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msfortune (#48091131)
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WNS
RE: Alonzo Brown, Martha and Ellen
Hey JoAnn,

I just today saw your Jan. 7 message! Sorry I didn't reply earlier. I thought I always received an email telling me whenever I have new messages, but maybe I'm confusing findagrave messages with ancestry.com messages. I do get confused easily. :-)

HNY to you and yours also!

I'm happy to assist; just wish I had found what you're looking for.

Best of luck in contacting the cemetery and learning more.

> I really want you to know that you
> gave me another leap forward on my
> family tree.

Ah, that's great. The community of family history researchers is a wonderful group with few exceptions. So many others have helped me too, and it's cool to "pay forward" the assistance.

You have already repaid me with your reply. Maybe you'll get a chance to help another someday. :-)

When you create a memorial then you "own" or manage it. I can turn over the management of a memorial I created (or now manage) to you on my end. You don't need to do a thing, although it's customary to get permission before transferring a memorial to someone. (More often it's a case of someone requesting that you transfer a memorial to them, because you created a mamorial for their relative. I think I'll go ahead and transfer David Brown to you now. Al I need is your Find A Grave member number of 48091131, which is at the top of your profile page.

Ok, it's done. Now when you visit Brown's memorial you'll see a bunch of links where you can edit the memorial, and now you're the only member who can do that, although other members can suggest edits to you. Click on "Edit Bio," for example, to add or edit facts or stories about him. Holler if you have any questions about editing.

Been great getting to know you! :-)

Added by WNS on Jan 27, 2015 3:56 PM
WNS
RE: MARTHA BROWN
Hey JoAnn,

Sorry to report that I failed to find any of the grave markers of interest at State Line Cemetery today. The closest I came was Alonzo's brother, David Brown. I just created a memorial for him (#140950837) and uploaded there the pics I took of his grave. It appears to me that there is one unmarked grave next to David, closest to the camera, and two unmarked graves on the other side of David.

I suspect you already know the following from Find A Grave, but in case not...

The State Line Cemetery is or was segregated. There are actually two cemeteries, both fenced, that share a common fence, and there are separate cemetery listings on findagrave.com.

The "white" cemetery is along Winchester Road; the African American cemetery is behind the white one. See photos here

I found David Brown in the African American cemetery, along with the two other Brown memorials added by somebody last summer.

I see that you created Martha's memorial in the "white cemetery," and maybe she is there, but I could not find her. Or maybe she's in an unmarked grave in the African African Cemetery, or maybe I simply overlooked her grave although I think I looked at all of them.

An encouraging word - I'd say over half the graves in the African American Cemetery are unmarked. My search doesn't prove anything about whether Martha, Alonzo or Ellen are there or not.

Happy hunting!

Bill
Added by WNS on Jan 05, 2015 5:12 PM
WNS
RE: MARTHA BROWN
Hey JoAnn,

Nice to hear from you again.

It looks like I will be in the Mobile area later this month for a family visit, and I will make the short trip to the State Line Cemetery. I will search for all the names you mentioned and report back. Of course I'll take photos if I find anything. Hope I do!

Merry Christmas!

Bill
Added by WNS on Dec 12, 2014 11:50 AM
WNS
RE: MARTHA BROWN
Nah, if I ever make it down there I wouldn't ask you to do that. It's too much fun to let $ enter the picture. :-) Thanks for offer though.

Happy hunting!
Added by WNS on Aug 03, 2014 3:54 PM
WNS
RE: MARTHA BROWN
I live in Virginia and don't get back down there very often, but if I do I will search for the grave marker and grab a photo for you.

Happy hunting!

Bill
Added by WNS on Aug 01, 2014 3:34 PM
WNS
RE: MARTHA BROWN
I live in Virginia and don't get back down there very often, but if I do I will search for the grave marker and grab a photo for you.

Happy hunting!

Bill
Added by WNS on Aug 01, 2014 3:33 PM
WNS
RE: MARTHA BROWN
One more thing. I found Martha and her mother and grandmother Sallie Arrington living together, with other Ellen children, in the June 6, 1900 Census for Wayne County, Mississippi. Here's the line for Martha:

Daughter, black, female, b. May 1891 in Mississippi, both parents born Mississippi, attended school during past year.
Added by WNS on Jul 30, 2014 10:50 AM
WNS
RE: MARTHA BROWN
I see several items about them on ancestry.com, including their 1930 Census record, Alonzo's Social Security Death Index (SSDI) record, and list of children, etc. in other members' trees. Do you have an ancestry.com membership?

Martha Chambers Brown is buried in the same cemetery, State Line Cemetery, as my great-grandmother Clementine Thursa Michael Norman Thompson

Bill

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Here's the SSDI data on Alonzo:

Name: Alonzo Brown
SSN: 425-76-5665
Last Residence: Mississippi
BORN: 17 Jun 1886
Died: Aug 1963
State (Year) SSN issued: Mississippi (1956)
Added by WNS on Jul 30, 2014 10:32 AM
WNS
RE: MARTHA BROWN
Sorry, but I don't have either one in my genealogy file, unless I have Martha under her maiden name. Do you know her maiden name?

Happy hunting!

Bill
Added by WNS on Jul 27, 2014 12:45 PM
 

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