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|Mayflower Pilgrim 332||Stowells|
Wondering if you had done any more research on the Stowells. Richard. Hope all is well.
|Mary Beth||Jennet Hopkins gravestone picture|
Thank you so much for taking the time out of your day to fulfill my photo request.
|Mayflower Pilgrim 332||Eliphalet Stowell|
The dates and parentage of Eliphalet is questionable. There is, as I recall from Stowell Genealogy, a big age difference from children born to Samuel and Hannah Stowell and age of Eliphalet, who Stowell Genealogy says his parents are. I am going back and looking at the Stowell Genealogy from a different set of eyes now. Any ideas who parents of Eliphalet are?
|Mayflower Pilgrim 332||Stowell --Brookside Cemetery, Watertown, New York|
Any idea who Percy Stowell born 1790, wife of John Stowell might be? They had son Lucius and daughter Platina Stowell Patterson. This plot was just added and photos taken this week. Was John Stowell a brother of Eliphalet?
|Cathy K.||Eliphalet Stowell|
Hi Janet -- It has been a long time since we corresponded! I was pleased to see you are still working on this family. I have been a member of the Mayflower Society for over a year through Sybel, glad to see you are too. After reading about your hunt for the burial for Sybel and Eliphalet, I would like to offer that sometimes the old gravestones break and end up laying flat. We found such a stone that we knew should be there but was no longer visible. Ended up taking a wire cloths hanger and pushed it in the ground about where we thought a marker would be and found the stone completely covered in dirt.
Not to throw a clunker into this genealogy but I am wondering if maybe Eliphalet is NOT the son of Samuel & Hannah but of maybe Warren? Something just does not seem to fit on that line and we do know that there are errors in the Stowell Genealogy.
Added by Cathy K. on Aug 15, 2009 11:00 AM
|Mayflower Pilgrim 332||Stowell|
Since yesterday, I have been thinking about children being buried with grandparents--in the plot in Lebo, Ks, GRC Stowell is buried with his wife, Mahala and two of their grandchildren. This was a common practice in years prior to 1900. We can't rule out that Sybel may be there but stone disappeared since it would have been placed in 1825 period. In addition for your information, I just learned from a "find a grave volunteer" who took photos on my "Lawley" memorials, she took a can of shaving cream with her on her visits and found graves that I had been searching for 7 months but could not find the right cemetery to put them in. Anyway, she found graves with tombstones, Stephen's stone was broken and she sprayed shaving cream on stones to bring out the writing on stone so you could see what was on stone. You might want to look at these sites to see what happens when shaving cream applied. After she took pictures of stones, she ran water over stone and of course, they dryed. This was a new one on me using shaving cream. But, these stones on these graves she took are preserved now forever and we know where my great great great great grandparents are at and there is a historic record. My point is we can't overlook any trace of Sybel which might have been left in this cemetery. For some reason, William Henry Harrison Stowell, author of Stowell Genealogy, placed her death in Amboy, Oswego County, NY. If not for him, we would not have anything to work with. Just a thought for the day.
|Mayflower Pilgrim 332||Revisit of Amboy Cemetery|
Good idea. Don't rule out any stone you can't read. You will be looking at the cemetery from a different view now. If there are empty spaces next to Frances Mary that is a clue, or if she is far apart from graves on either side that is a clue, or any sign that a stone was there once is a clue. Public records for interments are wrong alot of time or have gone by wayside. This is why preservation of tombstones in find a grave is very important. Once I started on this Stowell genealogy years ago, I was determined to find out where they were buried particularly after I filed my Mayflower papers on these lines. So far, I have been the only person filing on Sybel Rogers Stowell lines for the Mayflower Society. It preserves our research. My father is the descendant of Sybel & Eliphalet thru his mother. My mother is a descendant of John Howland and John Tilley of Mayflower thru her father. This happened about every four generations in my family where someone married a Mayflower descendant giving mulitple Mayflower lines. I am very sure Eliphalet Stowell is a descendant of Henry Sampson with two lines but Mayflower Society asking for more proof of a marriage that we can't find or a grave we can't find. It is very nice being able to communicate with someone about Sybel and Eliphalet Stowell.
|Mayflower Pilgrim 332||Frances Mary Stowell Plot|
Do you recall if this plot where Frances is buried has burials on each side of stone--appears no one on either side in photo. It could be there was never stone for Sybel, stone got stolen like so many of these stones did in the 1960's, stone got distroyed when mowing grave. If the public health nurse took you to all cemeteries, then whomever she talked to may not have looked at a master list and only glanced to see if "Stowell" in Amboy cemeteries. I am a college trained American history genealogist and have been taught to look at every genealogy challenge as a legal one. (I have another child gravestone story just like Frances Mary Stowell--child is buried in one Mennonite Cemetery and her parents are in a Mennonite Cemetery five miles down the road.) Transportation in 1825 and 1850 is not like now. Person ended up being buried where they died. It also could be we will find Sybel where Eliphalet Stowell is buried. You just don't know, but it is a good puzzle to figure out. There are many men named "Eliphalet", believe it or not in New England families.
|Mayflower Pilgrim 332||Amboy|
Did the historian check all cemeteries in Amboy? If not in Amboy, probably I need to look for where her mother is buried in New York State. Thanks for all your help. Your site for Frances Mary Stowell looks nice.
|Mayflower Pilgrim 332||Sybel Rogers Stowell|
I went ahead and added a site for Sybel Rogers. Your discovery of Frances Mary Stowell gravesite ten years ago verifies this Stowell family in Amboy, Oswego County, New York. I am going to find out whether she is in an unmarked grave in this cemetery. This is a good place for Sybel until we can find out where she is at. There is suppose to be an inventory of all people buried in cemeteries in Amboy, Oswego County. Thanks for your help. I have also ask owner of Phineas memorial to link to Sybel and Eliphalet sites. Maybe someone will see sites and know where she is at.
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