Grave site lost.
Some descendants list his wife as Phebe Melinda Nichols, born in Cumberland, Nova Scotia.
One reference says he lived southeast of Carmel in Township of Southeast, in Philipse Patent in Dutchess County, now Putnam County. An online reference says he died in the Revolution. Some call him "Peter Angevine the Loyalist" although his sons were the loyalists whose property was confiscated after the Revolution. Various references say that Peter died in 1778 and was the father of John Angevine and Peter Angevine who moved to Canada.
A 1777 tax list in Philips Patent listing "Peter Angevine estate" (with poll tax of 4) may refer to this Peter Angevine who died in 1778 or could refer to his uncle Peter Angevine (Jr.) who died about the same time leaving four sons over the age of 16 in 1777.
Sessional Papers ... of the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario
Page 748. Nov. 2, 1786:
651. Case of Peter Angevine, late of New York. Claimt. Sent his Claim to Col. D. He lived in Philips Patent. Joined in 1779. Served all the War. Now settled in Ramsback. Was possessed of 158 acres Leasehold in Philips Patent, Dutchess Co. Had them from his Father, had been in Possession 3 years…." (meaning property was seized in 1781?)
Abraham Covert testified he knew Claimant and the estate in Philips Patent inherited from his father, divided between him and his brother John; that the father died "about 7 years ago" (1779).
Page 790. Nov. 6, 1786:
"656. Case of John Angivine, late of New York.
Claimt. Sent his Claim to Col. D. Lived in Dutchess Co. joined the Brit. At Long Island, 1776. Served all the War, except the time he was Prisoner, as private. Now settled in Ramsback. Was possessed of Tenant Land in Philips Patent, 158 acres, was entitled on his Father's Death, his Father Died in 1778, there was a Division made between Claimt. & his Bror. V. case of Peter Angevine, Claimt. To be allowed the same, for Estate & for Cattle."
The "Peter Angevine estate" listed on the Philipse Patent 1777 tax list would appear likely the same Peter Angevine, although he could be confused with his uncle Peter Angevine who died after his last child was born 1773, and whose son Joseph Angevine later lived in Philipse Patent near Carmel, perhaps having succeeded to his father's estate. Joseph's son Capt. Peter Angevine then acquired more land there and in Putnam Valley adjoining many of the same people discussed in the early records of Philipse Patent.
Angevine Genealogy (1977) by Clyde V. Angevine, p. 29:
PETER ANGEVINE, son of #16 Lewis & Esther (Sicard) Angevine; b 30 Aug 1734 New Rochelle, Westch Co, NY; bp 20 Sep 1734 at French Church in New Rochelle; in all probability he is the same Peter who d 1778 in Philipse Patent, Dutchess Co, NY at that time, but now in Putnam Co, NY;
m @ 1755/bef (wife unknown)
Ch:
+ 92. John ANGEVINE b about 1756 maybe in Westch Co, NY or possibly in Dutchess Co, NY
+ 93. Peter b about 1759 Do.
"Very little has been learned about Peter, except that he appeared on the Tax List of Philipse Patent, 1777- No deeds were found recorded in Dutchess County Clerk's Office in Poughkeepsie, NY; no surrogate records either. (Putnam County was not formed from Dutchess County until 1812).
Source 5038 shows that the two sons Peter and John each inherited 158 acres of the estate after their father died in 1778. Each of them had their property confiscated after the Revolutionary war, because they were Torys and remained loyal to England during the war. Thence they moved to Cumberland County, Nova Scotia and put in claims to receive property there in lieu of the confiscated property in New York State. This is also documented in "New York in the Revolution - Supplement" 1901 compiled by Erastus C Knight p. 253:
Estates Confiscated - among the list are John Anjouvine and Peter Anjouvine.
These two sons are the beginning of the Canadian or Nova Scotia branch of the family.
"Comment: An observation was noted while reading several wills of residents in Westch & Dutchess counties, NY. It seems there were almost as many wounds opened up from the division and strife within families, as there were from the bullets while in combat; members within a given family took opposing sides to the issue.
A sizeable number took the side of the Torys. As a result of their decision or belief, heartaches within several families were evident to the point where they made sure that those who migrated to Canada, only received a legal minimum part of the estate. An example of this can be found in source #5045.
Although I have no positive proof that this Peter is the same Peter in Philipse Patent, I know of no other possibility. It appears that we can eliminate #18 Peter b 1714 as a possibility, because of the Family Bible records (5048) in NYG-BR. There is no John listed there, but #45 Peter b 1752 is within about seven years of being the same age of #93 Peter above. I remain confident that the above connection is correct. CVA
5012 New Rochelle baptism - Sunday 20 Sbre 1734 was baptized Pierre son of Louis Angevin and Esther his wife;
born 30 of the month August precedent and presented by Pierre Angevin & Maria Angevin, Parrain & Maraine (godfather & godmother).
Lewis Angevin Angevin
Pierre Angevin Peter Bonet
Marie Angevine
5038 "Second Report of the Bureau of Archives for the Province of Ontario" 1904 pp. 784, 79°
Microcard #3 of 14 (on microfilm) "Dutchess-Putnam County, NY" - List of Taxes of Philipse Patent, I777
at Syracuse, NY Public Library, Dept of Genealogy & Local History
5015 Bolton
A French Huguenot Legacy by Debra Guion Stufflebean, p.97, says: "Other members of the Guion family that moved to Canada were…Pierre Angevine Jr., son of Pierre and Deborah Guion Angevine, and his family." But the author seems to have confused Peter Angevine Jr., grandson of Lewis, and great-grandson of Pierre Angevine Sr. and Deborah Guion, with his half grand-uncle Pierre/Peter Angevine Jr., son of Pierre and Marguerite. Pierre Sr. and Deborah's son Pierre Jr. died young. It was Lewis' grandson Peter Angevine Jr. who was a Tory and known to have removed to Canada and his farm at Carmel confiscated.
Peter Angevine's son John Angevine, Loyalist, received lot/grant #69 in Nova Scotia, and his brother, Peter Jr., may never have actually been awarded a grant.
The grant document and the survey dated 1784 showed William (Lot 141), John (Lot 154), and Peter Jr. (Lot 190).
[Saint John] November 6. [1786.]
New Claim
Case of John Angivine(sic), late of New York.
Claimt. sent his Claim to Col. D. [DeLancey]
Lived in Dutchess Co. joined the Brit. at Long Island, 1776. Served all the War, except the time he was Prisoner, as private. Now settled in Ramsback.
Was possessed of Tenant Land in Philips Patent, 158 acres, was entitled on his Father's Death, his Father died in 1778, there was a Division made between Claimt. & his Bror. v. case of Peter Angevine, Claimt. to be allowed the same, for Estate & for Cattle.
DID TWO PETER ANGEVINES SETTLE IN PHILIPSE PATENT?
Peter Angevine, the father of Loyalists Peter and John Angevine who moved to Canada, died in 1778 and may have died by 1777 unless it was his uncle Peter Angevine Jr. whose estate was shown on a 1777 tax list (with four taxable in the household). Peter Angevine Jr. left four sons who were over the age of 16 in 1777.
Peter Angevine Jr may have been among the early settlers in the Philipse Patent, as was his nephew of the same name, as Peter Jr.'s son Joseph later lived there, succeeded by Joseph's son Capt. Peter Angevine.
One Peter Angevine was located "near the middle of Philipse Patent" in 1765-67 when he testified in a lawsuit brought by the Mohican Indians against the Philipse family for selling some of their lands to settlers. Peter Angevine testified that most of the settlers he knew purchased their land directly from the Indians.
OLD DUTCHESS FOREVER, THE STORY OF AN AMERICAN COUNTY by HENRY N. MacCRACKEN (1956), p.294:
Of the several lists of witnesses, that of Spalding's Narrative is given here: Deacon David Paddock, George Curry, Peter Angevine, Captain Guy Johnson, Samuel Drake, James Philips,John Buoys (Buys), John Dupee (Dupuy), Nehemiah Horton,Joseph Crane, Samuel Astin, George Hughson, William Hill,Joseph Traverse, John Van Tassel, Daniel Townsend, and Bartlet Brundage. Judge Underbill and Joseph Merrit were not
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examined because objection was raised that they were too much interested.
Samuel Munroe was also served with a warrant and came to town, but before the trial took place was committed to jail,"where", Spalding remarked sourly, Tie appears likely to pass the remainder of his days". Actually, he was in Dutchess within a few years, and sued a debtor in good form.
Other names appear on the Council's list: Samuel Field, Henry Van Amburgh, Richard Curry, James Dyckman, Esq., Dan Cornwall, Gilbert Bloomer, William Ogden, Samuel Hozer. These were on the list served with summons.
Spalding gives some interesting details of the "evidences'*.
James Brown, an ancient gentleman and a celebrated Connecticut lawyer, (undoubtedly he of the Oblong business) testified that he had defended Moses Northrup unsuccessfully in the put-up job of eviction between Beekman and Philipse.
Brown testified that he told tenants that Adolph Philipse himself had told him the land was never owned by the latter* Brown looked into the title and found this was true.
Daniel Townsend told how when he went to live on the land years before in 1738 he had to agree with the Indians before they would let him live on it. He finally signed up with them, and agreed to make a new deed with them in case he signed with Adolph Philipse.
...
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In written depositions Jacobus Ter Boss and James Philipstestified that Indians had already maintained their claims; that they never sold their land twice: Judge Ter Boss affirmed that he understood the Indian language well; that he had lived nearby them for thirty years before the settlers came.
Adolph Philipse had told the tribe they must all meet him, but they never did.
Spalding added: "Samuel Munroe, I am credibly informed, will testify that Adolph Philipse and he had agreed upon a deed for the Indians to sign, but Philipse was on his deathbed and died before he could sign it." "I have heard the said Munroe give the same account of the matter/' he added.
PETER ANGEVINE testified that all Tenants "bought their peace" with the Indians, prior to the going off to war.
This the Philipse attorneys did not deny, but claimed it happened only once, and was merely a bribe to keep the Indians quiet. Matthew DuBois of Fishkill testified to the same effect, alleging that he had been employed by Philipse to go around among the tenants, and bring all to an agreement under the patentees, and all but one had so agreed. The Indians were then given presents.
Some descendants list his wife as Phebe Melinda Nichols, born in Cumberland, Nova Scotia.
One reference says he lived southeast of Carmel in Township of Southeast, in Philipse Patent in Dutchess County, now Putnam County. An online reference says he died in the Revolution. Some call him "Peter Angevine the Loyalist" although his sons were the loyalists whose property was confiscated after the Revolution. Various references say that Peter died in 1778 and was the father of John Angevine and Peter Angevine who moved to Canada.
A 1777 tax list in Philips Patent listing "Peter Angevine estate" (with poll tax of 4) may refer to this Peter Angevine who died in 1778 or could refer to his uncle Peter Angevine (Jr.) who died about the same time leaving four sons over the age of 16 in 1777.
Sessional Papers ... of the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario
Page 748. Nov. 2, 1786:
651. Case of Peter Angevine, late of New York. Claimt. Sent his Claim to Col. D. He lived in Philips Patent. Joined in 1779. Served all the War. Now settled in Ramsback. Was possessed of 158 acres Leasehold in Philips Patent, Dutchess Co. Had them from his Father, had been in Possession 3 years…." (meaning property was seized in 1781?)
Abraham Covert testified he knew Claimant and the estate in Philips Patent inherited from his father, divided between him and his brother John; that the father died "about 7 years ago" (1779).
Page 790. Nov. 6, 1786:
"656. Case of John Angivine, late of New York.
Claimt. Sent his Claim to Col. D. Lived in Dutchess Co. joined the Brit. At Long Island, 1776. Served all the War, except the time he was Prisoner, as private. Now settled in Ramsback. Was possessed of Tenant Land in Philips Patent, 158 acres, was entitled on his Father's Death, his Father Died in 1778, there was a Division made between Claimt. & his Bror. V. case of Peter Angevine, Claimt. To be allowed the same, for Estate & for Cattle."
The "Peter Angevine estate" listed on the Philipse Patent 1777 tax list would appear likely the same Peter Angevine, although he could be confused with his uncle Peter Angevine who died after his last child was born 1773, and whose son Joseph Angevine later lived in Philipse Patent near Carmel, perhaps having succeeded to his father's estate. Joseph's son Capt. Peter Angevine then acquired more land there and in Putnam Valley adjoining many of the same people discussed in the early records of Philipse Patent.
Angevine Genealogy (1977) by Clyde V. Angevine, p. 29:
PETER ANGEVINE, son of #16 Lewis & Esther (Sicard) Angevine; b 30 Aug 1734 New Rochelle, Westch Co, NY; bp 20 Sep 1734 at French Church in New Rochelle; in all probability he is the same Peter who d 1778 in Philipse Patent, Dutchess Co, NY at that time, but now in Putnam Co, NY;
m @ 1755/bef (wife unknown)
Ch:
+ 92. John ANGEVINE b about 1756 maybe in Westch Co, NY or possibly in Dutchess Co, NY
+ 93. Peter b about 1759 Do.
"Very little has been learned about Peter, except that he appeared on the Tax List of Philipse Patent, 1777- No deeds were found recorded in Dutchess County Clerk's Office in Poughkeepsie, NY; no surrogate records either. (Putnam County was not formed from Dutchess County until 1812).
Source 5038 shows that the two sons Peter and John each inherited 158 acres of the estate after their father died in 1778. Each of them had their property confiscated after the Revolutionary war, because they were Torys and remained loyal to England during the war. Thence they moved to Cumberland County, Nova Scotia and put in claims to receive property there in lieu of the confiscated property in New York State. This is also documented in "New York in the Revolution - Supplement" 1901 compiled by Erastus C Knight p. 253:
Estates Confiscated - among the list are John Anjouvine and Peter Anjouvine.
These two sons are the beginning of the Canadian or Nova Scotia branch of the family.
"Comment: An observation was noted while reading several wills of residents in Westch & Dutchess counties, NY. It seems there were almost as many wounds opened up from the division and strife within families, as there were from the bullets while in combat; members within a given family took opposing sides to the issue.
A sizeable number took the side of the Torys. As a result of their decision or belief, heartaches within several families were evident to the point where they made sure that those who migrated to Canada, only received a legal minimum part of the estate. An example of this can be found in source #5045.
Although I have no positive proof that this Peter is the same Peter in Philipse Patent, I know of no other possibility. It appears that we can eliminate #18 Peter b 1714 as a possibility, because of the Family Bible records (5048) in NYG-BR. There is no John listed there, but #45 Peter b 1752 is within about seven years of being the same age of #93 Peter above. I remain confident that the above connection is correct. CVA
5012 New Rochelle baptism - Sunday 20 Sbre 1734 was baptized Pierre son of Louis Angevin and Esther his wife;
born 30 of the month August precedent and presented by Pierre Angevin & Maria Angevin, Parrain & Maraine (godfather & godmother).
Lewis Angevin Angevin
Pierre Angevin Peter Bonet
Marie Angevine
5038 "Second Report of the Bureau of Archives for the Province of Ontario" 1904 pp. 784, 79°
Microcard #3 of 14 (on microfilm) "Dutchess-Putnam County, NY" - List of Taxes of Philipse Patent, I777
at Syracuse, NY Public Library, Dept of Genealogy & Local History
5015 Bolton
A French Huguenot Legacy by Debra Guion Stufflebean, p.97, says: "Other members of the Guion family that moved to Canada were…Pierre Angevine Jr., son of Pierre and Deborah Guion Angevine, and his family." But the author seems to have confused Peter Angevine Jr., grandson of Lewis, and great-grandson of Pierre Angevine Sr. and Deborah Guion, with his half grand-uncle Pierre/Peter Angevine Jr., son of Pierre and Marguerite. Pierre Sr. and Deborah's son Pierre Jr. died young. It was Lewis' grandson Peter Angevine Jr. who was a Tory and known to have removed to Canada and his farm at Carmel confiscated.
Peter Angevine's son John Angevine, Loyalist, received lot/grant #69 in Nova Scotia, and his brother, Peter Jr., may never have actually been awarded a grant.
The grant document and the survey dated 1784 showed William (Lot 141), John (Lot 154), and Peter Jr. (Lot 190).
[Saint John] November 6. [1786.]
New Claim
Case of John Angivine(sic), late of New York.
Claimt. sent his Claim to Col. D. [DeLancey]
Lived in Dutchess Co. joined the Brit. at Long Island, 1776. Served all the War, except the time he was Prisoner, as private. Now settled in Ramsback.
Was possessed of Tenant Land in Philips Patent, 158 acres, was entitled on his Father's Death, his Father died in 1778, there was a Division made between Claimt. & his Bror. v. case of Peter Angevine, Claimt. to be allowed the same, for Estate & for Cattle.
DID TWO PETER ANGEVINES SETTLE IN PHILIPSE PATENT?
Peter Angevine, the father of Loyalists Peter and John Angevine who moved to Canada, died in 1778 and may have died by 1777 unless it was his uncle Peter Angevine Jr. whose estate was shown on a 1777 tax list (with four taxable in the household). Peter Angevine Jr. left four sons who were over the age of 16 in 1777.
Peter Angevine Jr may have been among the early settlers in the Philipse Patent, as was his nephew of the same name, as Peter Jr.'s son Joseph later lived there, succeeded by Joseph's son Capt. Peter Angevine.
One Peter Angevine was located "near the middle of Philipse Patent" in 1765-67 when he testified in a lawsuit brought by the Mohican Indians against the Philipse family for selling some of their lands to settlers. Peter Angevine testified that most of the settlers he knew purchased their land directly from the Indians.
OLD DUTCHESS FOREVER, THE STORY OF AN AMERICAN COUNTY by HENRY N. MacCRACKEN (1956), p.294:
Of the several lists of witnesses, that of Spalding's Narrative is given here: Deacon David Paddock, George Curry, Peter Angevine, Captain Guy Johnson, Samuel Drake, James Philips,John Buoys (Buys), John Dupee (Dupuy), Nehemiah Horton,Joseph Crane, Samuel Astin, George Hughson, William Hill,Joseph Traverse, John Van Tassel, Daniel Townsend, and Bartlet Brundage. Judge Underbill and Joseph Merrit were not
page 295:
examined because objection was raised that they were too much interested.
Samuel Munroe was also served with a warrant and came to town, but before the trial took place was committed to jail,"where", Spalding remarked sourly, Tie appears likely to pass the remainder of his days". Actually, he was in Dutchess within a few years, and sued a debtor in good form.
Other names appear on the Council's list: Samuel Field, Henry Van Amburgh, Richard Curry, James Dyckman, Esq., Dan Cornwall, Gilbert Bloomer, William Ogden, Samuel Hozer. These were on the list served with summons.
Spalding gives some interesting details of the "evidences'*.
James Brown, an ancient gentleman and a celebrated Connecticut lawyer, (undoubtedly he of the Oblong business) testified that he had defended Moses Northrup unsuccessfully in the put-up job of eviction between Beekman and Philipse.
Brown testified that he told tenants that Adolph Philipse himself had told him the land was never owned by the latter* Brown looked into the title and found this was true.
Daniel Townsend told how when he went to live on the land years before in 1738 he had to agree with the Indians before they would let him live on it. He finally signed up with them, and agreed to make a new deed with them in case he signed with Adolph Philipse.
...
page 296:
In written depositions Jacobus Ter Boss and James Philipstestified that Indians had already maintained their claims; that they never sold their land twice: Judge Ter Boss affirmed that he understood the Indian language well; that he had lived nearby them for thirty years before the settlers came.
Adolph Philipse had told the tribe they must all meet him, but they never did.
Spalding added: "Samuel Munroe, I am credibly informed, will testify that Adolph Philipse and he had agreed upon a deed for the Indians to sign, but Philipse was on his deathbed and died before he could sign it." "I have heard the said Munroe give the same account of the matter/' he added.
PETER ANGEVINE testified that all Tenants "bought their peace" with the Indians, prior to the going off to war.
This the Philipse attorneys did not deny, but claimed it happened only once, and was merely a bribe to keep the Indians quiet. Matthew DuBois of Fishkill testified to the same effect, alleging that he had been employed by Philipse to go around among the tenants, and bring all to an agreement under the patentees, and all but one had so agreed. The Indians were then given presents.
Grave site lost.
Some descendants list his wife as Phebe Melinda Nichols, born in Cumberland, Nova Scotia.
One reference says he lived southeast of Carmel in Township of Southeast, in Philipse Patent in Dutchess County, now Putnam County. An online reference says he died in the Revolution. Some call him "Peter Angevine the Loyalist" although his sons were the loyalists whose property was confiscated after the Revolution. Various references say that Peter died in 1778 and was the father of John Angevine and Peter Angevine who moved to Canada.
A 1777 tax list in Philips Patent listing "Peter Angevine estate" (with poll tax of 4) may refer to this Peter Angevine who died in 1778 or could refer to his uncle Peter Angevine (Jr.) who died about the same time leaving four sons over the age of 16 in 1777.
Sessional Papers ... of the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario
Page 748. Nov. 2, 1786:
651. Case of Peter Angevine, late of New York. Claimt. Sent his Claim to Col. D. He lived in Philips Patent. Joined in 1779. Served all the War. Now settled in Ramsback. Was possessed of 158 acres Leasehold in Philips Patent, Dutchess Co. Had them from his Father, had been in Possession 3 years…." (meaning property was seized in 1781?)
Abraham Covert testified he knew Claimant and the estate in Philips Patent inherited from his father, divided between him and his brother John; that the father died "about 7 years ago" (1779).
Page 790. Nov. 6, 1786:
"656. Case of John Angivine, late of New York.
Claimt. Sent his Claim to Col. D. Lived in Dutchess Co. joined the Brit. At Long Island, 1776. Served all the War, except the time he was Prisoner, as private. Now settled in Ramsback. Was possessed of Tenant Land in Philips Patent, 158 acres, was entitled on his Father's Death, his Father Died in 1778, there was a Division made between Claimt. & his Bror. V. case of Peter Angevine, Claimt. To be allowed the same, for Estate & for Cattle."
The "Peter Angevine estate" listed on the Philipse Patent 1777 tax list would appear likely the same Peter Angevine, although he could be confused with his uncle Peter Angevine who died after his last child was born 1773, and whose son Joseph Angevine later lived in Philipse Patent near Carmel, perhaps having succeeded to his father's estate. Joseph's son Capt. Peter Angevine then acquired more land there and in Putnam Valley adjoining many of the same people discussed in the early records of Philipse Patent.
Angevine Genealogy (1977) by Clyde V. Angevine, p. 29:
PETER ANGEVINE, son of #16 Lewis & Esther (Sicard) Angevine; b 30 Aug 1734 New Rochelle, Westch Co, NY; bp 20 Sep 1734 at French Church in New Rochelle; in all probability he is the same Peter who d 1778 in Philipse Patent, Dutchess Co, NY at that time, but now in Putnam Co, NY;
m @ 1755/bef (wife unknown)
Ch:
+ 92. John ANGEVINE b about 1756 maybe in Westch Co, NY or possibly in Dutchess Co, NY
+ 93. Peter b about 1759 Do.
"Very little has been learned about Peter, except that he appeared on the Tax List of Philipse Patent, 1777- No deeds were found recorded in Dutchess County Clerk's Office in Poughkeepsie, NY; no surrogate records either. (Putnam County was not formed from Dutchess County until 1812).
Source 5038 shows that the two sons Peter and John each inherited 158 acres of the estate after their father died in 1778. Each of them had their property confiscated after the Revolutionary war, because they were Torys and remained loyal to England during the war. Thence they moved to Cumberland County, Nova Scotia and put in claims to receive property there in lieu of the confiscated property in New York State. This is also documented in "New York in the Revolution - Supplement" 1901 compiled by Erastus C Knight p. 253:
Estates Confiscated - among the list are John Anjouvine and Peter Anjouvine.
These two sons are the beginning of the Canadian or Nova Scotia branch of the family.
"Comment: An observation was noted while reading several wills of residents in Westch & Dutchess counties, NY. It seems there were almost as many wounds opened up from the division and strife within families, as there were from the bullets while in combat; members within a given family took opposing sides to the issue.
A sizeable number took the side of the Torys. As a result of their decision or belief, heartaches within several families were evident to the point where they made sure that those who migrated to Canada, only received a legal minimum part of the estate. An example of this can be found in source #5045.
Although I have no positive proof that this Peter is the same Peter in Philipse Patent, I know of no other possibility. It appears that we can eliminate #18 Peter b 1714 as a possibility, because of the Family Bible records (5048) in NYG-BR. There is no John listed there, but #45 Peter b 1752 is within about seven years of being the same age of #93 Peter above. I remain confident that the above connection is correct. CVA
5012 New Rochelle baptism - Sunday 20 Sbre 1734 was baptized Pierre son of Louis Angevin and Esther his wife;
born 30 of the month August precedent and presented by Pierre Angevin & Maria Angevin, Parrain & Maraine (godfather & godmother).
Lewis Angevin Angevin
Pierre Angevin Peter Bonet
Marie Angevine
5038 "Second Report of the Bureau of Archives for the Province of Ontario" 1904 pp. 784, 79°
Microcard #3 of 14 (on microfilm) "Dutchess-Putnam County, NY" - List of Taxes of Philipse Patent, I777
at Syracuse, NY Public Library, Dept of Genealogy & Local History
5015 Bolton
A French Huguenot Legacy by Debra Guion Stufflebean, p.97, says: "Other members of the Guion family that moved to Canada were…Pierre Angevine Jr., son of Pierre and Deborah Guion Angevine, and his family." But the author seems to have confused Peter Angevine Jr., grandson of Lewis, and great-grandson of Pierre Angevine Sr. and Deborah Guion, with his half grand-uncle Pierre/Peter Angevine Jr., son of Pierre and Marguerite. Pierre Sr. and Deborah's son Pierre Jr. died young. It was Lewis' grandson Peter Angevine Jr. who was a Tory and known to have removed to Canada and his farm at Carmel confiscated.
Peter Angevine's son John Angevine, Loyalist, received lot/grant #69 in Nova Scotia, and his brother, Peter Jr., may never have actually been awarded a grant.
The grant document and the survey dated 1784 showed William (Lot 141), John (Lot 154), and Peter Jr. (Lot 190).
[Saint John] November 6. [1786.]
New Claim
Case of John Angivine(sic), late of New York.
Claimt. sent his Claim to Col. D. [DeLancey]
Lived in Dutchess Co. joined the Brit. at Long Island, 1776. Served all the War, except the time he was Prisoner, as private. Now settled in Ramsback.
Was possessed of Tenant Land in Philips Patent, 158 acres, was entitled on his Father's Death, his Father died in 1778, there was a Division made between Claimt. & his Bror. v. case of Peter Angevine, Claimt. to be allowed the same, for Estate & for Cattle.
DID TWO PETER ANGEVINES SETTLE IN PHILIPSE PATENT?
Peter Angevine, the father of Loyalists Peter and John Angevine who moved to Canada, died in 1778 and may have died by 1777 unless it was his uncle Peter Angevine Jr. whose estate was shown on a 1777 tax list (with four taxable in the household). Peter Angevine Jr. left four sons who were over the age of 16 in 1777.
Peter Angevine Jr may have been among the early settlers in the Philipse Patent, as was his nephew of the same name, as Peter Jr.'s son Joseph later lived there, succeeded by Joseph's son Capt. Peter Angevine.
One Peter Angevine was located "near the middle of Philipse Patent" in 1765-67 when he testified in a lawsuit brought by the Mohican Indians against the Philipse family for selling some of their lands to settlers. Peter Angevine testified that most of the settlers he knew purchased their land directly from the Indians.
OLD DUTCHESS FOREVER, THE STORY OF AN AMERICAN COUNTY by HENRY N. MacCRACKEN (1956), p.294:
Of the several lists of witnesses, that of Spalding's Narrative is given here: Deacon David Paddock, George Curry, Peter Angevine, Captain Guy Johnson, Samuel Drake, James Philips,John Buoys (Buys), John Dupee (Dupuy), Nehemiah Horton,Joseph Crane, Samuel Astin, George Hughson, William Hill,Joseph Traverse, John Van Tassel, Daniel Townsend, and Bartlet Brundage. Judge Underbill and Joseph Merrit were not
page 295:
examined because objection was raised that they were too much interested.
Samuel Munroe was also served with a warrant and came to town, but before the trial took place was committed to jail,"where", Spalding remarked sourly, Tie appears likely to pass the remainder of his days". Actually, he was in Dutchess within a few years, and sued a debtor in good form.
Other names appear on the Council's list: Samuel Field, Henry Van Amburgh, Richard Curry, James Dyckman, Esq., Dan Cornwall, Gilbert Bloomer, William Ogden, Samuel Hozer. These were on the list served with summons.
Spalding gives some interesting details of the "evidences'*.
James Brown, an ancient gentleman and a celebrated Connecticut lawyer, (undoubtedly he of the Oblong business) testified that he had defended Moses Northrup unsuccessfully in the put-up job of eviction between Beekman and Philipse.
Brown testified that he told tenants that Adolph Philipse himself had told him the land was never owned by the latter* Brown looked into the title and found this was true.
Daniel Townsend told how when he went to live on the land years before in 1738 he had to agree with the Indians before they would let him live on it. He finally signed up with them, and agreed to make a new deed with them in case he signed with Adolph Philipse.
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In written depositions Jacobus Ter Boss and James Philipstestified that Indians had already maintained their claims; that they never sold their land twice: Judge Ter Boss affirmed that he understood the Indian language well; that he had lived nearby them for thirty years before the settlers came.
Adolph Philipse had told the tribe they must all meet him, but they never did.
Spalding added: "Samuel Munroe, I am credibly informed, will testify that Adolph Philipse and he had agreed upon a deed for the Indians to sign, but Philipse was on his deathbed and died before he could sign it." "I have heard the said Munroe give the same account of the matter/' he added.
PETER ANGEVINE testified that all Tenants "bought their peace" with the Indians, prior to the going off to war.
This the Philipse attorneys did not deny, but claimed it happened only once, and was merely a bribe to keep the Indians quiet. Matthew DuBois of Fishkill testified to the same effect, alleging that he had been employed by Philipse to go around among the tenants, and bring all to an agreement under the patentees, and all but one had so agreed. The Indians were then given presents.
Some descendants list his wife as Phebe Melinda Nichols, born in Cumberland, Nova Scotia.
One reference says he lived southeast of Carmel in Township of Southeast, in Philipse Patent in Dutchess County, now Putnam County. An online reference says he died in the Revolution. Some call him "Peter Angevine the Loyalist" although his sons were the loyalists whose property was confiscated after the Revolution. Various references say that Peter died in 1778 and was the father of John Angevine and Peter Angevine who moved to Canada.
A 1777 tax list in Philips Patent listing "Peter Angevine estate" (with poll tax of 4) may refer to this Peter Angevine who died in 1778 or could refer to his uncle Peter Angevine (Jr.) who died about the same time leaving four sons over the age of 16 in 1777.
Sessional Papers ... of the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario
Page 748. Nov. 2, 1786:
651. Case of Peter Angevine, late of New York. Claimt. Sent his Claim to Col. D. He lived in Philips Patent. Joined in 1779. Served all the War. Now settled in Ramsback. Was possessed of 158 acres Leasehold in Philips Patent, Dutchess Co. Had them from his Father, had been in Possession 3 years…." (meaning property was seized in 1781?)
Abraham Covert testified he knew Claimant and the estate in Philips Patent inherited from his father, divided between him and his brother John; that the father died "about 7 years ago" (1779).
Page 790. Nov. 6, 1786:
"656. Case of John Angivine, late of New York.
Claimt. Sent his Claim to Col. D. Lived in Dutchess Co. joined the Brit. At Long Island, 1776. Served all the War, except the time he was Prisoner, as private. Now settled in Ramsback. Was possessed of Tenant Land in Philips Patent, 158 acres, was entitled on his Father's Death, his Father Died in 1778, there was a Division made between Claimt. & his Bror. V. case of Peter Angevine, Claimt. To be allowed the same, for Estate & for Cattle."
The "Peter Angevine estate" listed on the Philipse Patent 1777 tax list would appear likely the same Peter Angevine, although he could be confused with his uncle Peter Angevine who died after his last child was born 1773, and whose son Joseph Angevine later lived in Philipse Patent near Carmel, perhaps having succeeded to his father's estate. Joseph's son Capt. Peter Angevine then acquired more land there and in Putnam Valley adjoining many of the same people discussed in the early records of Philipse Patent.
Angevine Genealogy (1977) by Clyde V. Angevine, p. 29:
PETER ANGEVINE, son of #16 Lewis & Esther (Sicard) Angevine; b 30 Aug 1734 New Rochelle, Westch Co, NY; bp 20 Sep 1734 at French Church in New Rochelle; in all probability he is the same Peter who d 1778 in Philipse Patent, Dutchess Co, NY at that time, but now in Putnam Co, NY;
m @ 1755/bef (wife unknown)
Ch:
+ 92. John ANGEVINE b about 1756 maybe in Westch Co, NY or possibly in Dutchess Co, NY
+ 93. Peter b about 1759 Do.
"Very little has been learned about Peter, except that he appeared on the Tax List of Philipse Patent, 1777- No deeds were found recorded in Dutchess County Clerk's Office in Poughkeepsie, NY; no surrogate records either. (Putnam County was not formed from Dutchess County until 1812).
Source 5038 shows that the two sons Peter and John each inherited 158 acres of the estate after their father died in 1778. Each of them had their property confiscated after the Revolutionary war, because they were Torys and remained loyal to England during the war. Thence they moved to Cumberland County, Nova Scotia and put in claims to receive property there in lieu of the confiscated property in New York State. This is also documented in "New York in the Revolution - Supplement" 1901 compiled by Erastus C Knight p. 253:
Estates Confiscated - among the list are John Anjouvine and Peter Anjouvine.
These two sons are the beginning of the Canadian or Nova Scotia branch of the family.
"Comment: An observation was noted while reading several wills of residents in Westch & Dutchess counties, NY. It seems there were almost as many wounds opened up from the division and strife within families, as there were from the bullets while in combat; members within a given family took opposing sides to the issue.
A sizeable number took the side of the Torys. As a result of their decision or belief, heartaches within several families were evident to the point where they made sure that those who migrated to Canada, only received a legal minimum part of the estate. An example of this can be found in source #5045.
Although I have no positive proof that this Peter is the same Peter in Philipse Patent, I know of no other possibility. It appears that we can eliminate #18 Peter b 1714 as a possibility, because of the Family Bible records (5048) in NYG-BR. There is no John listed there, but #45 Peter b 1752 is within about seven years of being the same age of #93 Peter above. I remain confident that the above connection is correct. CVA
5012 New Rochelle baptism - Sunday 20 Sbre 1734 was baptized Pierre son of Louis Angevin and Esther his wife;
born 30 of the month August precedent and presented by Pierre Angevin & Maria Angevin, Parrain & Maraine (godfather & godmother).
Lewis Angevin Angevin
Pierre Angevin Peter Bonet
Marie Angevine
5038 "Second Report of the Bureau of Archives for the Province of Ontario" 1904 pp. 784, 79°
Microcard #3 of 14 (on microfilm) "Dutchess-Putnam County, NY" - List of Taxes of Philipse Patent, I777
at Syracuse, NY Public Library, Dept of Genealogy & Local History
5015 Bolton
A French Huguenot Legacy by Debra Guion Stufflebean, p.97, says: "Other members of the Guion family that moved to Canada were…Pierre Angevine Jr., son of Pierre and Deborah Guion Angevine, and his family." But the author seems to have confused Peter Angevine Jr., grandson of Lewis, and great-grandson of Pierre Angevine Sr. and Deborah Guion, with his half grand-uncle Pierre/Peter Angevine Jr., son of Pierre and Marguerite. Pierre Sr. and Deborah's son Pierre Jr. died young. It was Lewis' grandson Peter Angevine Jr. who was a Tory and known to have removed to Canada and his farm at Carmel confiscated.
Peter Angevine's son John Angevine, Loyalist, received lot/grant #69 in Nova Scotia, and his brother, Peter Jr., may never have actually been awarded a grant.
The grant document and the survey dated 1784 showed William (Lot 141), John (Lot 154), and Peter Jr. (Lot 190).
[Saint John] November 6. [1786.]
New Claim
Case of John Angivine(sic), late of New York.
Claimt. sent his Claim to Col. D. [DeLancey]
Lived in Dutchess Co. joined the Brit. at Long Island, 1776. Served all the War, except the time he was Prisoner, as private. Now settled in Ramsback.
Was possessed of Tenant Land in Philips Patent, 158 acres, was entitled on his Father's Death, his Father died in 1778, there was a Division made between Claimt. & his Bror. v. case of Peter Angevine, Claimt. to be allowed the same, for Estate & for Cattle.
DID TWO PETER ANGEVINES SETTLE IN PHILIPSE PATENT?
Peter Angevine, the father of Loyalists Peter and John Angevine who moved to Canada, died in 1778 and may have died by 1777 unless it was his uncle Peter Angevine Jr. whose estate was shown on a 1777 tax list (with four taxable in the household). Peter Angevine Jr. left four sons who were over the age of 16 in 1777.
Peter Angevine Jr may have been among the early settlers in the Philipse Patent, as was his nephew of the same name, as Peter Jr.'s son Joseph later lived there, succeeded by Joseph's son Capt. Peter Angevine.
One Peter Angevine was located "near the middle of Philipse Patent" in 1765-67 when he testified in a lawsuit brought by the Mohican Indians against the Philipse family for selling some of their lands to settlers. Peter Angevine testified that most of the settlers he knew purchased their land directly from the Indians.
OLD DUTCHESS FOREVER, THE STORY OF AN AMERICAN COUNTY by HENRY N. MacCRACKEN (1956), p.294:
Of the several lists of witnesses, that of Spalding's Narrative is given here: Deacon David Paddock, George Curry, Peter Angevine, Captain Guy Johnson, Samuel Drake, James Philips,John Buoys (Buys), John Dupee (Dupuy), Nehemiah Horton,Joseph Crane, Samuel Astin, George Hughson, William Hill,Joseph Traverse, John Van Tassel, Daniel Townsend, and Bartlet Brundage. Judge Underbill and Joseph Merrit were not
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examined because objection was raised that they were too much interested.
Samuel Munroe was also served with a warrant and came to town, but before the trial took place was committed to jail,"where", Spalding remarked sourly, Tie appears likely to pass the remainder of his days". Actually, he was in Dutchess within a few years, and sued a debtor in good form.
Other names appear on the Council's list: Samuel Field, Henry Van Amburgh, Richard Curry, James Dyckman, Esq., Dan Cornwall, Gilbert Bloomer, William Ogden, Samuel Hozer. These were on the list served with summons.
Spalding gives some interesting details of the "evidences'*.
James Brown, an ancient gentleman and a celebrated Connecticut lawyer, (undoubtedly he of the Oblong business) testified that he had defended Moses Northrup unsuccessfully in the put-up job of eviction between Beekman and Philipse.
Brown testified that he told tenants that Adolph Philipse himself had told him the land was never owned by the latter* Brown looked into the title and found this was true.
Daniel Townsend told how when he went to live on the land years before in 1738 he had to agree with the Indians before they would let him live on it. He finally signed up with them, and agreed to make a new deed with them in case he signed with Adolph Philipse.
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In written depositions Jacobus Ter Boss and James Philipstestified that Indians had already maintained their claims; that they never sold their land twice: Judge Ter Boss affirmed that he understood the Indian language well; that he had lived nearby them for thirty years before the settlers came.
Adolph Philipse had told the tribe they must all meet him, but they never did.
Spalding added: "Samuel Munroe, I am credibly informed, will testify that Adolph Philipse and he had agreed upon a deed for the Indians to sign, but Philipse was on his deathbed and died before he could sign it." "I have heard the said Munroe give the same account of the matter/' he added.
PETER ANGEVINE testified that all Tenants "bought their peace" with the Indians, prior to the going off to war.
This the Philipse attorneys did not deny, but claimed it happened only once, and was merely a bribe to keep the Indians quiet. Matthew DuBois of Fishkill testified to the same effect, alleging that he had been employed by Philipse to go around among the tenants, and bring all to an agreement under the patentees, and all but one had so agreed. The Indians were then given presents.
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