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|Savannah Cemetery||RE: Frank Milor @ Savannah|
Unfortunately, what we relayed in our last message is all the information we have.
The address on his death certificate would be considered "skid row" today, but in 1940, I'm not so sure. Might be worth more research to find out. If he was working, it's possible it was a low cost housing option not far from his job.
We have many people who died at L.A. County Hospital buried at Savannah. L.A. County Hospital is on the east side of Los Angeles, about 10 miles away. We also see it listed on many certificates for those who died of tuberculosis.
It's possible that La Crescenta refers to the residence of the person who purchased the plot, but without other records, we have no way to know for sure. It could have been an extended family member, or even just a friend. Savannah drew from a wide area, so it could have been someone with a previous connection to the El Monte/Rosemead area.
We have no records to indicate exactly when the plot was purchased, tho' generally, it seems most were purchased at the time they were first needed. Often the additional spaces that were purchased wind up never being used as the purchaser moves, remarries, or otherwise changes their circumstances. Often the intent is to place a joint headstone when the second person passes, and then it never happens. Likewise, sometimes the first person gets a marker but not the second. There's no one consistent scenario.
Frank Milor's grave is in a section of the cemetery that has been vandalized several times over the years (late 40s/early 50s). The casualties were always upright markers. It's possible there was a headstone at one time, but it could have been destroyed in one of those incidents.
Most instances of 2 plots purchased together are probably being purchased for spouses, but we also have plenty of cases of parent/child, siblings, and just good friends being buried together.
Mater & Simone was probably chosen by whoever was contacted by L.A. County at the time he died. L.A. County has it's own internal mortuary services, and if he was unclaimed, he would have wound up at the L.A. County Crematorium Cemetery. I don't know if L.A. County would share any records with you, but it might be worth a try.
The address for Mater & Simone is still a funeral home today. If they purchased Mater & Simone it's unlikely they still have any records, but also might be worth a try.
Sorry we no longer have records of who purchased the gravesite, but the fact that he's at Savannah rather than unclaimed at the County definitely indicates someone cared. It may or may not not have been a direct family member, but someone cared enough to make sure he had his own resting place.
Have you contacted the person who now manages his page? She is probably related in some way, given the spelling of her last name. It's possible she may have some additional information, or know of any family members also in the L.A. area at that time. Just click on her name and it will take you to her contributor page. She would probably be the best resource at this point.
Good luck with your ongoing research!
|svh77||RE: Frank Milor Photos|
You're welcome, glad to be able to help!
Sorry it took so long, but it's been wickedly hot out here these last few weeks.
If you'd like full size copies, let me know your email address and I'll gladly send them....or drop a note to the cemetery's yahoo email address (savannahcemetery).
Added by svh77 on Aug 27, 2012 10:24 PM
|Savannah Cemetery||Frank Milor @ Savannah|
According to the original burial ledger, Frank Milor's space was paid for, but does not indicate by whom. The Section Map shows an empty space next to him with the same last name, so whoever purchased the plots may have intended it for another family member, but ultimately never used it. The ledger also shows his "late residence" was in La Crescenta, CA.
You might want to ask the person who manages the page now for more details, since they also seem to be a relative.
Alternatively, you could request a copy of his death certificate from the Los Angeles County Recorder's Office. It's possible that the Informant may have been the one to make the arrangements, which were handled by Mater & Simone of Los Angeles.
We didn't find an obit for him in the Los Angeles Times, but that's not too surprising due to the distance between El Monte/Rosemead and Los Angeles -- especially in 1942.
One of our volunteers will get an area photo for you in the next few days -- hopefully it will cool off a little!
|Keep the Flame Lit||Savannah|
Hello Lin, I live near this cemetary, it has alot of Santa Fe Trail era people buried their. I bet if you consulted the LA County coroners office, they would have any records of indigent burial's. I have seen a show in the past and they keep pretty meticulas records especially if a name is known. Hope this help's and I would also like to ad you to my friends list, as I will make it down to savannah and have a look for myself.
Hi Lin, I was able to go to Whispering Pines after work yesterday and found Beatrice's gravesite. I took pictures and posted them, never could find anything for Jesse Ruth.
|Mark's Mom||Beatrice Buell Gardner|
I added Beatrice's last name, since I forgot to do that when I first put her memorial up. I did link her with her parents. I'm still trying to find little Jesse Ruth. Hopefully, maybe in the next week or two, I can take a drive to Whispering Pines, and try to find Beatrice's marker. I found Beatrice's information from a 1964, transcript of the cemetery, so hopefully 50 years later her marker is still there.
|Mark's Mom||Aunt Beatrice|
Will try to find the information you're looking for, I did a photo request for Beatrice, and there are alot of great people who might be able to take a picture for us.
I'll try to find some information on Jesse Ruth Gardner, then I will transfer what memorials I posted that are part of your family.