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Patricia Lenaburg
RE: Norman Valley Cem.
Thanks again Gary.
Yes, I am aware we were not blood relations to the Sampiers, except through Sarah, and Joseph her father, but Patrick was an Uncle was he not? I thought he was related to Sarah (sister).
I know this is serious business, looking into this ancestry. I know the ups and downs of it, believe me.
One more question, Did Sarah marry a Lyle after Sam Chance died? I found a list of marriages, and Sarah Sampier had married a Lyle, at this time I can't remember the first name of this Lyle person. I have this written down in some notes I took.
I really appreciate all your help with this, and I want you to know I am not one to get information, and not give back if I can, I have ran into this several times. I will try not to bother you all the time. Pat
Added by Patricia Lenaburg on Feb 27, 2014 4:37 PM
Patricia Lenaburg
RE: Norman Valley Cem.
Thanks Gary for your reply.
I have long suspected WP was Irish, or at least part. I never found a census with him on one. I found a couple with Sarah after his death, but that was all.
Where did you find the info. on WP's war history? I have never ran across, anything documented on this man, so I am so glad to hear about this.
Sarah's father was also listed in a census for her, as being born in Ireland.
I have been working on the Norman and Chance line for so many years, I get frustrated, and stop for a while, and go back with a refreshed outlook on it.
The historical rescue for this cemetery is a wonderful idea, and it would be a tribute to all who are buried there, and to the living families.
I just feel so sad that it is decaying away, and soon could be lost to us. If there is anything I can do, let me know. I don't have a lot of money, but my daughter, and I could give some to help out. I wish I could be there to participate in this.
If you don't mind, how old are you and Sue? I am soon to be 67 yrs.
By the way, the Sarah M. Sampier buried there, was listed as being Sarah Sampler, not Sarah Sampier, so there is another relative who married into the family. It's amazing what tombstones can tell you. I believe she married one of the sons of Patrick and Mary Sampier, who are buried there. She is the daughter of Christopher Jalle.
I better shut up, now HA! Have a good one Pat
Added by Patricia Lenaburg on Feb 27, 2014 4:42 AM
Patricia Lenaburg
RE: Norman Valley Cem.
Hi Sue, and thanks for the reply.
I have been working on these other names in the cemetery off and on for a while. I was told by someone in the Genealogical society in Milam Co. TX some time ago that, WP Norman was Austrian, they said, it was in the cemetery book. The Norman Valley Cemetery was most likely started as the Norman family cemetery, for the family only, and that the family would let others be buried there due to others being to poor to bury their loved ones. This makes sense due to them having boarders, and the type of people they were.
When I found Sarah several years ago, another lady who took care of the cemetery books had everything messed up. There were people she had buried there who weren't there, and had some of them who were buried there buried somewhere else. WP Norman was not written down as buried there, Thomas,and Alex were not there, it was a mess. I just kept digging, and pulling my hair out, until I stumbled across someone who knew what they were talking about, and this took years.
I don't know if WP Norman was Austrian or not, never got that one confirmed. I know Sarah was at least half Irish, because her father was born in Ireland, due to a census stating that.
I have been working on possibilities that, some maybe relatives, and going from there.
Sarah's parents have to be there somewhere, she was only 14 years old when she came to TX, so I am hoping by some freak accident we come across who she was.
I will keep at it, and if I find anything I will let you know. Have a great day tomorrow. Pat.
Hope this made sense to you.

Added by Patricia Lenaburg on Feb 25, 2014 9:59 PM
Patricia Lenaburg
Norman Valley Cem.
Sue, who are the Bowen's buried in Norman Valley?
I have tried to go through all those names, and get info. on them. I found a little on Christopher Jalle, and ask that they add it to his info. I think we are related to some of these people. Massey's, Leatherman, etc. Pat
Added by Patricia Lenaburg on Feb 19, 2014 2:27 PM
Patricia Lenaburg
RE: Norman
This is so awesome Sue, I wish I could have been there when you found it, and glad you didn't pass it by. Tell Gary kudos for the help.
Glad you told me about Bessie and Ira in Sharp's Cemetery too. I will go over to it, and check it out.
I live in a small town called Orange Cove, it's about 33 miles east of Fresno, Ca. In the San Joaquin Valley. I'm near the mountains, about 35 miles from the giant redwoods.
I still have an Aunt alive who lives in Lubbock, TX, many cousins around Waco, and Dumas, who are related to the Chance's.
The picture of Sarah Chance Price is beautiful, it's so haunting. It's like I said about them it's like you knew them.
OK, I'll shut up now, it takes so little for me, you would think anyway. LOL Pat
Added by Patricia Lenaburg on Feb 17, 2014 6:26 PM
Patricia Lenaburg
RE: Norman
Sue, I have added the new items, birth and death date to Sarah's gravesite. You may think I'm nuts, but when I seen her tombstone you had posted, I just started crying. I am not normally this emotional, but it's like I really knew her, oh well. Thanks for your help in finding her.
I think I remember you now, we chatted about me meeting you in TX at one time, and I told you I
lived in CA.
Well, I know your my cousin now.
I will go to Emily and change her information now, and wait to see what happens with finding her. I'm thinking David her husband is buried there also, but you most likely have the same idea. Pat
Added by Patricia Lenaburg on Feb 17, 2014 1:30 PM
Patricia Lenaburg
RE: Emily C Chance
Looks like everything is clicking away, maybe some answers soon. I am hoping my Great Grandmother Roseltha "Rosa" is one of the Chance's buried at Sharp Cemetery, she has never been found. Her mother and father are buried there, Lorenzo and Helen Ercanbrack. I thought Rosa may be also, but had no proof.
Gee, what a great day so far. As I said, in my other message, please keep me informed.
Added by Patricia Lenaburg on Feb 17, 2014 12:50 PM
Patricia Lenaburg
RE: Norman
This is wonderful, you would have thought I had won the lotto ticket when I seen your message. I knew she was buried there, but to find her tombstone just tops it all.
Please keep me informed on anything you find. This has been many years of hard searching for me, and I started from, you might say nothing. All I knew, was who my Great Grandfather Chance was.
If I may, where do you fit into this family? I have chatted to so many, and sent so many messages, they have been lost in the cellar of my brain LOL.
I recently changed my email, and lost all of my contacts, which weren't carried over to the new one. I tried to save my most important ones, but they are now gone.
Thank you so much for letting me know this.
I have been sick for a few days, but am starting to recover, and have not been on the computer, just happened to check, I'm glad I did. Pat
Added by Patricia Lenaburg on Feb 17, 2014 12:38 PM
Patricia Harrison Armstrong
RE: Thank You.
Also at the archives you can look up his death certificate and the recorded death records/coroner's report etc. to be sure of the date. A "4" could easily be mistakenly written for a "1". There are also all the old newspapers from that era so if Justice of the Peace (JP) Samuel Almon is also your guy, you could like find articles on him as well. They charge for their research but it's quality work.
(<:) But if you go yourself, they help you out totally and just charge for copies.
Added by Patricia Harrison Armstro... on Apr 10, 2013 9:19 PM
Patricia Harrison Armstrong
RE: Thank You.
Sue, There's a delightful book published by ZenaBeth McGlashan called Buried in Butte. It's a marvelous history of the cemeteries and all related history of that side of a town's social story. I looked in the chapter on monument services and found a note about a company called Trevillion-Johnston Memorials being the oldest business in town....since 1889 - and they are still in business and across the street from the cemetery! So perhaps they did Almon's marker or could help you figure it out 406-723-6010

Also, in this same book there is a mention of a J.P.Samuel H.Almon who presided in 1896.

Also, when you come, you must plan to spend time at the Silver Bow County Archives. Their collections and research capability is beyond awesome.

Best wishes! Pat
Added by Patricia Harrison Armstro... on Apr 10, 2013 9:14 PM
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