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Jan Helton (#47844593)
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Judy K. Brantley/Wilson
RE: Isaac Hallman and Irene Hallman (Stanley)
That is just kind of crazy. Get an older person to go with you, someone who is the age her daughter could be and tell me she is her daughter. You help her fill out the information---but I would not want to pay $90 for the death certificate. If you know the funeral home that had her body, usually they have a copy and will give it to you for free. Since she died in 1981, those records should be fairly easy to retrieve. If they do not have a copy of the death certificate - they might have that information on their records. I would call them, if I were you. I would go to Birmingham if you could - you might find out a lot more, unless that is all that you want or need in the way of information.
Added by Judy K. Brantley/Wilson on Jun 20, 2016 11:56 AM
Judy K. Brantley/Wilson
RE: Isaac Hallman and Irene Hallman (Stanley)
That is just kind of crazy. Get an older person to go with you, someone who is the age her daughter could be and tell me she is her daughter. You help her fill out the information---but I would not want to pay $90 for the death certificate. If you know the funeral home that had her body, usually they have a copy and will give it to you for free. Since she died in 1981, those records should be fairly easy to retrieve. If they do not have a copy of the death certificate - they might have that information on their records. I would call them, if I were you. I would go to Birmingham if you could - you might find out a lot more, unless that is all that you want or need in the way of information.
Added by Judy K. Brantley/Wilson on Jun 20, 2016 7:49 AM
Judy K. Brantley/Wilson
RE: Isaac Hallman and Irene Hallman (Stanley)
Oh my Gosh - $90.00 for a death certificate? They have none of their records on line. Texas has birth, death, marriage and divorce records online on Ancestry. If you could, I would go to Alabama, where they lived and check the county records. I went to Carroll County, Georgia looking for information on my grandparents and they led me to this medium size room with large slanted type tables in the middle. They had these huge books that they got out for me, by dates, and I got to go through them. Found my grandparents marriage records there, but it was not on line anywhere. The library in the nearest larger town should be able to help you some, too. It is always a problem when they lived in Alabama because of their reluctance to make the records available to the public. No wonder, they are making a lot of money this way. Most charge $25 for a death certificate. My GGrandparents lived in Tennessee, right at the Alabama line, but are buried in Alabama. Some relatives went back and forth over that state line. Tennessee has many of their records on line, so I was able to find many that way. Hope this helps, at least a little. This was one of the hardest ones I ever worked on - it was like they vaporized into thin air - just not much of nothing on them.
Added by Judy K. Brantley/Wilson on Jun 20, 2016 7:21 AM
Judy K. Brantley/Wilson
RE: Isaac Hallman and Irene Hallman (Stanley)
Jan, I worked on all these names for over two hours, but found very little. You have more than I found. I have been doing this a long time and used every trick to find information - but found very little. Sorry I could not help more.
Added by Judy K. Brantley/Wilson on Jun 19, 2016 3:21 PM
Judy K. Brantley/Wilson
RE: Isaac Hallman and Irene Hallman (Stanley)
Jan, I worked on all these names for over two hours, but found very little. You have more than I found. I have been doing this a long time and used every trick to find information - but found very little. Sorry I could not help more.
Added by Judy K. Brantley/Wilson on Jun 19, 2016 3:21 PM
Jerry Owen
RE: Owen Family Tree
Jan I have lots of info for you. Looks like we are actually some kind of kin--my ancestry stems from James Henry Owen's first wife, Amanda Monroe, whereas you are descended from his second wife, Ludi Watkins. Send me your e-mail at jowenj@comcast.net and we can exchange info Jerry
Added by Jerry Owen on Oct 30, 2013 8:08 PM
keithdover2
Halman in Hollywood Cemetery
I have a copy of Isaac Hallman's Death Certificate, and it does indicate that he is buried at Hollywood.
Added by keithdover2 on Oct 30, 2013 10:00 AM
keithdover2
RE: Isaac M. Hallman Hollywood Cemetery
I wish I had something I could share with you. Isaac Hallman (or Halman) was my GG Grandfather. I don't know a whole lot about him except that he left my GG Grandmother (Harriet Randall) and my G Grandfather (Thomas W. Holman, Sr.) notice the difference in last name spelling and started another one, possibly two families. I got my information from a Holman cousin. From what I'm told Isaac did try to reconcile with Tom once but Tom wouldn't have anything of it, and speaking of Tom's dad was a forbidden subject around the Holman family.
Added by keithdover2 on Oct 30, 2013 9:48 AM
Judy K. Brantley/Wilson
RE: Isaac M. Hallman Hollywood Cemetery
Jan, There could be a marker which has fallen and covered over, but we have poked and prodded the earth and removed many markers to see daylight once again. I hope you can find him in this jungle. The cemetery will tell you nothing unless you pay for information, then you are lucky to get any at all. They will tell you he is buried there, but you already know that. If you can get a lot and plot number, you can contact James Stephens (www.stephensroots.com) and he can tell you where to look. We have thoroughly searched and recorded every marker found within the cemetery, which covers four huge corners. Unless you know where to look, you more than likely will not find his grave. We will help you any way that we can. Judy
Added by Judy K. Brantley/Wilson on Oct 30, 2013 8:55 AM
Judy K. Brantley/Wilson
Isaac M. Hallman Hollywood Cemetery
Jan, The cemetery has been thoroughly searched and no marker was found for Mr. Hallman - so his grave is apparently not marked. James Stephens also helped me add some of the marker pictures and he didn't find him either or a picture would be on his page. Because the owner/employees are unwilling to help, we have no idea where he is buried - so we cannot help you in that way. I wish I had better news, so that you could find his grave. Do you ever remember a marker being at Hollywood for him? Let me know. Judy
Added by Judy K. Brantley/Wilson on Oct 29, 2013 3:48 PM
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