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Pat H (#47177294)
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Bio Photo Retired. I've been researching my assorted families since 1985. I belong to several Genealogical societies and have worked on some indexing projects here in Illinois. Northeast Philadelphia is where I grew up. I've found several burials on find-a-grave that I didn't have. They complete the family stories. I hope I can help others by adding names and photos to this project.


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KENNETH MILANO
Mutual Burial Ground of Kensington
Dear Sir/Madam:

I am writing to you because you are listed as a person who posted a burial on the Find-A-Grave website for Mutual Burial Ground of Kensington.

I have been researching this cemetery for awhile and I have yet to find a record of the cemetery closing or the bodies being removed, and yet it must have happened. I'll be going to Orphans Court this next week to check some further records, otherwise it has been very difficult to find anything.Harrisburg's PHMC has nothing on this cemetery.

The cemetery above the ground does not exist. It has been paved over. The best I can tell is that it was active from 1832 to about at least 1868, which is the last burial at the cemetery that was found by Charles Barker, a Philadelphia cemetery historian, who wrote a monumental work back in 1947 that was never published, but which the mss exists at the Historical Society of Pennsylvania.

In the 1820s the fashion of creating mutual beneficial association cemeteries came into vogue. Prior to that it was churchyards and potter's fields, with a very occasional odd cemetery like Kensington's Kensington Burial Ground, a.k.a. Palmer Cemetery, where the Palmer family in 1765 gave the community a burial ground and it was not related to any particular church.

There were 5 mutual grounds founded south of Philadelphia, and at least 3 north of Philadelphia, the 3 in Kensington (Union Harmony Burial Ground part of the Hanover Grounds, Union Burial Ground of Kensington and Northern Liberties a.k.a. West Street, a.k.a several other names, and Mutual Burial Ground of Kensington).

However, these were beneficial societies, and thus once the original generation died off, the organizations seemed to have failed as well, and they were taken over by local funeral directors, etc. Mutual Burial Ground of Kensington does not seem to have officially owned the cemetery grounds, rather they used the grounds to bury their members, with Nicholas Helverson seeming to be the man that did the burials (he was from down on Fairmount Avenue, and was an undertaker).

So as the cemetery either filled, or the society folded, the burial ground became defunct, and eventually was "presumably" removed and things were built on top of it.

Right now the cemetery is "sealed" and protected. However, there is a chance of the buildings on top of it coming down and the ground being disturbed.

We (a concerned group of preservationists, historians, neighbors, and folks with family burial in the burial ground) have researched the cemetery and wrote up an historical nomination application. It first has to get on the calendar for the designation committee of the Philadelphia Historical Commission (PHC), once on the calendar the application will be heard by said committee, they give it a thumbs up or thumbs down, or they ask you to tweak it and come back to next meeting, or if it gets a thumbs up, it goes to the full board of the Historical Commission for the same process, a thumbs up or down or a request to tweak and return.

At present we are at the point where we are trying to get the application scheduled, calendared, by the designation committee. PHC is in the process of moving their office, thus there is at least a two week delay in reading applications (the staff reads applications, makes sure they are correct, etc etc, if they have any requests, they send it back to you, you tweak it, hand it back in if good they put in on the calendar). There is also a slight backlog of applications, so it could be 2 or 4 weeks before our application is read.

We would like to preserve the cemetery. By preserving the cemetery it will help protect any human remains that might still exist underground.

I have been in contact with the Clerk of the Orphans Court of Philadelphia, that handles defunct cemeteries, I also notified the Pennsylvania Museum and Historical Commission, to see what options there are. There is a law already in place that if human remains are found in a construction site, they have to shut the site down and notify the city.

I would like a letter of support from you and any others in your family, if you agree with me. Our best recourse would be to have descendants support in preserving the cemetery and to not disturb any human remains that may lie under these grounds. If you would like to support us in our effort, you can simply send me an email of support, stating support, the name of your ancestor if you have it (I got you email off of find-a-grave website), the name of cemetery, etc. I will print out copies and give them to the Historical Commission. I will also keep you posted on the progress. Also, get your mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, and anyone else that has a connection to this ancestor of yours that is buried in this cemetery.

I realize that some folks have posted on Find-A-Grave and the person you posted is not your ancestor, that's okay, you could still send a letter of support. It won't be an ancestor, but it will be from a person knowledgeable about the cemetery.

Thanking you in advance, kennethmilano@verizon.net



Added by KENNETH MILANO on Apr 08, 2016 8:31 PM
P. Eadie
Waldo Buck
Hi Pat,
We just returned from Westminster Cemetery in Phila., Pa where we successfully located Waldo Buck. Unfortunately, the stone has fallen over. We found it because his name and dates are inscribed on the side of the stone. I would like you to see the photo before I upload it to his site. Can i have an email address so I can send it to you? Please advise. Pat
Added by P. Eadie on Apr 01, 2016 3:14 PM
P. Eadie
RE: Lydia Green
Hi Lydia,
You are very welcome, glad I could assist. With Lydia were Ida (1865 ) and Lydia H (1883). Neither Stuckert lady has a memorial site on Find A Grave. If you would like to create sites for them, I would be happy to upload photos to their sites as well. Pat
Added by P. Eadie on Mar 24, 2016 6:03 PM
P. Eadie
Lydia Green,
Added by P. Eadie on Mar 24, 2016 5:59 PM
Joe Chando
RE: Raymond M Kohl
Hi Pat,

He's not related, just looked up his death certificate and it listed he was at Fairview, Allentown.

Joe
Added by Joe Chando on Mar 22, 2016 1:53 AM
Peggy Bargen Duey
Anna Felker Memorial # 107679752
I haven't accepted your edit because it doesn't agree with her death certificate. Can you give me any further proof because I know that sometimes death certificates are wrong? thanks!!!
Added by Peggy Bargen Duey on Mar 13, 2016 8:29 PM
Zoe Tom
The Thornes at Laurel Hill
Thanks for the help. Apparently, I got interupted in the middle of adding the Thorne people to Laurel Hill Cemetery. There are more Thornes there now. Any help is very much appreciated.

Let me know if these are your kin.

Zoe

Added by Zoe Tom on Mar 09, 2016 8:28 PM
Jill
John Mohr
I am looking for documentation of the death date for John Mohr. You have posted June 6, 1862. Can you please share the documentation do you have for that date. I am in need of it for DAR application.
Thank you,
Jill Stephens
Added by Jill on Oct 17, 2015 6:38 AM
J. H. O'Cain Jr
Joseph Ebright
A while back I submitted a link to Joseph's parents Jacob and Elizabeth Ebright but you were apprehensive to the connection. I just read a Will from Lydia Ebrite who died in 1832 and she lists Jacobs six minor children by name for inheritance. If you would like to read the will it is free to view till Monday 9-7-2015 on Ancestry.com. I will submit links and hopefully you will agree.


Jim
Added by J. H. O'Cain Jr on Sep 06, 2015 10:35 PM
Decal
Mary Crader #15125246
I changed Mary's birthdate as you suggested (my mistake) but I don't understand how my memorial which I added on August 2, 2006 is a duplicate to one that wasn't added until August 26, 2011. Wouldn't that make the other one the duplicate?
Added by Decal on Apr 08, 2015 9:51 PM
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