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Joan Beggarly Greene

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Joan Beggarly Greene

Birth
England
Death
1682 (aged 71–72)
Providence, Providence County, Rhode Island, USA
Burial
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Born no later than about 1610, based on marriage to Richard Beggarly no later than 1630. Came to Massachusetts Bay in 1630. First settled in Salem; moved to Providence RI in 1637. Died in Providence 1643 (according to Austin 88, but no documentary evidence is supplied). However some updated evidence is provided via: https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/L62W-ZGX/joan-1610-1682

MARRIAGES: (1) England before 1630 Richard Beggarly (or Beckley); in a memorandum of 2 June 1636, Winthrop reports the Court's consideration of "the cause between Richard Beggarly and his wife, who had been here six years, and he in England," the Court deciding that there was not sufficient evidence for a divorce, but advancing her 20s. "till she might send into England for further proof;" on 27 March 1638 in Essex Quarterly Court "Mrs. Daniell" sued "Richard Beckly" in an action of debt, the court awarding the plaintiff 20s. damages and 4s. costs; in a journal entry dated 13 or 14 December 1638, Winthrop, describing events at Providence, reported on "one Greene (who hath married the wife of one Beggerly, whose husband is living, and no divorce, etc., but only it was said, that he had lived in adultery, and had confessed it)."
(2) Providence by 14 December 1638 John Greene.
Following the death of Reverend Samuel Skelton in 1634, Alice Beggarly/Daniel had a controlling interest in his estate. In a letter to John Winthrop, probably written in 1635, Alice Daniel described her efforts to manage the cattle which had belonged to Skelton, and expressed her desire not to be responsible for Skelton's children. On 5 June 1638 the General Court ordered a division of a portion of Skelton's estate "with the consent of Mrs. Baggerly." On 8 August 1638 Hugh Peter described to John Winthrop "Mrs. Beggerly's, or rather Mr. Skelton's house, which is now falling to the ground." All of this implies some close relation between Samuel Skelton and Alice Beggarly.
Although there is no direct evidence that "Mrs. Beggarly" and "Alice Daniel" were the same person, we find a parallelism in three areas, where both names are found: 1) the marriage to Richard Beggarly/Beckley; 2) the estate of Reverend Samuel Skelton; and 3) Providence. The association with the estate of Samuel Skelton is especially telling, for it would be difficult to believe that two women of high social status, Mrs. Beggarly and Mrs. Alice Daniel, would both be directly involved in the same degree in settling that estate.
Presumably Daniels is Alice's maiden name (or possibly the name of a husband prior to Richard Beggarly). She was obviously well-educated and of high social status, at least by New England standards. Further research in England, including examination of the English career of Samuel Skelton, should reveal more about this interesting woman.
In 1881 William B. Trask gathered all that was known about Alice, except for the items from the Providence town records. His suggestion that Alice's husband Richard Beggarly was the same as Richard Beckley of New Haven seems an unlikely guess.John Greene married (2) by 14 Dec 1638, Alice Beggarly. She died about 12 Jan 1643[/4]. (On 19 Jan 1643[/4], Benedict Arnold, in a postscript to a letter to John Winthrop, reported that "Mr. Green's wife is dead, about a week since.")
No children recorded of this marriage,
Anderson's Great Migration Begins.

Contribution without citation:
There were two John Greenes in early Rhode Island: John Greene, surgeon (of the Warwick Greenes) and John Greene of Quidnessett. They were second cousins once removed, the surgeon being the elder. John Greene, the surgeon, did marry as a third wife Alice Daniels, which was a married name from a first husband and whose maiden name is unknown. John Greene of Quidnessett married Joan Baggerly - which was a married name from a first husband. Her maiden name also is unknown. Here is the grave memorial ID for Joan Baggerly: 102367576∼She married John Greene during one of his business trips to Massachusetts around 1642.

There are some old dilapidated graves in what was once a part of John of Quidnessett's land.
Two of the crude headstones bear the initials D.G. and R.G., marking the graves of John's son, Daniel and his wife, Rebecca.
The oldest is marked either J.G. or I.G. and is believed to be Joan Beggarly's.
Born no later than about 1610, based on marriage to Richard Beggarly no later than 1630. Came to Massachusetts Bay in 1630. First settled in Salem; moved to Providence RI in 1637. Died in Providence 1643 (according to Austin 88, but no documentary evidence is supplied). However some updated evidence is provided via: https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/L62W-ZGX/joan-1610-1682

MARRIAGES: (1) England before 1630 Richard Beggarly (or Beckley); in a memorandum of 2 June 1636, Winthrop reports the Court's consideration of "the cause between Richard Beggarly and his wife, who had been here six years, and he in England," the Court deciding that there was not sufficient evidence for a divorce, but advancing her 20s. "till she might send into England for further proof;" on 27 March 1638 in Essex Quarterly Court "Mrs. Daniell" sued "Richard Beckly" in an action of debt, the court awarding the plaintiff 20s. damages and 4s. costs; in a journal entry dated 13 or 14 December 1638, Winthrop, describing events at Providence, reported on "one Greene (who hath married the wife of one Beggerly, whose husband is living, and no divorce, etc., but only it was said, that he had lived in adultery, and had confessed it)."
(2) Providence by 14 December 1638 John Greene.
Following the death of Reverend Samuel Skelton in 1634, Alice Beggarly/Daniel had a controlling interest in his estate. In a letter to John Winthrop, probably written in 1635, Alice Daniel described her efforts to manage the cattle which had belonged to Skelton, and expressed her desire not to be responsible for Skelton's children. On 5 June 1638 the General Court ordered a division of a portion of Skelton's estate "with the consent of Mrs. Baggerly." On 8 August 1638 Hugh Peter described to John Winthrop "Mrs. Beggerly's, or rather Mr. Skelton's house, which is now falling to the ground." All of this implies some close relation between Samuel Skelton and Alice Beggarly.
Although there is no direct evidence that "Mrs. Beggarly" and "Alice Daniel" were the same person, we find a parallelism in three areas, where both names are found: 1) the marriage to Richard Beggarly/Beckley; 2) the estate of Reverend Samuel Skelton; and 3) Providence. The association with the estate of Samuel Skelton is especially telling, for it would be difficult to believe that two women of high social status, Mrs. Beggarly and Mrs. Alice Daniel, would both be directly involved in the same degree in settling that estate.
Presumably Daniels is Alice's maiden name (or possibly the name of a husband prior to Richard Beggarly). She was obviously well-educated and of high social status, at least by New England standards. Further research in England, including examination of the English career of Samuel Skelton, should reveal more about this interesting woman.
In 1881 William B. Trask gathered all that was known about Alice, except for the items from the Providence town records. His suggestion that Alice's husband Richard Beggarly was the same as Richard Beckley of New Haven seems an unlikely guess.John Greene married (2) by 14 Dec 1638, Alice Beggarly. She died about 12 Jan 1643[/4]. (On 19 Jan 1643[/4], Benedict Arnold, in a postscript to a letter to John Winthrop, reported that "Mr. Green's wife is dead, about a week since.")
No children recorded of this marriage,
Anderson's Great Migration Begins.

Contribution without citation:
There were two John Greenes in early Rhode Island: John Greene, surgeon (of the Warwick Greenes) and John Greene of Quidnessett. They were second cousins once removed, the surgeon being the elder. John Greene, the surgeon, did marry as a third wife Alice Daniels, which was a married name from a first husband and whose maiden name is unknown. John Greene of Quidnessett married Joan Baggerly - which was a married name from a first husband. Her maiden name also is unknown. Here is the grave memorial ID for Joan Baggerly: 102367576∼She married John Greene during one of his business trips to Massachusetts around 1642.

There are some old dilapidated graves in what was once a part of John of Quidnessett's land.
Two of the crude headstones bear the initials D.G. and R.G., marking the graves of John's son, Daniel and his wife, Rebecca.
The oldest is marked either J.G. or I.G. and is believed to be Joan Beggarly's.


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