbes
Henrietta Forbes Leary
Dr. Alan G Forbes, DSS
Arnette Forbes Manning
James & Alice Forbes Memorial
North Carolina, USA
Created by: The Ancestor Hunter
Record added: Aug 09, 2006
Find A Grave Memorial# 15203719