VAN NESTE-VAN NEST
s/o Jan/John Van Nest[e] & Sarah Bodine of New Jersey. Their children were: MY ANCESTOR John; Peter, was Reverend and Anna.
ANCESTOR LINE FROM JOHN [PETER?]: FATHER; JAN/JOHN VAN NESTE b1731 NJ; s/o PIETER/PETER PIETERSEN VAN NESTE-Van Nest b1700 NJ; s/o JORIS/GEORGE PIETERSEN VAN NEST-VAN NESTE b 1675 NY; s/o PIETER/PETER PIETERSZEN VAN NESTE b1625 Belgium/Netherlands possibly in new data research as Nes Netherlands? & wife Judick/Judith Jorise De Rapalje. Pieter Pieterszen s/o PETER b ca 1600. [Peter Pieterszen was immigrant].
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John [PETER or Warne-W?] No record found giving John Warne/John W. outside of his first wife Abigail last name was Warne. Why would he be named from 1st wife??
Old letter in Butler Co Ohio stated John as PETER by family member. Was his name John Peter?, or Peter John?---went by John and family called him Peter....??
Usually long ago children middle name followed from mother maiden name. JOHN mother was SARAH BODINE, not Warne-or W as many state. In this case name would be John Bodine.
I believe old letter calling Abigail 1st husband as PETER is correct, went by John by s/o Jan/John Van Neste.
JOHN is on postmaster in Wayne County at Millbrook Ohio where he died. John is on census also.
John m2 children give him as John. Need records & documents in NJ-where born or Ohio to prove Name. DAR members has no documents to prove John W. or John Warne as his given name. [I believe JOHN PETER is Correct name, not Warne-W.]
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Elder family always stated Moreland area.
[West Moreland, near Millbrook, Ohio]. John lived in area & post master at Millbrook, OH & died there.
NO Marker or document found on John death or burial but what others have stated. Many family members has searched cemeteries in Ohio & where his m2 children were in area of Wooster & Wayne County Ohio.
Van Neste/Van Nest to [Van Ness] when Abigail changed name when sons were young boys from NJ to Butler Co OH-Reily.] Abigail was 1st wife of John VN & remarried Gideon Wilkinson in Butler Co OH.
John m2 Catherine Heppinger/Hoppinger b 1 Maryland 1785 d Attica OH-Seneca Co OH. near Tiffin on Feb 2 1870; mar. York Co PA. date varies, need record.
Both with children. John Van Nest: mar1-Abigail children used Van Ness after leaving NJ. mar2-C. Heppinger children used Van Nest name. John urged sons by Abigail to use the paternal name of Van Nest, but they refused & still today we use Van Ness. Statement from old letter of John to his sons after finally seeing them some 50 years later.
b Sussex Co NJ?, 2 sources Essex Co. NJ & old letters in Ohio; [OR 1 source at Readington NJ-Hunterdon Co] d Millbrook, Wayne Co. Ohio near Moreland. RECORDS NEEDED ON BIRTH-DEATH-BURIAL-CHILDREN in NJ & OH.
NOTE: Too many on Ancestry have wrong family & data on Van Ness/Van Nest[e] and other families. Found 2-3 different families in one. Even some of my own personal family were complete wrong on family trees. Do your own research.. PLEASE do not use charts without Records to prove genealogy.
John was s/o Jan-John Van Neste & Sarah Bodine d/o Frederick Bodine & Sarah Rappelyea/De Rapalje. Jan died in Rev. War. Jan 1731-1781. Death record from NJ on Jan/John hasn't been found or document of military. Sarah Bodine Van Nest is to be in old section of Kerk-Dutch Reform Church at Somerville [Raritan] NJ-Somerset County. No document of record found.
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Jan/John VAN NESTE, father of John.;
pg 433 Stryker Reg of officiers & men in Rev War JOHN VAN NESTE
https://ia802703.us.archive.org/19/items/officialregister00newjuoft/officialregister00newjuoft.pdf
Van Neste John Ensign, Captain Henry Hover's company, Second Regiment, Sussex; Lieutenant, ditto.
Was in Sussex Co NJ as Lieutenant. pg 433 above book. Sussex Co Militia 2nd Regt. b Nov 20, 1731 d 1781 in service NJ.
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Believe John married to Abigail Warne was named: John Peter/poss Peter John Van Neste/Van Nest.
Old letters -1927 by Bess Braman give Abigail divorced PETER VAN NEST, -NOT John Warne-W. as his name; letters are in Butler County OH. [Bessie, d/o Bertha Wilkinson m James Braman, d/o Gideon Wilkinson jr, s/o Gideon m Mary DeCamp, s/o Gideon Wilkinson m2 Abigail Warne Van Nest[e].
Haven't seen no records to prove John W. but what someone put on a DAR paper, many with no proof or records.
Abigail Warne-Van Nest[e]-Wilkinson Memorial# 59947000
Son by m1-Daniel Van Ness Memorial# 59940388
John is buried near West Moreland/Mooreland OH according to elder Van Ness [or possibly Wooster OH?]. Many cousin has search for grave, no stone or record found. Died at Millbrook Ohio; was a post master in Millbrook-Wayne County OH. Many descendants in Wayne Co & Seneca Co cemetery.
John was a Harness maker & Postmaster & Owned general store in Millbrook OH.
Left Dillsburg PA-YORK COUNTY, to WOOSTER OH-Wayne Co in 1838 with family & wife2 Catharine.
John was at Wayne County OH & Abigail his first wife went to Butler County OH at Reily near Oxford. Many family descendants still live in area.
John children from Abigail Warne of marriage 1-used Van Ness name. Children from Catharine of marriage 2-used Van Nest name. Old letters John W. urged his children [and grandchildren] by Abigail to use Van Nest, their Ancestor name. The sons refused to carry Van Nest[e] & continue to use Van Ness.
Name used: VAN NESS [John mar Abigail 1797 NJ-Readington]
John & Abigail Warne d/o Joseph Warne & Margaret 'Peggy' Van Vliet; had children:
1]Daniel b June 26 1803 Essex Co. NJ [MY Ancestor]Essex Co NJ by family. d Jan 29, 1896 New Lancaster, Tipton Co IN.
2]Furman b 1800-1867 Arkansas- [?some list 1806 for birth?]
3]Elisha Elijah b 1801-1883 Oxford, Butler Co Ohio
4]Joseph b Jan 18, 1798 NJ-1876 Eddyville, Monroe Co Iowa-NJ proof of his birth.
5]Scott b 1804 d 1808 d young Reily, Butler Co. Ohio-Indian Creek Pioneer Cemetery at Reily.
6]Ephraim b 1799 Butler Co Ohio
NOTE: Butler Co OH-- Old Letters by Bessie states: children as Daniel, Scott, Elijah, Ephriam. Bessie 'Bess' Wilkinson Braman, is related from Abigail & Gideon Wilkinson children of 2nd marriages. Ancestor lines: Bessie H. Hannah; her mother Bertha E. Wilkinson; her father Gideon Marsh Wilkinson mar Margaret McCloskey; his father Abraham mar Harriet Hawkins; to OUR Gideon Wilkinson & Abigail Warne Van Nest[e]/Van Ness.
Bess stated all 4 Van Ness boys were born in Essex Co NJ, Contrary to what one might find in Butler Co OH history published 1882. Facts as recorded in the Essex Co court house. She said Abigail was divorced from PETER [John Peter ?] & Gideon Wilkinson was divorced from Elizabeth. Bess tells of family & that Daniel [my ancestor] married & went to Kentucky; his wife died & he brought 3 little children home to Abigail who kept them till he re-married. The children adored Abigail. [Shilling sisters]. 1 child Furman by 1st wife Barbara Shilling [died in storm when she passed her infant son to Daniel & a tree fell on her & the horse killing them; 2nd wife Susannah Shilling, had more children then sister, then married 3rd wife Mary E Christman/Crissman last [my ancestor]. Bess said in letters about Abigail mom Margaret [Van Vliet-Warne] were doctors [Joseph & Peggy Vliet Warne] in Rev. War. She saw letter written by Margaret 'Peggy' to Abigail urging her to divorce a mean man [John 'Peter' W.]. One older Van Ness men had it & destroyed it as it reflected in the character of his paternal ancestors. Written before divorce. Due to derogatory remarks were made about his grandfather, he destroyed a relic [valuable old letter]. The Van Ness had never seen his grandpa Van Ness yet as an old man in his 70's. He still felt Abigail had survived by divorcing a mean man. Quotes in old letters.
Ancestor line goes back to Pieter/Peter Pieterszen Van Neste/Van Nest of Netherlands & Judith De Rapalje.
Pieter P. s/o Pieter/Peter s/o Antoin s/o Peter. Need documents in Netherlands. Ancestor data from Utrech Netherlands. New data is finding our Netherland Van Neste in Belgium, with the family descend from Jacob Van Neste/Van Den Nest. More records are being search.
Pieter P. Van Neste had son Joris/George VN, had son Pieter, son Jan/John to John [Peter/W.-Warne?] Van Neste/Van Nest.
John lived in NJ, York Co PA with his 2nd wife Catherine, then moved to Ohio in Wayne County.
War of 1812: John Van Neste/Van Nest.
Gov't Dept: pg 18; Officiers & Men in War NJ-from 1791 to 1815, Washington DC record of War Dept.
Enlisted as Private in Capt. Jos. Williamson's Company-Sussex Co NJ- August 17, 1812. Discharged Sept 25, 1812. Enlisted for time until discharged.
Name used: VAN NESTE on record, and Van Nest:
Wife 2: Catherine Heppinger/Hoppinger b Maryland d Attica near Tiffin, Seneca County Ohio.
Children born near York Co Penn. & Ohio.
Son John VanNest by marriage 2...Memorial# 43335957; John b 1815 PA
Son Peter Van Nest by m2....Memorial# 69026589; Peter b 1813 PA & lived Tiffin, Seneca County Ohio. Had a carriage shop.
Son Daniel b 1808
Son George
Daughter Rebecca by m2...Find A Grave Memorial# 154192250; Rebecca m Cyrus McClaran. She was b York Co PA, died Indiana. See her legacy with marriage & death certificate. In 1850 census: John 75-Catharine 65 with Rebecca; 1850:
Franklin, Wayne, Ohio. Rebecca was 20yr.
Daughters:
Mary
Margaret Anne
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Van Nest John [Peter/or Warne?] wife2: Catharine 1860 census, Plain Twp-Wayne Co Ohio
Believe this is John Van Nest[e] 2nd wife: Catharine Heppinger/Hoppinger burial plot. She died Seneca Co near Attica. Her son Peter lived in Seneca County.
NOTE: Catharine Vanest on cemetery data.
[CATHARINE VAN NEST/VAN NESTE]
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohio/seneca/attica_venice_suwh.htm
d. ca 86 years. cemetery site
Burial:
Attica Venice Township Joint Cemetery
Attica, Seneca County
Located: in Venice twp. in Attica near fairgrounds.
This cemetery is located RIGHT beside Sts. Peter and Paul Cemetery and it is virtually impossible to tell without a map where one ends and the other begins. St. Peter and Paul is for Catholic folks and this one is for non-Catholics.
Found this on Find A Grave: Catharine Vanest
Find A Grave Memorial# 68349828
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Van Neste John [ July 30,[1814] wife Catharine, is marriage 2 of John ]
John Van Nest & Catherine [Heppinger/Hoppinger] his wife of the Township of Franklin County of York, and State of Penn. Of the one part, to John Blosser of the Township of Reding Co of Adams and State afore said for the Consideration of [950.00], conveyed a tract of land situated in Franklin Township containing 31 acres & 144 perches. Signed & Sealed the year above written. John Van Nest [seal]
Catharine Van Nest, X mark her. [seal]
Sealed & delivered in the presence of Michael Barnhart & Thomas Black
York County ss
Before me the subscriber one of the Justices of the Peace, in & for the said County personally appeared John Van Nest & Catherine his wife & acknowledged the foregoing Indenture to be their act & deed and desired that the same might be recorded as such, she the said Catherine being of full age & by me examined separate & apart from her husband and the contents made known to her, and she voluntarily became a party. The Testimony Whereof, I have here unto set my hand & seal the 26th day of March, 1814.
Thomas Black [seal]
And copy was taken & compared with the original at York the 15th day of August A.D. 1814. J. Barnitz-recorder
Deed recorded in record book: 2 Z, page 272
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Letters to his sons after reuniting with them almost 50 years later: Quotes with dates.
Moreland, Ohio Jan. 19, 1850. John Van Nest
Extracts of letter written by John Van Nest to his son, Elijah
He is 75 years old, writes of his sons Joseph and Elijah visiting him. Had not seen them for 35 years. Mention his daughter and son Peter by his second marriage. Peter was living in Tiffin, Ohio. Writes of his brother Peter being 91 years old. Also writes of his son George who was in California, 21 years old. He, George, was in all the battles fought under Scott during the Mexican War. Writes of it being 45 years since he dangled his children on his knee. Writes of having married a handsome young girl of 17, but he was not satisfied; he wanted, or rather thought of his first wife & children. His first wife, Abigail Warne, she told the children their father was dead.
Jan. 10, 1851
John Van Nest writes of death, his only brother, Rev. Peter Van Ness; on Oct. 17, last; in his 93rd year. Was in the ministry 54 years. Had one sister living who was 83 year old. John W. was the youngest of his family. Writes of living in New Jersey when his wife left him.
Millbrook, Ohio July 5, 1854 Speaks again of Joseph, his son.
Extracts of letters by John W. Van Nest
Millbrook, Ohio Nov. 2, 1855
Writes of separation of himself & wife Abigail. Writes of being a leading character among the Methodists and also of his only brother being a preacher in high standing among them, until his death; died in his 94th year, the oldest preacher in America, one of Wesley's converts in England. Blamed the grandmother Warne for the trouble with his wife. His son [John-of 2nd marriage] was Justice of the Peace & Postmaster for many years. Had a daughter who moved from Penn. To Huron County Ohio, where husband's name was John Polinger. Writes of death of his two daughters in Iowa.
Moreland, Ohio August 7, 1851
Writes of being bereaved over his lost sons for upwards of 40 years.
Rev. Peter Van Nest was born 1757, died Oct. 17, 1850. He was 17 years older than his brother John W.. Their father died in the Revolutionary War.
John W. Van Nest was born 1774. Sister born 1768 [Anne].
John 1812 Sussex Co NJ Militia...pvt NJ b 1774 NJ d Ohio 1862; Vol. 34; member 6558 D of 1812 son Furman. d Millbrook OH-Moreland
I have been in contact with Rose Elmore family before 1990 on genealogy. [Rose used John Warne as name--no record to prove]
notes of Thomas Macy:
Per my Great aunt, Rose (VanNess) Elmore wrote in her family records, dated June 30, 1932, John W. VanNest wrote letters to her father, Daniel VanNest, in the years of 1851 through 1853. She stated that she got most of her personal information from these letters. she states that John W. moved from New York to Ohio in 1838 and was Postmaster in Millbrook. He also had a general store.
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Quote: Letter:
Old Letter Oxford Ohio Sept 15, 1921 Mrs. Alice Van Ness Ferguson
Dear Cousin
Received your letter & will give you all the information I can. I think you can get the best information by writing to Peter Van Neste at Wooster, Ohio. The last account I had of him he was Mayor of that city, that was some time ago. Your Great Grandfather John Van Nest, was my Grandfather. He & his wife separated. John Van Neste had four sons by his first wife {ABIGAIL WARNE}, oldest was Joseph who lived & died & was buried in St. Joseph MO. I don't know which was the older, your Grandfather or my father, who name was Elijah, born Feb 12, 1801 & d. June 19, 1883. Your grandfather's name was Furman & Daniel was the youngest. {Note: This is Wilma J. Van Ness-Jervis-Marion gggrandfather}. I have nothing to show when he was born, but he died at Elwood, Indiana, lived to be over 90 years old. He has several children living in that vicinity. They go by the name of "VAN NESS". My father was married twice, there being two sets of children. His first wife was Rebecca Whelden & there were 5 children, two girls and 3 boys, none living. She died July 1, 1841. His second wife was Elizabeth Tucker, who was my mother, and she is gone. There 6 children, 2 girls and 4 boys. Four of us still living. I am the oldest of the living, will be 77 next April. Father & Uncle Joe and Uncle Furman when they started to school for fear of being teased about the name and be called chicken nest changed their name from Van Nest to Van Ness.
I have book that Grandfather Van Nest sent me in 1852. I was named for him & he wanted me to write my name Van Nest, but father would not allow it.
I have several letters written by my grandfather to my father, so I know I am writing facts to you about our name. That is why I want you to write to Peter Van Neste as I think you can get the most information from him. I am most sure you can get the birth & death of my grandfather from him. Grandmother was buried at the old Baptist graveyard [which is almost a thing of the past], several miles fro here. I will go there & try to find the date of her birth & death and write to you later. Would you like to write me about your father's last illness & death. I have his photo on a card that he sent me.
After you have heard from Peter Van Neste at Wooster, Ohio, would like you to write me the information you get. If Peter Van Neste sends you the date of birth & death of Grandfather, John Van Nest, would like for you to write & tell me. Have often thought of going to see where Grandfather was buried & to see Peter as he has wanted me to come to see him. I have no one but a daughter and granddaughter of my own family as both wives are dead. Last one passed away the 26th of last February. I am living with my sister Jennie, Your cousin John Van Nest, Oxford Ohio.
P.S. Written by Addie Van Ness Morris for John Van Nest. I am his half brother's daughter. Gideon was my father's name & after his death in 1886 I made my home with John Van Ness and his first wife, or rather double relations. John Van Ness & Gideon Van Ness were half brothers & their wives were sisters.
Most Elder VanNess stated it was Abigail Warne VanNest[e] that changed the name from Van Nest so John couldn't locate them when they left New Jersey to Ohio. Most common story I heard on name change from descendants.
Joseph son of John & Abigail Warne Van Nest-- Joseph stated to his descendants that Abigail changed spelling of name so John W. wouldn't know their whereabouts & couldn't
find the children.
Elijah son of John & Abigail Warne Van Nest- Elijah descendants states in letters to cousin it was the boys changed the name to Van Ness & refused their family to use the Van Nest spelling. Due to facts when they were young, they were teased badly at school & called " Chicken Nest".
No matter how the name changed to VAN NESS, WE ALL ARE A
VAN NESTE/VAN NESS/possibly in Netherlands Van Den Neste.
Wayne County Ohio: pg.79
J.P. Van Nest was born in Rowsburg, Ashland Co. Ohio Aug. 6, 1841; he married October 3, 1861 to Mary E. Gardner of the village...Had 8 children,,,His father was John who was an early settler in that section of Northern Ohio... J.P. [Joseph] grandfather was John Van Nest..[.John W.];
Note: John P. Van Nest home in Wooster Ohio. He is the son of John Van Nest that came from PA about 1838. He was in the insurance business in Wooster.
John W. Van Nest died in Millbrook Ohio in the fall of 1862, age 87 yrs. and buried at Moorland/Mooreland, Wayne County Ohio. His wife [2nd] would been Catherine Hoppinger died at Tiffin, Seneca County, Ohio at 75 yrs.
Family lived in NJ near this area.
Readington/Redington NJ
Raritan/Somerville NJ
John Van Nest d Millbrook Ohio; Vol. # 25A 1857-1873 US Postmaster; see Records of Appointments of Post Masters 1832; Sept 30-1971 Achives# M841
John died at Millbrook, Wayne Co OH and was to be buried near West Moreland OH Cemetery area ....John is not in Wooster OH Cemetery listing?
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This article give JOHN as JOHN P VAN NEST[E}-Van Ness.
Kansas
Portrait and biographical album of Jackson, Jefferson and Pottawatomie counties, Kansas
pg 750
[Freeman]/Freemon Elmore is subject of article that married Rose Etta Van Ness, d/o Daniel Joseph Van Nest[e]/Van Ness, m Lucy Neet -Daniel s/o Joseph Van Nest b NJ , m Sarah Crooks, Joseph s/o John P Van Neste/Van Nest b NJ and Abigail Warne
See Link Below:
https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/250627/?offset=#page=732&viewer=picture&o=info&n=0&q=
https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/250627/?offset=#page=732&viewer=picture&o=info&n=0&q=
s/o Jan/John Van Nest[e] & Sarah Bodine of New Jersey. Their children were: MY ANCESTOR John; Peter, was Reverend and Anna.
ANCESTOR LINE FROM JOHN [PETER?]: FATHER; JAN/JOHN VAN NESTE b1731 NJ; s/o PIETER/PETER PIETERSEN VAN NESTE-Van Nest b1700 NJ; s/o JORIS/GEORGE PIETERSEN VAN NEST-VAN NESTE b 1675 NY; s/o PIETER/PETER PIETERSZEN VAN NESTE b1625 Belgium/Netherlands possibly in new data research as Nes Netherlands? & wife Judick/Judith Jorise De Rapalje. Pieter Pieterszen s/o PETER b ca 1600. [Peter Pieterszen was immigrant].
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John [PETER or Warne-W?] No record found giving John Warne/John W. outside of his first wife Abigail last name was Warne. Why would he be named from 1st wife??
Old letter in Butler Co Ohio stated John as PETER by family member. Was his name John Peter?, or Peter John?---went by John and family called him Peter....??
Usually long ago children middle name followed from mother maiden name. JOHN mother was SARAH BODINE, not Warne-or W as many state. In this case name would be John Bodine.
I believe old letter calling Abigail 1st husband as PETER is correct, went by John by s/o Jan/John Van Neste.
JOHN is on postmaster in Wayne County at Millbrook Ohio where he died. John is on census also.
John m2 children give him as John. Need records & documents in NJ-where born or Ohio to prove Name. DAR members has no documents to prove John W. or John Warne as his given name. [I believe JOHN PETER is Correct name, not Warne-W.]
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Elder family always stated Moreland area.
[West Moreland, near Millbrook, Ohio]. John lived in area & post master at Millbrook, OH & died there.
NO Marker or document found on John death or burial but what others have stated. Many family members has searched cemeteries in Ohio & where his m2 children were in area of Wooster & Wayne County Ohio.
Van Neste/Van Nest to [Van Ness] when Abigail changed name when sons were young boys from NJ to Butler Co OH-Reily.] Abigail was 1st wife of John VN & remarried Gideon Wilkinson in Butler Co OH.
John m2 Catherine Heppinger/Hoppinger b 1 Maryland 1785 d Attica OH-Seneca Co OH. near Tiffin on Feb 2 1870; mar. York Co PA. date varies, need record.
Both with children. John Van Nest: mar1-Abigail children used Van Ness after leaving NJ. mar2-C. Heppinger children used Van Nest name. John urged sons by Abigail to use the paternal name of Van Nest, but they refused & still today we use Van Ness. Statement from old letter of John to his sons after finally seeing them some 50 years later.
b Sussex Co NJ?, 2 sources Essex Co. NJ & old letters in Ohio; [OR 1 source at Readington NJ-Hunterdon Co] d Millbrook, Wayne Co. Ohio near Moreland. RECORDS NEEDED ON BIRTH-DEATH-BURIAL-CHILDREN in NJ & OH.
NOTE: Too many on Ancestry have wrong family & data on Van Ness/Van Nest[e] and other families. Found 2-3 different families in one. Even some of my own personal family were complete wrong on family trees. Do your own research.. PLEASE do not use charts without Records to prove genealogy.
John was s/o Jan-John Van Neste & Sarah Bodine d/o Frederick Bodine & Sarah Rappelyea/De Rapalje. Jan died in Rev. War. Jan 1731-1781. Death record from NJ on Jan/John hasn't been found or document of military. Sarah Bodine Van Nest is to be in old section of Kerk-Dutch Reform Church at Somerville [Raritan] NJ-Somerset County. No document of record found.
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Jan/John VAN NESTE, father of John.;
pg 433 Stryker Reg of officiers & men in Rev War JOHN VAN NESTE
https://ia802703.us.archive.org/19/items/officialregister00newjuoft/officialregister00newjuoft.pdf
Van Neste John Ensign, Captain Henry Hover's company, Second Regiment, Sussex; Lieutenant, ditto.
Was in Sussex Co NJ as Lieutenant. pg 433 above book. Sussex Co Militia 2nd Regt. b Nov 20, 1731 d 1781 in service NJ.
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Believe John married to Abigail Warne was named: John Peter/poss Peter John Van Neste/Van Nest.
Old letters -1927 by Bess Braman give Abigail divorced PETER VAN NEST, -NOT John Warne-W. as his name; letters are in Butler County OH. [Bessie, d/o Bertha Wilkinson m James Braman, d/o Gideon Wilkinson jr, s/o Gideon m Mary DeCamp, s/o Gideon Wilkinson m2 Abigail Warne Van Nest[e].
Haven't seen no records to prove John W. but what someone put on a DAR paper, many with no proof or records.
Abigail Warne-Van Nest[e]-Wilkinson Memorial# 59947000
Son by m1-Daniel Van Ness Memorial# 59940388
John is buried near West Moreland/Mooreland OH according to elder Van Ness [or possibly Wooster OH?]. Many cousin has search for grave, no stone or record found. Died at Millbrook Ohio; was a post master in Millbrook-Wayne County OH. Many descendants in Wayne Co & Seneca Co cemetery.
John was a Harness maker & Postmaster & Owned general store in Millbrook OH.
Left Dillsburg PA-YORK COUNTY, to WOOSTER OH-Wayne Co in 1838 with family & wife2 Catharine.
John was at Wayne County OH & Abigail his first wife went to Butler County OH at Reily near Oxford. Many family descendants still live in area.
John children from Abigail Warne of marriage 1-used Van Ness name. Children from Catharine of marriage 2-used Van Nest name. Old letters John W. urged his children [and grandchildren] by Abigail to use Van Nest, their Ancestor name. The sons refused to carry Van Nest[e] & continue to use Van Ness.
Name used: VAN NESS [John mar Abigail 1797 NJ-Readington]
John & Abigail Warne d/o Joseph Warne & Margaret 'Peggy' Van Vliet; had children:
1]Daniel b June 26 1803 Essex Co. NJ [MY Ancestor]Essex Co NJ by family. d Jan 29, 1896 New Lancaster, Tipton Co IN.
2]Furman b 1800-1867 Arkansas- [?some list 1806 for birth?]
3]Elisha Elijah b 1801-1883 Oxford, Butler Co Ohio
4]Joseph b Jan 18, 1798 NJ-1876 Eddyville, Monroe Co Iowa-NJ proof of his birth.
5]Scott b 1804 d 1808 d young Reily, Butler Co. Ohio-Indian Creek Pioneer Cemetery at Reily.
6]Ephraim b 1799 Butler Co Ohio
NOTE: Butler Co OH-- Old Letters by Bessie states: children as Daniel, Scott, Elijah, Ephriam. Bessie 'Bess' Wilkinson Braman, is related from Abigail & Gideon Wilkinson children of 2nd marriages. Ancestor lines: Bessie H. Hannah; her mother Bertha E. Wilkinson; her father Gideon Marsh Wilkinson mar Margaret McCloskey; his father Abraham mar Harriet Hawkins; to OUR Gideon Wilkinson & Abigail Warne Van Nest[e]/Van Ness.
Bess stated all 4 Van Ness boys were born in Essex Co NJ, Contrary to what one might find in Butler Co OH history published 1882. Facts as recorded in the Essex Co court house. She said Abigail was divorced from PETER [John Peter ?] & Gideon Wilkinson was divorced from Elizabeth. Bess tells of family & that Daniel [my ancestor] married & went to Kentucky; his wife died & he brought 3 little children home to Abigail who kept them till he re-married. The children adored Abigail. [Shilling sisters]. 1 child Furman by 1st wife Barbara Shilling [died in storm when she passed her infant son to Daniel & a tree fell on her & the horse killing them; 2nd wife Susannah Shilling, had more children then sister, then married 3rd wife Mary E Christman/Crissman last [my ancestor]. Bess said in letters about Abigail mom Margaret [Van Vliet-Warne] were doctors [Joseph & Peggy Vliet Warne] in Rev. War. She saw letter written by Margaret 'Peggy' to Abigail urging her to divorce a mean man [John 'Peter' W.]. One older Van Ness men had it & destroyed it as it reflected in the character of his paternal ancestors. Written before divorce. Due to derogatory remarks were made about his grandfather, he destroyed a relic [valuable old letter]. The Van Ness had never seen his grandpa Van Ness yet as an old man in his 70's. He still felt Abigail had survived by divorcing a mean man. Quotes in old letters.
Ancestor line goes back to Pieter/Peter Pieterszen Van Neste/Van Nest of Netherlands & Judith De Rapalje.
Pieter P. s/o Pieter/Peter s/o Antoin s/o Peter. Need documents in Netherlands. Ancestor data from Utrech Netherlands. New data is finding our Netherland Van Neste in Belgium, with the family descend from Jacob Van Neste/Van Den Nest. More records are being search.
Pieter P. Van Neste had son Joris/George VN, had son Pieter, son Jan/John to John [Peter/W.-Warne?] Van Neste/Van Nest.
John lived in NJ, York Co PA with his 2nd wife Catherine, then moved to Ohio in Wayne County.
War of 1812: John Van Neste/Van Nest.
Gov't Dept: pg 18; Officiers & Men in War NJ-from 1791 to 1815, Washington DC record of War Dept.
Enlisted as Private in Capt. Jos. Williamson's Company-Sussex Co NJ- August 17, 1812. Discharged Sept 25, 1812. Enlisted for time until discharged.
Name used: VAN NESTE on record, and Van Nest:
Wife 2: Catherine Heppinger/Hoppinger b Maryland d Attica near Tiffin, Seneca County Ohio.
Children born near York Co Penn. & Ohio.
Son John VanNest by marriage 2...Memorial# 43335957; John b 1815 PA
Son Peter Van Nest by m2....Memorial# 69026589; Peter b 1813 PA & lived Tiffin, Seneca County Ohio. Had a carriage shop.
Son Daniel b 1808
Son George
Daughter Rebecca by m2...Find A Grave Memorial# 154192250; Rebecca m Cyrus McClaran. She was b York Co PA, died Indiana. See her legacy with marriage & death certificate. In 1850 census: John 75-Catharine 65 with Rebecca; 1850:
Franklin, Wayne, Ohio. Rebecca was 20yr.
Daughters:
Mary
Margaret Anne
==============Catharine Heppinger-Van Nest[e]========
Van Nest John [Peter/or Warne?] wife2: Catharine 1860 census, Plain Twp-Wayne Co Ohio
Believe this is John Van Nest[e] 2nd wife: Catharine Heppinger/Hoppinger burial plot. She died Seneca Co near Attica. Her son Peter lived in Seneca County.
NOTE: Catharine Vanest on cemetery data.
[CATHARINE VAN NEST/VAN NESTE]
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohio/seneca/attica_venice_suwh.htm
d. ca 86 years. cemetery site
Burial:
Attica Venice Township Joint Cemetery
Attica, Seneca County
Located: in Venice twp. in Attica near fairgrounds.
This cemetery is located RIGHT beside Sts. Peter and Paul Cemetery and it is virtually impossible to tell without a map where one ends and the other begins. St. Peter and Paul is for Catholic folks and this one is for non-Catholics.
Found this on Find A Grave: Catharine Vanest
Find A Grave Memorial# 68349828
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Van Neste John [ July 30,[1814] wife Catharine, is marriage 2 of John ]
John Van Nest & Catherine [Heppinger/Hoppinger] his wife of the Township of Franklin County of York, and State of Penn. Of the one part, to John Blosser of the Township of Reding Co of Adams and State afore said for the Consideration of [950.00], conveyed a tract of land situated in Franklin Township containing 31 acres & 144 perches. Signed & Sealed the year above written. John Van Nest [seal]
Catharine Van Nest, X mark her. [seal]
Sealed & delivered in the presence of Michael Barnhart & Thomas Black
York County ss
Before me the subscriber one of the Justices of the Peace, in & for the said County personally appeared John Van Nest & Catherine his wife & acknowledged the foregoing Indenture to be their act & deed and desired that the same might be recorded as such, she the said Catherine being of full age & by me examined separate & apart from her husband and the contents made known to her, and she voluntarily became a party. The Testimony Whereof, I have here unto set my hand & seal the 26th day of March, 1814.
Thomas Black [seal]
And copy was taken & compared with the original at York the 15th day of August A.D. 1814. J. Barnitz-recorder
Deed recorded in record book: 2 Z, page 272
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Letters to his sons after reuniting with them almost 50 years later: Quotes with dates.
Moreland, Ohio Jan. 19, 1850. John Van Nest
Extracts of letter written by John Van Nest to his son, Elijah
He is 75 years old, writes of his sons Joseph and Elijah visiting him. Had not seen them for 35 years. Mention his daughter and son Peter by his second marriage. Peter was living in Tiffin, Ohio. Writes of his brother Peter being 91 years old. Also writes of his son George who was in California, 21 years old. He, George, was in all the battles fought under Scott during the Mexican War. Writes of it being 45 years since he dangled his children on his knee. Writes of having married a handsome young girl of 17, but he was not satisfied; he wanted, or rather thought of his first wife & children. His first wife, Abigail Warne, she told the children their father was dead.
Jan. 10, 1851
John Van Nest writes of death, his only brother, Rev. Peter Van Ness; on Oct. 17, last; in his 93rd year. Was in the ministry 54 years. Had one sister living who was 83 year old. John W. was the youngest of his family. Writes of living in New Jersey when his wife left him.
Millbrook, Ohio July 5, 1854 Speaks again of Joseph, his son.
Extracts of letters by John W. Van Nest
Millbrook, Ohio Nov. 2, 1855
Writes of separation of himself & wife Abigail. Writes of being a leading character among the Methodists and also of his only brother being a preacher in high standing among them, until his death; died in his 94th year, the oldest preacher in America, one of Wesley's converts in England. Blamed the grandmother Warne for the trouble with his wife. His son [John-of 2nd marriage] was Justice of the Peace & Postmaster for many years. Had a daughter who moved from Penn. To Huron County Ohio, where husband's name was John Polinger. Writes of death of his two daughters in Iowa.
Moreland, Ohio August 7, 1851
Writes of being bereaved over his lost sons for upwards of 40 years.
Rev. Peter Van Nest was born 1757, died Oct. 17, 1850. He was 17 years older than his brother John W.. Their father died in the Revolutionary War.
John W. Van Nest was born 1774. Sister born 1768 [Anne].
John 1812 Sussex Co NJ Militia...pvt NJ b 1774 NJ d Ohio 1862; Vol. 34; member 6558 D of 1812 son Furman. d Millbrook OH-Moreland
I have been in contact with Rose Elmore family before 1990 on genealogy. [Rose used John Warne as name--no record to prove]
notes of Thomas Macy:
Per my Great aunt, Rose (VanNess) Elmore wrote in her family records, dated June 30, 1932, John W. VanNest wrote letters to her father, Daniel VanNest, in the years of 1851 through 1853. She stated that she got most of her personal information from these letters. she states that John W. moved from New York to Ohio in 1838 and was Postmaster in Millbrook. He also had a general store.
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Quote: Letter:
Old Letter Oxford Ohio Sept 15, 1921 Mrs. Alice Van Ness Ferguson
Dear Cousin
Received your letter & will give you all the information I can. I think you can get the best information by writing to Peter Van Neste at Wooster, Ohio. The last account I had of him he was Mayor of that city, that was some time ago. Your Great Grandfather John Van Nest, was my Grandfather. He & his wife separated. John Van Neste had four sons by his first wife {ABIGAIL WARNE}, oldest was Joseph who lived & died & was buried in St. Joseph MO. I don't know which was the older, your Grandfather or my father, who name was Elijah, born Feb 12, 1801 & d. June 19, 1883. Your grandfather's name was Furman & Daniel was the youngest. {Note: This is Wilma J. Van Ness-Jervis-Marion gggrandfather}. I have nothing to show when he was born, but he died at Elwood, Indiana, lived to be over 90 years old. He has several children living in that vicinity. They go by the name of "VAN NESS". My father was married twice, there being two sets of children. His first wife was Rebecca Whelden & there were 5 children, two girls and 3 boys, none living. She died July 1, 1841. His second wife was Elizabeth Tucker, who was my mother, and she is gone. There 6 children, 2 girls and 4 boys. Four of us still living. I am the oldest of the living, will be 77 next April. Father & Uncle Joe and Uncle Furman when they started to school for fear of being teased about the name and be called chicken nest changed their name from Van Nest to Van Ness.
I have book that Grandfather Van Nest sent me in 1852. I was named for him & he wanted me to write my name Van Nest, but father would not allow it.
I have several letters written by my grandfather to my father, so I know I am writing facts to you about our name. That is why I want you to write to Peter Van Neste as I think you can get the most information from him. I am most sure you can get the birth & death of my grandfather from him. Grandmother was buried at the old Baptist graveyard [which is almost a thing of the past], several miles fro here. I will go there & try to find the date of her birth & death and write to you later. Would you like to write me about your father's last illness & death. I have his photo on a card that he sent me.
After you have heard from Peter Van Neste at Wooster, Ohio, would like you to write me the information you get. If Peter Van Neste sends you the date of birth & death of Grandfather, John Van Nest, would like for you to write & tell me. Have often thought of going to see where Grandfather was buried & to see Peter as he has wanted me to come to see him. I have no one but a daughter and granddaughter of my own family as both wives are dead. Last one passed away the 26th of last February. I am living with my sister Jennie, Your cousin John Van Nest, Oxford Ohio.
P.S. Written by Addie Van Ness Morris for John Van Nest. I am his half brother's daughter. Gideon was my father's name & after his death in 1886 I made my home with John Van Ness and his first wife, or rather double relations. John Van Ness & Gideon Van Ness were half brothers & their wives were sisters.
Most Elder VanNess stated it was Abigail Warne VanNest[e] that changed the name from Van Nest so John couldn't locate them when they left New Jersey to Ohio. Most common story I heard on name change from descendants.
Joseph son of John & Abigail Warne Van Nest-- Joseph stated to his descendants that Abigail changed spelling of name so John W. wouldn't know their whereabouts & couldn't
find the children.
Elijah son of John & Abigail Warne Van Nest- Elijah descendants states in letters to cousin it was the boys changed the name to Van Ness & refused their family to use the Van Nest spelling. Due to facts when they were young, they were teased badly at school & called " Chicken Nest".
No matter how the name changed to VAN NESS, WE ALL ARE A
VAN NESTE/VAN NESS/possibly in Netherlands Van Den Neste.
Wayne County Ohio: pg.79
J.P. Van Nest was born in Rowsburg, Ashland Co. Ohio Aug. 6, 1841; he married October 3, 1861 to Mary E. Gardner of the village...Had 8 children,,,His father was John who was an early settler in that section of Northern Ohio... J.P. [Joseph] grandfather was John Van Nest..[.John W.];
Note: John P. Van Nest home in Wooster Ohio. He is the son of John Van Nest that came from PA about 1838. He was in the insurance business in Wooster.
John W. Van Nest died in Millbrook Ohio in the fall of 1862, age 87 yrs. and buried at Moorland/Mooreland, Wayne County Ohio. His wife [2nd] would been Catherine Hoppinger died at Tiffin, Seneca County, Ohio at 75 yrs.
Family lived in NJ near this area.
Readington/Redington NJ
Raritan/Somerville NJ
John Van Nest d Millbrook Ohio; Vol. # 25A 1857-1873 US Postmaster; see Records of Appointments of Post Masters 1832; Sept 30-1971 Achives# M841
John died at Millbrook, Wayne Co OH and was to be buried near West Moreland OH Cemetery area ....John is not in Wooster OH Cemetery listing?
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This article give JOHN as JOHN P VAN NEST[E}-Van Ness.
Kansas
Portrait and biographical album of Jackson, Jefferson and Pottawatomie counties, Kansas
pg 750
[Freeman]/Freemon Elmore is subject of article that married Rose Etta Van Ness, d/o Daniel Joseph Van Nest[e]/Van Ness, m Lucy Neet -Daniel s/o Joseph Van Nest b NJ , m Sarah Crooks, Joseph s/o John P Van Neste/Van Nest b NJ and Abigail Warne
See Link Below:
https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/250627/?offset=#page=732&viewer=picture&o=info&n=0&q=
https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/250627/?offset=#page=732&viewer=picture&o=info&n=0&q=
VAN NESTE-VAN NEST
s/o Jan/John Van Nest[e] & Sarah Bodine of New Jersey. Their children were: MY ANCESTOR John; Peter, was Reverend and Anna.
ANCESTOR LINE FROM JOHN [PETER?]: FATHER; JAN/JOHN VAN NESTE b1731 NJ; s/o PIETER/PETER PIETERSEN VAN NESTE-Van Nest b1700 NJ; s/o JORIS/GEORGE PIETERSEN VAN NEST-VAN NESTE b 1675 NY; s/o PIETER/PETER PIETERSZEN VAN NESTE b1625 Belgium/Netherlands possibly in new data research as Nes Netherlands? & wife Judick/Judith Jorise De Rapalje. Pieter Pieterszen s/o PETER b ca 1600. [Peter Pieterszen was immigrant].
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John [PETER or Warne-W?] No record found giving John Warne/John W. outside of his first wife Abigail last name was Warne. Why would he be named from 1st wife??
Old letter in Butler Co Ohio stated John as PETER by family member. Was his name John Peter?, or Peter John?---went by John and family called him Peter....??
Usually long ago children middle name followed from mother maiden name. JOHN mother was SARAH BODINE, not Warne-or W as many state. In this case name would be John Bodine.
I believe old letter calling Abigail 1st husband as PETER is correct, went by John by s/o Jan/John Van Neste.
JOHN is on postmaster in Wayne County at Millbrook Ohio where he died. John is on census also.
John m2 children give him as John. Need records & documents in NJ-where born or Ohio to prove Name. DAR members has no documents to prove John W. or John Warne as his given name. [I believe JOHN PETER is Correct name, not Warne-W.]
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Elder family always stated Moreland area.
[West Moreland, near Millbrook, Ohio]. John lived in area & post master at Millbrook, OH & died there.
NO Marker or document found on John death or burial but what others have stated. Many family members has searched cemeteries in Ohio & where his m2 children were in area of Wooster & Wayne County Ohio.
Van Neste/Van Nest to [Van Ness] when Abigail changed name when sons were young boys from NJ to Butler Co OH-Reily.] Abigail was 1st wife of John VN & remarried Gideon Wilkinson in Butler Co OH.
John m2 Catherine Heppinger/Hoppinger b 1 Maryland 1785 d Attica OH-Seneca Co OH. near Tiffin on Feb 2 1870; mar. York Co PA. date varies, need record.
Both with children. John Van Nest: mar1-Abigail children used Van Ness after leaving NJ. mar2-C. Heppinger children used Van Nest name. John urged sons by Abigail to use the paternal name of Van Nest, but they refused & still today we use Van Ness. Statement from old letter of John to his sons after finally seeing them some 50 years later.
b Sussex Co NJ?, 2 sources Essex Co. NJ & old letters in Ohio; [OR 1 source at Readington NJ-Hunterdon Co] d Millbrook, Wayne Co. Ohio near Moreland. RECORDS NEEDED ON BIRTH-DEATH-BURIAL-CHILDREN in NJ & OH.
NOTE: Too many on Ancestry have wrong family & data on Van Ness/Van Nest[e] and other families. Found 2-3 different families in one. Even some of my own personal family were complete wrong on family trees. Do your own research.. PLEASE do not use charts without Records to prove genealogy.
John was s/o Jan-John Van Neste & Sarah Bodine d/o Frederick Bodine & Sarah Rappelyea/De Rapalje. Jan died in Rev. War. Jan 1731-1781. Death record from NJ on Jan/John hasn't been found or document of military. Sarah Bodine Van Nest is to be in old section of Kerk-Dutch Reform Church at Somerville [Raritan] NJ-Somerset County. No document of record found.
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Jan/John VAN NESTE, father of John.;
pg 433 Stryker Reg of officiers & men in Rev War JOHN VAN NESTE
https://ia802703.us.archive.org/19/items/officialregister00newjuoft/officialregister00newjuoft.pdf
Van Neste John Ensign, Captain Henry Hover's company, Second Regiment, Sussex; Lieutenant, ditto.
Was in Sussex Co NJ as Lieutenant. pg 433 above book. Sussex Co Militia 2nd Regt. b Nov 20, 1731 d 1781 in service NJ.
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Believe John married to Abigail Warne was named: John Peter/poss Peter John Van Neste/Van Nest.
Old letters -1927 by Bess Braman give Abigail divorced PETER VAN NEST, -NOT John Warne-W. as his name; letters are in Butler County OH. [Bessie, d/o Bertha Wilkinson m James Braman, d/o Gideon Wilkinson jr, s/o Gideon m Mary DeCamp, s/o Gideon Wilkinson m2 Abigail Warne Van Nest[e].
Haven't seen no records to prove John W. but what someone put on a DAR paper, many with no proof or records.
Abigail Warne-Van Nest[e]-Wilkinson Memorial# 59947000
Son by m1-Daniel Van Ness Memorial# 59940388
John is buried near West Moreland/Mooreland OH according to elder Van Ness [or possibly Wooster OH?]. Many cousin has search for grave, no stone or record found. Died at Millbrook Ohio; was a post master in Millbrook-Wayne County OH. Many descendants in Wayne Co & Seneca Co cemetery.
John was a Harness maker & Postmaster & Owned general store in Millbrook OH.
Left Dillsburg PA-YORK COUNTY, to WOOSTER OH-Wayne Co in 1838 with family & wife2 Catharine.
John was at Wayne County OH & Abigail his first wife went to Butler County OH at Reily near Oxford. Many family descendants still live in area.
John children from Abigail Warne of marriage 1-used Van Ness name. Children from Catharine of marriage 2-used Van Nest name. Old letters John W. urged his children [and grandchildren] by Abigail to use Van Nest, their Ancestor name. The sons refused to carry Van Nest[e] & continue to use Van Ness.
Name used: VAN NESS [John mar Abigail 1797 NJ-Readington]
John & Abigail Warne d/o Joseph Warne & Margaret 'Peggy' Van Vliet; had children:
1]Daniel b June 26 1803 Essex Co. NJ [MY Ancestor]Essex Co NJ by family. d Jan 29, 1896 New Lancaster, Tipton Co IN.
2]Furman b 1800-1867 Arkansas- [?some list 1806 for birth?]
3]Elisha Elijah b 1801-1883 Oxford, Butler Co Ohio
4]Joseph b Jan 18, 1798 NJ-1876 Eddyville, Monroe Co Iowa-NJ proof of his birth.
5]Scott b 1804 d 1808 d young Reily, Butler Co. Ohio-Indian Creek Pioneer Cemetery at Reily.
6]Ephraim b 1799 Butler Co Ohio
NOTE: Butler Co OH-- Old Letters by Bessie states: children as Daniel, Scott, Elijah, Ephriam. Bessie 'Bess' Wilkinson Braman, is related from Abigail & Gideon Wilkinson children of 2nd marriages. Ancestor lines: Bessie H. Hannah; her mother Bertha E. Wilkinson; her father Gideon Marsh Wilkinson mar Margaret McCloskey; his father Abraham mar Harriet Hawkins; to OUR Gideon Wilkinson & Abigail Warne Van Nest[e]/Van Ness.
Bess stated all 4 Van Ness boys were born in Essex Co NJ, Contrary to what one might find in Butler Co OH history published 1882. Facts as recorded in the Essex Co court house. She said Abigail was divorced from PETER [John Peter ?] & Gideon Wilkinson was divorced from Elizabeth. Bess tells of family & that Daniel [my ancestor] married & went to Kentucky; his wife died & he brought 3 little children home to Abigail who kept them till he re-married. The children adored Abigail. [Shilling sisters]. 1 child Furman by 1st wife Barbara Shilling [died in storm when she passed her infant son to Daniel & a tree fell on her & the horse killing them; 2nd wife Susannah Shilling, had more children then sister, then married 3rd wife Mary E Christman/Crissman last [my ancestor]. Bess said in letters about Abigail mom Margaret [Van Vliet-Warne] were doctors [Joseph & Peggy Vliet Warne] in Rev. War. She saw letter written by Margaret 'Peggy' to Abigail urging her to divorce a mean man [John 'Peter' W.]. One older Van Ness men had it & destroyed it as it reflected in the character of his paternal ancestors. Written before divorce. Due to derogatory remarks were made about his grandfather, he destroyed a relic [valuable old letter]. The Van Ness had never seen his grandpa Van Ness yet as an old man in his 70's. He still felt Abigail had survived by divorcing a mean man. Quotes in old letters.
Ancestor line goes back to Pieter/Peter Pieterszen Van Neste/Van Nest of Netherlands & Judith De Rapalje.
Pieter P. s/o Pieter/Peter s/o Antoin s/o Peter. Need documents in Netherlands. Ancestor data from Utrech Netherlands. New data is finding our Netherland Van Neste in Belgium, with the family descend from Jacob Van Neste/Van Den Nest. More records are being search.
Pieter P. Van Neste had son Joris/George VN, had son Pieter, son Jan/John to John [Peter/W.-Warne?] Van Neste/Van Nest.
John lived in NJ, York Co PA with his 2nd wife Catherine, then moved to Ohio in Wayne County.
War of 1812: John Van Neste/Van Nest.
Gov't Dept: pg 18; Officiers & Men in War NJ-from 1791 to 1815, Washington DC record of War Dept.
Enlisted as Private in Capt. Jos. Williamson's Company-Sussex Co NJ- August 17, 1812. Discharged Sept 25, 1812. Enlisted for time until discharged.
Name used: VAN NESTE on record, and Van Nest:
Wife 2: Catherine Heppinger/Hoppinger b Maryland d Attica near Tiffin, Seneca County Ohio.
Children born near York Co Penn. & Ohio.
Son John VanNest by marriage 2...Memorial# 43335957; John b 1815 PA
Son Peter Van Nest by m2....Memorial# 69026589; Peter b 1813 PA & lived Tiffin, Seneca County Ohio. Had a carriage shop.
Son Daniel b 1808
Son George
Daughter Rebecca by m2...Find A Grave Memorial# 154192250; Rebecca m Cyrus McClaran. She was b York Co PA, died Indiana. See her legacy with marriage & death certificate. In 1850 census: John 75-Catharine 65 with Rebecca; 1850:
Franklin, Wayne, Ohio. Rebecca was 20yr.
Daughters:
Mary
Margaret Anne
==============Catharine Heppinger-Van Nest[e]========
Van Nest John [Peter/or Warne?] wife2: Catharine 1860 census, Plain Twp-Wayne Co Ohio
Believe this is John Van Nest[e] 2nd wife: Catharine Heppinger/Hoppinger burial plot. She died Seneca Co near Attica. Her son Peter lived in Seneca County.
NOTE: Catharine Vanest on cemetery data.
[CATHARINE VAN NEST/VAN NESTE]
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohio/seneca/attica_venice_suwh.htm
d. ca 86 years. cemetery site
Burial:
Attica Venice Township Joint Cemetery
Attica, Seneca County
Located: in Venice twp. in Attica near fairgrounds.
This cemetery is located RIGHT beside Sts. Peter and Paul Cemetery and it is virtually impossible to tell without a map where one ends and the other begins. St. Peter and Paul is for Catholic folks and this one is for non-Catholics.
Found this on Find A Grave: Catharine Vanest
Find A Grave Memorial# 68349828
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Van Neste John [ July 30,[1814] wife Catharine, is marriage 2 of John ]
John Van Nest & Catherine [Heppinger/Hoppinger] his wife of the Township of Franklin County of York, and State of Penn. Of the one part, to John Blosser of the Township of Reding Co of Adams and State afore said for the Consideration of [950.00], conveyed a tract of land situated in Franklin Township containing 31 acres & 144 perches. Signed & Sealed the year above written. John Van Nest [seal]
Catharine Van Nest, X mark her. [seal]
Sealed & delivered in the presence of Michael Barnhart & Thomas Black
York County ss
Before me the subscriber one of the Justices of the Peace, in & for the said County personally appeared John Van Nest & Catherine his wife & acknowledged the foregoing Indenture to be their act & deed and desired that the same might be recorded as such, she the said Catherine being of full age & by me examined separate & apart from her husband and the contents made known to her, and she voluntarily became a party. The Testimony Whereof, I have here unto set my hand & seal the 26th day of March, 1814.
Thomas Black [seal]
And copy was taken & compared with the original at York the 15th day of August A.D. 1814. J. Barnitz-recorder
Deed recorded in record book: 2 Z, page 272
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Letters to his sons after reuniting with them almost 50 years later: Quotes with dates.
Moreland, Ohio Jan. 19, 1850. John Van Nest
Extracts of letter written by John Van Nest to his son, Elijah
He is 75 years old, writes of his sons Joseph and Elijah visiting him. Had not seen them for 35 years. Mention his daughter and son Peter by his second marriage. Peter was living in Tiffin, Ohio. Writes of his brother Peter being 91 years old. Also writes of his son George who was in California, 21 years old. He, George, was in all the battles fought under Scott during the Mexican War. Writes of it being 45 years since he dangled his children on his knee. Writes of having married a handsome young girl of 17, but he was not satisfied; he wanted, or rather thought of his first wife & children. His first wife, Abigail Warne, she told the children their father was dead.
Jan. 10, 1851
John Van Nest writes of death, his only brother, Rev. Peter Van Ness; on Oct. 17, last; in his 93rd year. Was in the ministry 54 years. Had one sister living who was 83 year old. John W. was the youngest of his family. Writes of living in New Jersey when his wife left him.
Millbrook, Ohio July 5, 1854 Speaks again of Joseph, his son.
Extracts of letters by John W. Van Nest
Millbrook, Ohio Nov. 2, 1855
Writes of separation of himself & wife Abigail. Writes of being a leading character among the Methodists and also of his only brother being a preacher in high standing among them, until his death; died in his 94th year, the oldest preacher in America, one of Wesley's converts in England. Blamed the grandmother Warne for the trouble with his wife. His son [John-of 2nd marriage] was Justice of the Peace & Postmaster for many years. Had a daughter who moved from Penn. To Huron County Ohio, where husband's name was John Polinger. Writes of death of his two daughters in Iowa.
Moreland, Ohio August 7, 1851
Writes of being bereaved over his lost sons for upwards of 40 years.
Rev. Peter Van Nest was born 1757, died Oct. 17, 1850. He was 17 years older than his brother John W.. Their father died in the Revolutionary War.
John W. Van Nest was born 1774. Sister born 1768 [Anne].
John 1812 Sussex Co NJ Militia...pvt NJ b 1774 NJ d Ohio 1862; Vol. 34; member 6558 D of 1812 son Furman. d Millbrook OH-Moreland
I have been in contact with Rose Elmore family before 1990 on genealogy. [Rose used John Warne as name--no record to prove]
notes of Thomas Macy:
Per my Great aunt, Rose (VanNess) Elmore wrote in her family records, dated June 30, 1932, John W. VanNest wrote letters to her father, Daniel VanNest, in the years of 1851 through 1853. She stated that she got most of her personal information from these letters. she states that John W. moved from New York to Ohio in 1838 and was Postmaster in Millbrook. He also had a general store.
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Quote: Letter:
Old Letter Oxford Ohio Sept 15, 1921 Mrs. Alice Van Ness Ferguson
Dear Cousin
Received your letter & will give you all the information I can. I think you can get the best information by writing to Peter Van Neste at Wooster, Ohio. The last account I had of him he was Mayor of that city, that was some time ago. Your Great Grandfather John Van Nest, was my Grandfather. He & his wife separated. John Van Neste had four sons by his first wife {ABIGAIL WARNE}, oldest was Joseph who lived & died & was buried in St. Joseph MO. I don't know which was the older, your Grandfather or my father, who name was Elijah, born Feb 12, 1801 & d. June 19, 1883. Your grandfather's name was Furman & Daniel was the youngest. {Note: This is Wilma J. Van Ness-Jervis-Marion gggrandfather}. I have nothing to show when he was born, but he died at Elwood, Indiana, lived to be over 90 years old. He has several children living in that vicinity. They go by the name of "VAN NESS". My father was married twice, there being two sets of children. His first wife was Rebecca Whelden & there were 5 children, two girls and 3 boys, none living. She died July 1, 1841. His second wife was Elizabeth Tucker, who was my mother, and she is gone. There 6 children, 2 girls and 4 boys. Four of us still living. I am the oldest of the living, will be 77 next April. Father & Uncle Joe and Uncle Furman when they started to school for fear of being teased about the name and be called chicken nest changed their name from Van Nest to Van Ness.
I have book that Grandfather Van Nest sent me in 1852. I was named for him & he wanted me to write my name Van Nest, but father would not allow it.
I have several letters written by my grandfather to my father, so I know I am writing facts to you about our name. That is why I want you to write to Peter Van Neste as I think you can get the most information from him. I am most sure you can get the birth & death of my grandfather from him. Grandmother was buried at the old Baptist graveyard [which is almost a thing of the past], several miles fro here. I will go there & try to find the date of her birth & death and write to you later. Would you like to write me about your father's last illness & death. I have his photo on a card that he sent me.
After you have heard from Peter Van Neste at Wooster, Ohio, would like you to write me the information you get. If Peter Van Neste sends you the date of birth & death of Grandfather, John Van Nest, would like for you to write & tell me. Have often thought of going to see where Grandfather was buried & to see Peter as he has wanted me to come to see him. I have no one but a daughter and granddaughter of my own family as both wives are dead. Last one passed away the 26th of last February. I am living with my sister Jennie, Your cousin John Van Nest, Oxford Ohio.
P.S. Written by Addie Van Ness Morris for John Van Nest. I am his half brother's daughter. Gideon was my father's name & after his death in 1886 I made my home with John Van Ness and his first wife, or rather double relations. John Van Ness & Gideon Van Ness were half brothers & their wives were sisters.
Most Elder VanNess stated it was Abigail Warne VanNest[e] that changed the name from Van Nest so John couldn't locate them when they left New Jersey to Ohio. Most common story I heard on name change from descendants.
Joseph son of John & Abigail Warne Van Nest-- Joseph stated to his descendants that Abigail changed spelling of name so John W. wouldn't know their whereabouts & couldn't
find the children.
Elijah son of John & Abigail Warne Van Nest- Elijah descendants states in letters to cousin it was the boys changed the name to Van Ness & refused their family to use the Van Nest spelling. Due to facts when they were young, they were teased badly at school & called " Chicken Nest".
No matter how the name changed to VAN NESS, WE ALL ARE A
VAN NESTE/VAN NESS/possibly in Netherlands Van Den Neste.
Wayne County Ohio: pg.79
J.P. Van Nest was born in Rowsburg, Ashland Co. Ohio Aug. 6, 1841; he married October 3, 1861 to Mary E. Gardner of the village...Had 8 children,,,His father was John who was an early settler in that section of Northern Ohio... J.P. [Joseph] grandfather was John Van Nest..[.John W.];
Note: John P. Van Nest home in Wooster Ohio. He is the son of John Van Nest that came from PA about 1838. He was in the insurance business in Wooster.
John W. Van Nest died in Millbrook Ohio in the fall of 1862, age 87 yrs. and buried at Moorland/Mooreland, Wayne County Ohio. His wife [2nd] would been Catherine Hoppinger died at Tiffin, Seneca County, Ohio at 75 yrs.
Family lived in NJ near this area.
Readington/Redington NJ
Raritan/Somerville NJ
John Van Nest d Millbrook Ohio; Vol. # 25A 1857-1873 US Postmaster; see Records of Appointments of Post Masters 1832; Sept 30-1971 Achives# M841
John died at Millbrook, Wayne Co OH and was to be buried near West Moreland OH Cemetery area ....John is not in Wooster OH Cemetery listing?
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This article give JOHN as JOHN P VAN NEST[E}-Van Ness.
Kansas
Portrait and biographical album of Jackson, Jefferson and Pottawatomie counties, Kansas
pg 750
[Freeman]/Freemon Elmore is subject of article that married Rose Etta Van Ness, d/o Daniel Joseph Van Nest[e]/Van Ness, m Lucy Neet -Daniel s/o Joseph Van Nest b NJ , m Sarah Crooks, Joseph s/o John P Van Neste/Van Nest b NJ and Abigail Warne
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s/o Jan/John Van Nest[e] & Sarah Bodine of New Jersey. Their children were: MY ANCESTOR John; Peter, was Reverend and Anna.
ANCESTOR LINE FROM JOHN [PETER?]: FATHER; JAN/JOHN VAN NESTE b1731 NJ; s/o PIETER/PETER PIETERSEN VAN NESTE-Van Nest b1700 NJ; s/o JORIS/GEORGE PIETERSEN VAN NEST-VAN NESTE b 1675 NY; s/o PIETER/PETER PIETERSZEN VAN NESTE b1625 Belgium/Netherlands possibly in new data research as Nes Netherlands? & wife Judick/Judith Jorise De Rapalje. Pieter Pieterszen s/o PETER b ca 1600. [Peter Pieterszen was immigrant].
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John [PETER or Warne-W?] No record found giving John Warne/John W. outside of his first wife Abigail last name was Warne. Why would he be named from 1st wife??
Old letter in Butler Co Ohio stated John as PETER by family member. Was his name John Peter?, or Peter John?---went by John and family called him Peter....??
Usually long ago children middle name followed from mother maiden name. JOHN mother was SARAH BODINE, not Warne-or W as many state. In this case name would be John Bodine.
I believe old letter calling Abigail 1st husband as PETER is correct, went by John by s/o Jan/John Van Neste.
JOHN is on postmaster in Wayne County at Millbrook Ohio where he died. John is on census also.
John m2 children give him as John. Need records & documents in NJ-where born or Ohio to prove Name. DAR members has no documents to prove John W. or John Warne as his given name. [I believe JOHN PETER is Correct name, not Warne-W.]
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Elder family always stated Moreland area.
[West Moreland, near Millbrook, Ohio]. John lived in area & post master at Millbrook, OH & died there.
NO Marker or document found on John death or burial but what others have stated. Many family members has searched cemeteries in Ohio & where his m2 children were in area of Wooster & Wayne County Ohio.
Van Neste/Van Nest to [Van Ness] when Abigail changed name when sons were young boys from NJ to Butler Co OH-Reily.] Abigail was 1st wife of John VN & remarried Gideon Wilkinson in Butler Co OH.
John m2 Catherine Heppinger/Hoppinger b 1 Maryland 1785 d Attica OH-Seneca Co OH. near Tiffin on Feb 2 1870; mar. York Co PA. date varies, need record.
Both with children. John Van Nest: mar1-Abigail children used Van Ness after leaving NJ. mar2-C. Heppinger children used Van Nest name. John urged sons by Abigail to use the paternal name of Van Nest, but they refused & still today we use Van Ness. Statement from old letter of John to his sons after finally seeing them some 50 years later.
b Sussex Co NJ?, 2 sources Essex Co. NJ & old letters in Ohio; [OR 1 source at Readington NJ-Hunterdon Co] d Millbrook, Wayne Co. Ohio near Moreland. RECORDS NEEDED ON BIRTH-DEATH-BURIAL-CHILDREN in NJ & OH.
NOTE: Too many on Ancestry have wrong family & data on Van Ness/Van Nest[e] and other families. Found 2-3 different families in one. Even some of my own personal family were complete wrong on family trees. Do your own research.. PLEASE do not use charts without Records to prove genealogy.
John was s/o Jan-John Van Neste & Sarah Bodine d/o Frederick Bodine & Sarah Rappelyea/De Rapalje. Jan died in Rev. War. Jan 1731-1781. Death record from NJ on Jan/John hasn't been found or document of military. Sarah Bodine Van Nest is to be in old section of Kerk-Dutch Reform Church at Somerville [Raritan] NJ-Somerset County. No document of record found.
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Jan/John VAN NESTE, father of John.;
pg 433 Stryker Reg of officiers & men in Rev War JOHN VAN NESTE
https://ia802703.us.archive.org/19/items/officialregister00newjuoft/officialregister00newjuoft.pdf
Van Neste John Ensign, Captain Henry Hover's company, Second Regiment, Sussex; Lieutenant, ditto.
Was in Sussex Co NJ as Lieutenant. pg 433 above book. Sussex Co Militia 2nd Regt. b Nov 20, 1731 d 1781 in service NJ.
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Believe John married to Abigail Warne was named: John Peter/poss Peter John Van Neste/Van Nest.
Old letters -1927 by Bess Braman give Abigail divorced PETER VAN NEST, -NOT John Warne-W. as his name; letters are in Butler County OH. [Bessie, d/o Bertha Wilkinson m James Braman, d/o Gideon Wilkinson jr, s/o Gideon m Mary DeCamp, s/o Gideon Wilkinson m2 Abigail Warne Van Nest[e].
Haven't seen no records to prove John W. but what someone put on a DAR paper, many with no proof or records.
Abigail Warne-Van Nest[e]-Wilkinson Memorial# 59947000
Son by m1-Daniel Van Ness Memorial# 59940388
John is buried near West Moreland/Mooreland OH according to elder Van Ness [or possibly Wooster OH?]. Many cousin has search for grave, no stone or record found. Died at Millbrook Ohio; was a post master in Millbrook-Wayne County OH. Many descendants in Wayne Co & Seneca Co cemetery.
John was a Harness maker & Postmaster & Owned general store in Millbrook OH.
Left Dillsburg PA-YORK COUNTY, to WOOSTER OH-Wayne Co in 1838 with family & wife2 Catharine.
John was at Wayne County OH & Abigail his first wife went to Butler County OH at Reily near Oxford. Many family descendants still live in area.
John children from Abigail Warne of marriage 1-used Van Ness name. Children from Catharine of marriage 2-used Van Nest name. Old letters John W. urged his children [and grandchildren] by Abigail to use Van Nest, their Ancestor name. The sons refused to carry Van Nest[e] & continue to use Van Ness.
Name used: VAN NESS [John mar Abigail 1797 NJ-Readington]
John & Abigail Warne d/o Joseph Warne & Margaret 'Peggy' Van Vliet; had children:
1]Daniel b June 26 1803 Essex Co. NJ [MY Ancestor]Essex Co NJ by family. d Jan 29, 1896 New Lancaster, Tipton Co IN.
2]Furman b 1800-1867 Arkansas- [?some list 1806 for birth?]
3]Elisha Elijah b 1801-1883 Oxford, Butler Co Ohio
4]Joseph b Jan 18, 1798 NJ-1876 Eddyville, Monroe Co Iowa-NJ proof of his birth.
5]Scott b 1804 d 1808 d young Reily, Butler Co. Ohio-Indian Creek Pioneer Cemetery at Reily.
6]Ephraim b 1799 Butler Co Ohio
NOTE: Butler Co OH-- Old Letters by Bessie states: children as Daniel, Scott, Elijah, Ephriam. Bessie 'Bess' Wilkinson Braman, is related from Abigail & Gideon Wilkinson children of 2nd marriages. Ancestor lines: Bessie H. Hannah; her mother Bertha E. Wilkinson; her father Gideon Marsh Wilkinson mar Margaret McCloskey; his father Abraham mar Harriet Hawkins; to OUR Gideon Wilkinson & Abigail Warne Van Nest[e]/Van Ness.
Bess stated all 4 Van Ness boys were born in Essex Co NJ, Contrary to what one might find in Butler Co OH history published 1882. Facts as recorded in the Essex Co court house. She said Abigail was divorced from PETER [John Peter ?] & Gideon Wilkinson was divorced from Elizabeth. Bess tells of family & that Daniel [my ancestor] married & went to Kentucky; his wife died & he brought 3 little children home to Abigail who kept them till he re-married. The children adored Abigail. [Shilling sisters]. 1 child Furman by 1st wife Barbara Shilling [died in storm when she passed her infant son to Daniel & a tree fell on her & the horse killing them; 2nd wife Susannah Shilling, had more children then sister, then married 3rd wife Mary E Christman/Crissman last [my ancestor]. Bess said in letters about Abigail mom Margaret [Van Vliet-Warne] were doctors [Joseph & Peggy Vliet Warne] in Rev. War. She saw letter written by Margaret 'Peggy' to Abigail urging her to divorce a mean man [John 'Peter' W.]. One older Van Ness men had it & destroyed it as it reflected in the character of his paternal ancestors. Written before divorce. Due to derogatory remarks were made about his grandfather, he destroyed a relic [valuable old letter]. The Van Ness had never seen his grandpa Van Ness yet as an old man in his 70's. He still felt Abigail had survived by divorcing a mean man. Quotes in old letters.
Ancestor line goes back to Pieter/Peter Pieterszen Van Neste/Van Nest of Netherlands & Judith De Rapalje.
Pieter P. s/o Pieter/Peter s/o Antoin s/o Peter. Need documents in Netherlands. Ancestor data from Utrech Netherlands. New data is finding our Netherland Van Neste in Belgium, with the family descend from Jacob Van Neste/Van Den Nest. More records are being search.
Pieter P. Van Neste had son Joris/George VN, had son Pieter, son Jan/John to John [Peter/W.-Warne?] Van Neste/Van Nest.
John lived in NJ, York Co PA with his 2nd wife Catherine, then moved to Ohio in Wayne County.
War of 1812: John Van Neste/Van Nest.
Gov't Dept: pg 18; Officiers & Men in War NJ-from 1791 to 1815, Washington DC record of War Dept.
Enlisted as Private in Capt. Jos. Williamson's Company-Sussex Co NJ- August 17, 1812. Discharged Sept 25, 1812. Enlisted for time until discharged.
Name used: VAN NESTE on record, and Van Nest:
Wife 2: Catherine Heppinger/Hoppinger b Maryland d Attica near Tiffin, Seneca County Ohio.
Children born near York Co Penn. & Ohio.
Son John VanNest by marriage 2...Memorial# 43335957; John b 1815 PA
Son Peter Van Nest by m2....Memorial# 69026589; Peter b 1813 PA & lived Tiffin, Seneca County Ohio. Had a carriage shop.
Son Daniel b 1808
Son George
Daughter Rebecca by m2...Find A Grave Memorial# 154192250; Rebecca m Cyrus McClaran. She was b York Co PA, died Indiana. See her legacy with marriage & death certificate. In 1850 census: John 75-Catharine 65 with Rebecca; 1850:
Franklin, Wayne, Ohio. Rebecca was 20yr.
Daughters:
Mary
Margaret Anne
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Van Nest John [Peter/or Warne?] wife2: Catharine 1860 census, Plain Twp-Wayne Co Ohio
Believe this is John Van Nest[e] 2nd wife: Catharine Heppinger/Hoppinger burial plot. She died Seneca Co near Attica. Her son Peter lived in Seneca County.
NOTE: Catharine Vanest on cemetery data.
[CATHARINE VAN NEST/VAN NESTE]
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohio/seneca/attica_venice_suwh.htm
d. ca 86 years. cemetery site
Burial:
Attica Venice Township Joint Cemetery
Attica, Seneca County
Located: in Venice twp. in Attica near fairgrounds.
This cemetery is located RIGHT beside Sts. Peter and Paul Cemetery and it is virtually impossible to tell without a map where one ends and the other begins. St. Peter and Paul is for Catholic folks and this one is for non-Catholics.
Found this on Find A Grave: Catharine Vanest
Find A Grave Memorial# 68349828
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Van Neste John [ July 30,[1814] wife Catharine, is marriage 2 of John ]
John Van Nest & Catherine [Heppinger/Hoppinger] his wife of the Township of Franklin County of York, and State of Penn. Of the one part, to John Blosser of the Township of Reding Co of Adams and State afore said for the Consideration of [950.00], conveyed a tract of land situated in Franklin Township containing 31 acres & 144 perches. Signed & Sealed the year above written. John Van Nest [seal]
Catharine Van Nest, X mark her. [seal]
Sealed & delivered in the presence of Michael Barnhart & Thomas Black
York County ss
Before me the subscriber one of the Justices of the Peace, in & for the said County personally appeared John Van Nest & Catherine his wife & acknowledged the foregoing Indenture to be their act & deed and desired that the same might be recorded as such, she the said Catherine being of full age & by me examined separate & apart from her husband and the contents made known to her, and she voluntarily became a party. The Testimony Whereof, I have here unto set my hand & seal the 26th day of March, 1814.
Thomas Black [seal]
And copy was taken & compared with the original at York the 15th day of August A.D. 1814. J. Barnitz-recorder
Deed recorded in record book: 2 Z, page 272
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Letters to his sons after reuniting with them almost 50 years later: Quotes with dates.
Moreland, Ohio Jan. 19, 1850. John Van Nest
Extracts of letter written by John Van Nest to his son, Elijah
He is 75 years old, writes of his sons Joseph and Elijah visiting him. Had not seen them for 35 years. Mention his daughter and son Peter by his second marriage. Peter was living in Tiffin, Ohio. Writes of his brother Peter being 91 years old. Also writes of his son George who was in California, 21 years old. He, George, was in all the battles fought under Scott during the Mexican War. Writes of it being 45 years since he dangled his children on his knee. Writes of having married a handsome young girl of 17, but he was not satisfied; he wanted, or rather thought of his first wife & children. His first wife, Abigail Warne, she told the children their father was dead.
Jan. 10, 1851
John Van Nest writes of death, his only brother, Rev. Peter Van Ness; on Oct. 17, last; in his 93rd year. Was in the ministry 54 years. Had one sister living who was 83 year old. John W. was the youngest of his family. Writes of living in New Jersey when his wife left him.
Millbrook, Ohio July 5, 1854 Speaks again of Joseph, his son.
Extracts of letters by John W. Van Nest
Millbrook, Ohio Nov. 2, 1855
Writes of separation of himself & wife Abigail. Writes of being a leading character among the Methodists and also of his only brother being a preacher in high standing among them, until his death; died in his 94th year, the oldest preacher in America, one of Wesley's converts in England. Blamed the grandmother Warne for the trouble with his wife. His son [John-of 2nd marriage] was Justice of the Peace & Postmaster for many years. Had a daughter who moved from Penn. To Huron County Ohio, where husband's name was John Polinger. Writes of death of his two daughters in Iowa.
Moreland, Ohio August 7, 1851
Writes of being bereaved over his lost sons for upwards of 40 years.
Rev. Peter Van Nest was born 1757, died Oct. 17, 1850. He was 17 years older than his brother John W.. Their father died in the Revolutionary War.
John W. Van Nest was born 1774. Sister born 1768 [Anne].
John 1812 Sussex Co NJ Militia...pvt NJ b 1774 NJ d Ohio 1862; Vol. 34; member 6558 D of 1812 son Furman. d Millbrook OH-Moreland
I have been in contact with Rose Elmore family before 1990 on genealogy. [Rose used John Warne as name--no record to prove]
notes of Thomas Macy:
Per my Great aunt, Rose (VanNess) Elmore wrote in her family records, dated June 30, 1932, John W. VanNest wrote letters to her father, Daniel VanNest, in the years of 1851 through 1853. She stated that she got most of her personal information from these letters. she states that John W. moved from New York to Ohio in 1838 and was Postmaster in Millbrook. He also had a general store.
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Quote: Letter:
Old Letter Oxford Ohio Sept 15, 1921 Mrs. Alice Van Ness Ferguson
Dear Cousin
Received your letter & will give you all the information I can. I think you can get the best information by writing to Peter Van Neste at Wooster, Ohio. The last account I had of him he was Mayor of that city, that was some time ago. Your Great Grandfather John Van Nest, was my Grandfather. He & his wife separated. John Van Neste had four sons by his first wife {ABIGAIL WARNE}, oldest was Joseph who lived & died & was buried in St. Joseph MO. I don't know which was the older, your Grandfather or my father, who name was Elijah, born Feb 12, 1801 & d. June 19, 1883. Your grandfather's name was Furman & Daniel was the youngest. {Note: This is Wilma J. Van Ness-Jervis-Marion gggrandfather}. I have nothing to show when he was born, but he died at Elwood, Indiana, lived to be over 90 years old. He has several children living in that vicinity. They go by the name of "VAN NESS". My father was married twice, there being two sets of children. His first wife was Rebecca Whelden & there were 5 children, two girls and 3 boys, none living. She died July 1, 1841. His second wife was Elizabeth Tucker, who was my mother, and she is gone. There 6 children, 2 girls and 4 boys. Four of us still living. I am the oldest of the living, will be 77 next April. Father & Uncle Joe and Uncle Furman when they started to school for fear of being teased about the name and be called chicken nest changed their name from Van Nest to Van Ness.
I have book that Grandfather Van Nest sent me in 1852. I was named for him & he wanted me to write my name Van Nest, but father would not allow it.
I have several letters written by my grandfather to my father, so I know I am writing facts to you about our name. That is why I want you to write to Peter Van Neste as I think you can get the most information from him. I am most sure you can get the birth & death of my grandfather from him. Grandmother was buried at the old Baptist graveyard [which is almost a thing of the past], several miles fro here. I will go there & try to find the date of her birth & death and write to you later. Would you like to write me about your father's last illness & death. I have his photo on a card that he sent me.
After you have heard from Peter Van Neste at Wooster, Ohio, would like you to write me the information you get. If Peter Van Neste sends you the date of birth & death of Grandfather, John Van Nest, would like for you to write & tell me. Have often thought of going to see where Grandfather was buried & to see Peter as he has wanted me to come to see him. I have no one but a daughter and granddaughter of my own family as both wives are dead. Last one passed away the 26th of last February. I am living with my sister Jennie, Your cousin John Van Nest, Oxford Ohio.
P.S. Written by Addie Van Ness Morris for John Van Nest. I am his half brother's daughter. Gideon was my father's name & after his death in 1886 I made my home with John Van Ness and his first wife, or rather double relations. John Van Ness & Gideon Van Ness were half brothers & their wives were sisters.
Most Elder VanNess stated it was Abigail Warne VanNest[e] that changed the name from Van Nest so John couldn't locate them when they left New Jersey to Ohio. Most common story I heard on name change from descendants.
Joseph son of John & Abigail Warne Van Nest-- Joseph stated to his descendants that Abigail changed spelling of name so John W. wouldn't know their whereabouts & couldn't
find the children.
Elijah son of John & Abigail Warne Van Nest- Elijah descendants states in letters to cousin it was the boys changed the name to Van Ness & refused their family to use the Van Nest spelling. Due to facts when they were young, they were teased badly at school & called " Chicken Nest".
No matter how the name changed to VAN NESS, WE ALL ARE A
VAN NESTE/VAN NESS/possibly in Netherlands Van Den Neste.
Wayne County Ohio: pg.79
J.P. Van Nest was born in Rowsburg, Ashland Co. Ohio Aug. 6, 1841; he married October 3, 1861 to Mary E. Gardner of the village...Had 8 children,,,His father was John who was an early settler in that section of Northern Ohio... J.P. [Joseph] grandfather was John Van Nest..[.John W.];
Note: John P. Van Nest home in Wooster Ohio. He is the son of John Van Nest that came from PA about 1838. He was in the insurance business in Wooster.
John W. Van Nest died in Millbrook Ohio in the fall of 1862, age 87 yrs. and buried at Moorland/Mooreland, Wayne County Ohio. His wife [2nd] would been Catherine Hoppinger died at Tiffin, Seneca County, Ohio at 75 yrs.
Family lived in NJ near this area.
Readington/Redington NJ
Raritan/Somerville NJ
John Van Nest d Millbrook Ohio; Vol. # 25A 1857-1873 US Postmaster; see Records of Appointments of Post Masters 1832; Sept 30-1971 Achives# M841
John died at Millbrook, Wayne Co OH and was to be buried near West Moreland OH Cemetery area ....John is not in Wooster OH Cemetery listing?
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This article give JOHN as JOHN P VAN NEST[E}-Van Ness.
Kansas
Portrait and biographical album of Jackson, Jefferson and Pottawatomie counties, Kansas
pg 750
[Freeman]/Freemon Elmore is subject of article that married Rose Etta Van Ness, d/o Daniel Joseph Van Nest[e]/Van Ness, m Lucy Neet -Daniel s/o Joseph Van Nest b NJ , m Sarah Crooks, Joseph s/o John P Van Neste/Van Nest b NJ and Abigail Warne
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Gravesite Details
JOHN sr VAN NEST[E} b NJ
Give JOHN sr died MILLBROOK, Wayne Co OHIO age 87y. in History of Ashland County, Ohio : with illustrations and biographical sketches /by George William Hill pg 214.
Also in Wayne Co Ohio give died Millbrook OH.
