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James Real (#48086949)
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Bio Photo I was born in California in 1934. I have been doing serious genealogy since 1970. I have almost 8000 people in my tree, with over 1900 surnames.
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Myrtle Ennis
Elizabeth Real Brown
Dear Mr. Real
I have been researching your relative Elizabeth Real and her husband Benjamin Brown for the last 6 years--below is a synopsis of my work--she was the sister of the man in this findagrave memorial and a daughter of Dr. George Real and ? Pilson.

my work
Elizabeth Real/Rheal Brown
from a bio of a relative

Elisabeth, who married Benjamin F. Brown, moved to Texas and there died.


my work
1850 U S Census Elizabeth and Benjamin A Brown and 2 children are still in Marion , Tennessee

Name Elizabeth Brown
Age 28
Birth Year abt 1822
Birthplace Blinorse (believe this is Bledsoe Co, Tn)
Home in 1850 Marion, Tennessee
Gender Female
Family Number 162
Household Members
Name Age
B A Brown 27
Elizabeth Brown 28
Easter Brown 3 (Esther Minerva Brown)
George Brown 2
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Name B A Brown his info 1850 census
Age 27
Birth Year abt 1823
Birthplace Northealin (North Carolina)
Home in 1850 Marion, Tennessee


1860 U S Census-- B A Brown is in Denton Co, Texas --New wife my cousin Cynthia Jane Williams of White Co,Tennessee--Elizabeth died I estimate 1857 whether Tennessee or Texas

Name B A Brown
Age 38
Birth Year abt 1822
Gender Male
Birth Place North Carolina
Home in 1860 Denton, Texas
Post Office Carter
Family Number 815
Household Members
Name Age
B A Brown 38
Syntha Brown 19
Manerva Brown 12 Minerva Esther born Tennessee daughter of Elizabeth Real

George Brown 11 born Tennessee son of Elizabeth Real

Joseph Brown 9 born Tennessee son of Elizabeth Real

Franklin Brown 7 born Tennessee son of Elizabeth Real

William Brown 6 born Tennessee son of Elizabeth Real

Mary Brown 5 born Tennessee daughter of Elizabeth Real

Samuel Brown 8/12 son of Cynthia Jane Williams--this is how I came up with Elizabeth death date

note --Cynthia Jane Williams of White Co, Tn, daughter of David D. Williams and Sarah Finney Matlock--Cynthia Jane's parents die young leaving 4 orphans.

Cynthia Jane and her brother Dr. Elcanah D. Williams were raised by maternal grandfather Wm H Matlock, a slave trader and richest man in White Co, Tn--Civil War breaks him--other children George Turney Williams and Mary Williams raised by paternal grandparents James Trager William and Hannah Scoggins--also wealthy but he signed neighbors notes and in a financial down turn--the people could not pay--so they came after him --took every thing but 1 acre for a family cemetery.


1870 Census in Shoals Creek, Johnson Co, Ark
B A Brown and Cynthia with 6 children by Cynthia ---no children by Elizabeth--where is Mary, Elizabeth's youngest daughter



1880 Census in Shoals Creek, Johnson Co, Ark
Ben A, and Cynthia with 5 children (2 new ones 6 + 2 = 8)


1900 Census in Mountain, Logan Co, Ark
Benjamin born Dec 1822 in N C

Cynthia born July 1841 Alabama--but soc sec records of her children list her as a Williams born in Tennessee

son Silas Pet Brown (divorced but he and wife later remarry)

Note in findagrave memorials of grandchildren stories of cabin on top of Mountain in Logan Co, Ark--part of Logan Co, Ark became Johnson Co, Ark


This is very important
Findagrave memorial of Joseph Real Brown, son of Elizabeth Real

Birth: Aug. 16, 1850 Marion County, Tennessee
Death: Sep. 2, 1917 Van Buren, Crawford County
Arkansas


J. R. Brown was born in Tennessee in 1850, being the third of fourteen children born to Benjamin A. and Elizabeth (Real) Brown, who were born in North Carolina and Tennessee, respectively, the former, a farmer, who came to Arkansas in the fall of 1866.

(very long write up)---but Elizabeth only had 6 children--Cynthia had 8 of those children--in 1900 census --it listed for Cynthia -8 children born-5 children living

Burial:
Fairview Cemetery
Van Buren, Crawford County, Arkansas
Plot: 1-F-22-H
Created by: L Bruns--a person to contact
Record added: Jun 04, 2009
Find A Grave Memorial# 37928456

yours truly Myrtle Mandane Ennis, a Williams and Matlock descendant--B G Ky
Added by Myrtle Ennis on Jul 17, 2016 1:04 PM
Craig Williams
Doc Real Family Cemetery
Mr. Real, I am trying to locate the subject cemetery in Bledsoe County, TN. From the Find-A-Grave information, I have a rough idea where it is. Do you have any specifics regarding the location and ease of access? Thanks!
Added by Craig Williams on Jun 06, 2016 6:52 PM
Sharon Brooks Brimmer
RE: R. R. Grimmett Memorial
Thanks James
Added by Sharon Brooks Brimmer on Mar 27, 2016 6:41 PM
Myrtle Ennis
Elizabeth Real Brown
Dear Mr. Real I am tracking Elizabeth Real Brown who married Benjamin Brown---I found them in
1850 census in Marion Co, Tenn

1850 U S Census
Name: B A Brown
Age: 27
Birth Year: abt 1823
Birthplace: Northealin (North Carolina)
Home in 1850: Marion, Tennessee
Gender: Male
Family Number: 162
Household Members:
Name Age
B A Brown 27
Elizabeth Brown 28 her bp Blinorse?????
Easter Brown 3 (Esther Minerva)
George Brown 2



1860 U S Census
Name: B A Brown
Age: 38
Birth Year: abt 1822
Gender: Male
Birth Place: North Carolina
Home in 1860: Denton, Texas
Post Office: Carter
Family Number: 815
Value of Real Estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
B A Brown 38
Syntha Brown 19**********
Manerva Brown 12
George Brown 11
Joseph Brown 9 Joseph Real Brown
Franklin Brown 7 Benj. Franklin Brown
William Brown 6 William W. Brown
Mary Brown 5 *
Samuel Brown 8/12
in 1860 U S Census shows Elizabeth must have died after the birth of Mary--most trees on Ancestry.com give 1867 as her death. I am still searching for her grave---(Mary was born in Tennessee--so I am thinking maybe Elizabeth died in Marion Co, Tn where her father was a doctor.

Benjamin has remarried and has a new son by 2nd wife Syntha Brown whom I believe to be my cousin
Cynthia Jane Williams of White Co, Tenn who was raised by her grandfather William H. Matlock after her parents died in 1844 2 days a part from each other (David D. Williams and Sarah Finney
Matlock.) Also Cynthia's brother Elkanah David Williams became a doctor in White Co, Tn (He is my gg grandfather) and may have studied or been acquainted with Dr. Real. The Real family has many links with White Co, Tn. Of the 5 children of Elizabeth in 1860 census I have found all except Mary Brown who was born about 1865. In a later census Cynthia states she was the mother of 8 children with 5 living at time of that census. So the number of children that Benj. Brown had (5 + 8 = 13) was thirteen which Joseph Real Brown in his bio said he was 3rd in thirteen children of Eliz and Benj but I think the writer of his bio gave the count of Benjamin's children with only 5 being that of Elizabeth. I saw your bio of Elizabeth Real and you had her death date was 1898 but I think this is incorrect due to 1850 and 1860 censuses' info. I have worked on this off and on for 5 years but the censuses have not always helped in this search as they have given Cynthia's birthplace as either Georgia or Alabama. Not until I started on her children by B. Brown did I get info for Soc Sec applications that said her last name was Williams and born in Tennessee did I get hope that I was on the right trail. Her son John Warren Brown who died in Calif.---most trees have him as John Wesley Brown with the nickname "Pip" but this is not correct---it was his soc sec application that kept me from losing hope. Sorry this so long but if you can add or disprove anything--I would appreciate the info---yours truly Myrtle Ennis of Warren Co, KY I am related to many old families of White Co, Tenn.
Added by Myrtle Ennis on Sep 20, 2015 12:18 PM
Rose
James D. Bryant
Hi! I have a friend that is looking for family of this man and I know that you are! I believe she has some letters and documents. I have no details!
I would like to give her your E-Mail so you can connect! Linda
Added by Rose on Aug 26, 2015 10:46 PM
Our Family History
Lambert II Of Louvain Memorial# 85003727
Hi James,
I have looked over several sites and this is the correct Parent's for this Lambert. Your grand mother also had a son named Lambert VAN BOULOGNE, II, Count of Lens. I have seen different death years for this Lambert. Both of these lambert were killed in Battle or died from their battle wounds. I have sent you two site links to look at.


Lambert II, Comte de Louvain was born circa 995 at Lorraine, France.2 He was the son of Lambert I, Comte de Louvain and Gerberge de Basse-Lorraine.1 He married Oda de Basse-Lorraine, daughter of Gozelo I der Große Herzog von Niederlothringen and Urraca d'Ivrea.2 He died on 19 June 1054 at Doornik, Belgium.3
Lambert II, Comte de Louvain also went by the nick-name of Lambert 'the Belted'.1 He gained the title of Comte de Louvain.1
Children of Lambert II, Comte de Louvain and Oda de Basse-Lorraine
Adelheid de Louvain+1 d. c 1083
Henri II, Comte de Louvain+1 b. 1021, d. 1078

Source: http://thepeerage.com/p394.htm#i3940


On the my this search I have found that his sister your Great Grandmother also has a son that also did the same year as her brother.
Mathilde van Leuven is the daughter of Lambert I, Comte de Louvain and Gerberge de Basse-Lorraine.1 She married Eustache I, Comte de Boulogne, son of Baudouin II, Comte de Boulogne and Adeline van Hollant.2
Children of Mathilde van Leuven and Eustache I, Comte de Boulogne
Lambert II de Boulogne, Comte de Lens+1 d. 1054
Eustache II, Comte de Boulogne+2 b. bt 1015 - 1020, d. 1087
Gerberge de Boulogne+3 b. 1025, d. 1049

Lambert II de Boulogne, Comte de Lens was the son of Eustache I, Comte de Boulogne and Mathilde van Leuven.2 He married Adeliza de Normandie, Comtesse d'Aumale, daughter of Robert I, 6th Duc de Normandie and Herleva de Falaise, circa 1053.1 He died in 1054, from wounds received in action, at the Battle of Lille.
He gained the title of Comte de Lens, in Artois.1
Child of Lambert II de Boulogne, Comte de Lens and Adeliza de Normandie, Comtesse d'Aumale
Judith of Lens+3 b. bt 1054 - 1055, d. a 1086

Source: http://thepeerage.com/p10483.htm#i104823

Thank You
Donna
Added by Our Family History on Aug 08, 2015 5:05 PM
Clifford Skiles
RE: Shropshire Cemetery
Hi James:
Have lived here all my life without the info you gave me and sure was glad to get this small history lesson. This fall when the snakes go in for the winter, I will still look for the markers and other info I can find. You do know that the oldest cemetery in Whitwell is Cheekville Cemetery located in the south end of Whitwell. Whitwell's name was Cheekville before it became Whitwell. There are some old graves there. Thanks again.
Added by Clifford Skiles on Aug 04, 2015 11:48 AM
Clifford Skiles
Shropshire Family Cemetery...
James:
I supposedly live only 3 miles from this cemetery but have never heard of it. Any directions or info to get to it and I will photograph any markers or memorials located in the cemetery and post them on Findagrave. Thanks in advance.
Added by Clifford Skiles on Aug 03, 2015 11:47 PM
Logan
Thomas Vernon
Birth: Sep. 22, 1695
Chester County
Pennsylvania, USA
Death: 1780
Calvert
Cecil County
Maryland, USA

Children: Elizabeth Vernon Job (1669 - 1735)*

You sent me this correction but dont think the dates are correct as daughter is older than father.
Added by Logan on Jul 23, 2015 2:09 AM
Logan
Thomas Vernon
Birth: Sep. 22, 1695
Chester County
Pennsylvania, USA
Death: 1780
Calvert
Cecil County
Maryland, USA

Children: Elizabeth Vernon Job (1669 - 1735)*

You sent me this correction but dont think the dates are correct as daughter is older than father.
Added by Logan on Jul 23, 2015 2:08 AM
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