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J Martin (#47658574)
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Bio Photo The information provided in the Memorials I have created are directly from our family records.

Please consider the information a guide rather than factual as I have no verifiable records, other than those quoted, but believe some information pointing in the right direction is better than none.

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~ BIRTH/DEATH/MARRIAGE RECORDS ~

For those frustrated by LACK OF EXACT INFORMATION bear in mind these were PIONEERS.

Mass immigration occurred 30 or more years PRIOR to U.S. Independence. Most U.S. births, deaths and marriages occurred AT HOME, and may or may not have been documented by Church Records or the Family Bible, but were not a requirement of the BRITISH EMPIRE.

The Declaration of Independence was a statement adopted by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, which announced that the thirteen American colonies, then at war with Great Britain, regarded themselves as independent states, and no longer a part of the British Empire.

Outside of the largest cities, there were no churches, schools, hospitals, stores, or CEMETERIES. Most pioneer graves occurred near where the individual died and were generally marked only by piles of stone or wooden crosses that disintegrate over time.

Early cemeteries did not bury families together that is a modern day concept. Pioneer cemeteries originally buried people next to each other in the order of death, with separate locations for adults, children and ethnicity.

Foreigners who could not read or write in the native language where they live were functionally illiterate, but the backbone of this nation, building as they traveled.

Illiteracy was the norm, and only the wealthy were able to afford to send their progeny off to the city for several years to be educated.

During pioneer times quill and paper were not standard household items, blackboards and chalk were, which is why there are so few paper documents and the Bible used to document family history.

It isn't that we "FAILED" to find the documents; very few actually exist, and due to illiteracy and language barriers, their accuracy is highly questionable and information often conflicting.

I offer known, but unsubstantiated, optional dates in the files - not to confuse - but to reflect the diversity in record keeping of that era.

Be thankful we have the pre-independence records available, instead of critical of their inaccuracies.

~~~~~~~ FENSTERMACHER ~~~~~~~

After immigration a wide diversity occurred in the spelling of the name Fenstermacher.

Since immigrants usually couldn't speak, read or write English, their name changed as often as the person writing it - and was often phonetic.

Accents, and the fact that other languages do not have the same 26 letter A-Z alphabet that English does, also contributed to making translations tricky and documentation difficult.

As if that wasn't enough the spelling of names is complicated by relocation. As they moved, individuals in one county or state would be taught the spelling of their name differently than the same family members in another.

In addition, names eventually were Anglicised, making it difficult to determine which is the actual, correct, version, so for the most part I have used the spelling of the name the family has agreed upon or where possible the name on the headstone.

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~~~~~~~~~ OBITUARIES ~~~~~~~~~

I have no problem adding obituaries and newspaper photos to this site, because I do contact the source and request permission - even after the fact, such as for those that were already in the files when I obtained them. Please be sure to site the source if you have it.

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~~ SUGGESTIONS & CORRECTIONS ~~

All suggestions & corrections MUST be accompanied by file number, as there are multiply individuals with the same first and last name. If you wish to have files linked, provide the file number for each individual!

NOTE: I reserve the right to verify information prior to annotating any file. Please include source of information.

FYI: Original file links only. I WILL NOT link family members to duplicate or triplicate files. [This note is a result of multiple duplicate files created by Marsha Fenstermacher Binkley.]

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I am reviewing every Fenstermaker record, or derivative of, and would be happy to accept management of any or all, if you are interested in transferring. It is not my intention to just "collect" them - I intend to spend at least a year or so "connecting" them. I do not expect everyone to just hand over their records. Feel free to transfer, or "politely" advise me you decline.

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I am the 9th great granddaughter of Conradt Fenstermacher c1627 Hillscheidt, Rhenish Bavaria, Germany.

MY LINE OF DESCENT:
GGF-9: .. Unknown - Fenstermacher, Conradt
GGF-8: .. 1650-1678 Fenstermacher, Conrad
GGF-7: .. 1678-1761 Fenstermacher, John M
GGF-6: . c1715-1790 Fenstermacher, Philip
GGF-5: .. 1749-1831 Fenstermacher, Michael
GGF-4: .. 1777-1849 Fenstermaker, Philip
GGF-3: .. 1803-1881 Fenstermacher, Michael
GGF-2: .. 1836-1911 Fenstermaker, Aaron
GGF-1: .. 1878-1959 Fenstermaker, Daniel
GMthr: 19061978 Oakes, Rose Fenstermaker
Mother: 1930-pres Martin, Lillian Oakes
ME: ...... 1954-pres JMartin
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Mark A Gillespie
RE: Richard Fenstermacher.
J,

I was went over to full fill your request for Fenstermacher. It appears that someone claimed it, however they never posted the picture. I went ahead and posted the picture you needed. I also took the time to utilize the other site known as Billion Graves while I was there. I just wanted you to be aware that you may find others in that cemetery that I have done.

I hope that other site is helpful.

Thanks,
Mark Gillespie
Added by Mark A Gillespie on Apr 23, 2014 8:45 PM
JD STEPHENS, U.S. NAVY VETERAN
Fenstermachers

Hello J,
Please contact me via jdamianstephens@comcast.net
JD
Added by JD STEPHENS, U.S. NAVY VE... on Apr 23, 2014 4:55 PM
Wendy McIntosh
Fenstermachers
Please contact me via macclan2@verizon.net

Thank you
Wendy
Added by Wendy McIntosh on Apr 22, 2014 7:54 AM
Kathy
Memorial for Maude E. Whims (21679637)
Hello, J Martin. I received your request to transfer this memorial to you, and would be happy to as long as your request complies with Find a Grave's guidelines at http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=listFaqs#79. You didn't give any information on your ties to Maude in your original email, and there was no way to contact you privately.
Added by Kathy on Apr 17, 2014 11:11 AM
kricker61
RE: Oakdale Cemetery, Marysville, Union, Ohio
You are welcome and photo added per request
Added by kricker61 on Apr 14, 2014 4:44 PM
Dennis Friedman
RE: Edward Peter Fenstermaker
Hi J Martin
Sorry I had a typo, not david, Peter
On Edward's memorial, he is listed as, Edward Peter Fenstermaker 1900 to 1937. there is no Edward Fenstermaker, listed in all of stark Co, Ohio, from the list done by The Ohio Genealogical Society. Stark County Chapter, Cemetery Inscriptions for all of Stark Co, Ohio. on that list it shows, Canton Twp., Valley Chapel Cemetery # 103, Section 1, end of row 13, "should be a short row"
Fenstermaker Peter, (Son),1900 - 1937.
David (Father) 1858 -1936.
Cathrine 1860 - 1932
There has been many time that I have seen, someone was not where thy where supposed to be, by the death record or the Obituary.
Sorry for the typo , Dennis Friedman
Added by Dennis Friedman on Apr 13, 2014 4:23 PM
S.(Rodabaugh)Hanley
Fenstermakers
Found more Festermakers in Zion Bloom in Hancoock co ohio. Check them out, if you want them will be happy to transfer...no family of mine...just love having some family to work on..
Added by S.(Rodabaugh)Hanley on Apr 05, 2014 5:21 PM
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Added by Dorris Smith djsmith28@ho... on Mar 21, 2014 7:50 PM
Alan Kraft
John Fenstermacher & Mary Yetter
Me again! I am running into discrepancies for this individual. Your info shows death date as 9 June 1894 - I have 6 June 1894. Marriages/wives - looks like there were 3, but not sure of the order. Was Mary Magdelena number 1 or number 3? According to narrative from Marsha Fenstermacher-Binkley, 1st wife was Maria Grise. Under Mary's site you have one child - Theobold. There were 10 children - not sure how many with which wife. One last thing (for now)- I have a birth year for Mary Yetter as 1816.

Again, how are we related? Elias Fenstermacher is my great great grandfather. Who are you related to?

Denise Blackwell-Kraft
Added by Alan Kraft on Mar 17, 2014 11:53 AM
RickC
RE: Minersville Hill Cemetery, Meigs, OH
You are very welcome for the photos. I'm glad I was able to take the photos for you. Unfortunately, I don't remember seeing any other Fenstermaker or Kruzyk or Zahl markers. That does not mean there are not any others there. I will recheck again sometime when I am back in the area of the cemetery.
Added by RickC on Mar 06, 2014 4:17 AM
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