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|Robert Clyde Cover||Your grandfather|
served is the US Army during World War II. He served in General George S. Pattons 3rd Army in the Rhineland, Germany and France. He could have gotten a deferment as a farm employee but he told his father he had to go. His sister Elizabeth Allen enlisted in the WACS during WWII.
|Robert Clyde Cover||DAR|
If any of your family would ever want to join the Daughters of the American Revolution, we can trace our family back to Gibsons who were in War of 1812 and before. This is Chas Clifford Allen's great and great great grandfathers, Thomas Gibson buried in Hale Twp., Illinois and his father John Gibson who is buried near Xenia, Ohio. See, we have family all over the US.
|Robert Clyde Cover||Irish|
You should have your mom and dad take all of you this month to the big Irish Festival in Greeley since you are Irish. My older brother Tom and I talked about going but he is having some heart troubles and I am trying to get my arthritic knees fixed or replaced and can't do a lot of long distance driving or walking.
|Robert Clyde Cover||Cliff and Jennie|
They got married in 1911. The farmer that CC worked for have him half a day off to get married. They rented a farm for one year SW of town. In 1912 they bought their starter farm on Hwy 281 4 miles north of Greeley. Her parents, James and Mary Ann Berryman owned the farm to the west of theirs. They built a small 2 bedroom house the first year, then the barn. In 1925 they built their big house, laborers from Mexico came to build it. They had the first house built in Greeley with a built in bathtub. People came from all over to see their new bathroom and tub. They turned the small house into a chicken coop and storage building. The house is still there but a Mrs Jeffres bought it and made a lot of changes. The house they bought in 1952 in town by the catholic church is still there too but also many changes were made to it. In the 1930's during the large drought and the depression, Cliff couldn't sell his cattle so he shipped them by train to a ranch in Texas. Nebraska and Kansas were really hard hit by the drought. When things were better a couple of years later, he brought them back to their farm.
|Robert Clyde Cover||Your Armatus family|
Hi again, I entered a photo of your grandmother Lucille Armatus Allen which is not good quality but the best I can do. Also, look up William and Myrtle Armatus. They are Lucille's parents, your other great grandparents. It has their birth dates and birth places.
|Robert Clyde Cover||Myrtle|
I think I just learned something new. If Myrtle is your dads sister we always called her Mitzi because thats what your greatgrandparents called her. When you mention her daughter and Tim's I assume they had daughters that passed away? The last time I saw your grandmother was when I was 10 years old - in 1963. Every other summer when my dad was alive we went to Greeley for a weeks vacation. Well my Grampa Allen told me to go back to the house and get a bottle of pop and he wanted some warm well water as we had been killing off weeds and snakes all morning. She was feeding Mitzi in a high chair and was making dinner and it was HOT. It was always hot when we went to Nebraska.She must have already been sick from her brain tumor because she died the next year.Your Grampa James Allen had to been scared out of his mind having to raise 8 kids by himself. I spent most of my time with your Uncle Jimmmy because we are the same age.And he chumed around with Dan and Denny O'Gorman which I never knew they were cousins until a few years ago just before my mother died. Their mother was also an Armatus like you grandmother Lucille. I don't know if my mother had any pics of Lucille but will ask my brother ans sister if they do since they have all my mothers papers and my brother is still living in my mothers house in Warren, Michigan. If they can find one we will enter it on her name on findagrave. My mother was told by her father that her grandfather was a Pony Express rider which I know can't be Charles August Allen because he was born in 1859 and the Pony Express ended after on year in 1860. It had to be James Bruce Allen who was born in 1836 in Hale Township near Monmouth, Illinois. There were a lot of jobs on that route so James could have been a horse handler or a rider. In 1860 it folded up because the Telegraph was invented.Just north of you is the Oregon Trail which is probably the road traveled by the Allen's to get into Nebraska territory. What I have found is that the Allens I have researched -our family- never stayed in one place very long. Every generation they moved. It's really rare you guys and your parents stayed because you are 5th generation in your Allen family to have lived in Nebraska. BINGO, I just thought of something. I have a photo of your Grandmother Lucille. My sister and I enter family tree info whenever books are written about towns and churches. Sacred HEart Church and Greeley published a book about 10-15 years ago but somehow our info missed the deadline to get our Allen's listed as founding family's in Scotia and Greeley. BUT someone put a photo of your grandmother, her sisters and her parents - your greatgrandparents William and Myrtle Orgil) Armatus. So look up Lucille Armatus Allen next time you get this and I will put in in by scanner. I hope it doesn't upset your dad. Evidently our families are really alike. My mother and us never got over my dad dying so young and neither did the Wilsons when their dad died young. I am looking at the Sacred Heart Church book now and it says that William and Myrtle Armatus had six children: Fern, Lucille, Bobby, Bill Jr and Bernice.Bernice inherited the Greeley City Cafe from her parents and sold it in 1987 because of advancing age.I scanned the photo. Its not very good because blown up so much but it's all I have.
|Robert Clyde Cover||Your Family Line|
Hi again Lucy. If you have a scanner and have any pics of your Grampa James and Grandmother Lucille why not enter them on find a grave. I last saw her shortly before she died and I last saw him in 1966 and saw a photo of him and his kids taken about 1975 or so.
|Robert Clyde Cover||Aksarben|
Hi there, thanks for sending a note. Always nice to chat with another long lost relative. My sister Karen andborhter Greg and I know a lot about Allen and Berryman history because my mother Catherine Leone Allen Cover had a sharp mind for facts and could remember almost everything she was ever told. They had some rotten luck in their generation. In 1964 your grandmother Lucille died young, my dad died in 1966 when he was only 42 and Aunt Elizabeth's husband, Charlie Wilson, died when he was only 51. And here Cliff and Jennie Lived to be both 80.The last time I was in Greeley was in 1966 after my dad died. I was only 13. I sure had a lot of fun out there with your Uncle Jimmy and his cousins the O'Gorman twins. We used to have Pappy Torson buy us cigarettes and give him some gas money for it. Our Wilson cousins all live in the suburbs of Cleveland, Ohio which is where I was born. My dad got a good job transfer to the Detroit area in 1954 so we moved there. Last summer when I saw some of the Wilsons, we all commented on how different our lives were over your dad and his brothers and sisters. We had larger towns, more schools, a lot more advantages if you were interested in making your life better. After my dad died we had not money so things were hard but we all put ourselves though college paying our own way. I am in the strangest job of them all. I own a small town funeral home, place called Dundee, Michigan about 4000 people between Ann Arbor and Toledo, Ohio, about 50 miles SW of Detroit. My daughter is 27 and is an xray technician at the University of Michigan Hospital and my son graduated from Eastern Michigan University last year. Our economy is soo bad now he can't find any jobs here. All of his friends who have left this state have done better. Thats probably why Shannon went to Garden Grove, California. Sometimes I ramble on so bear with me. So anyway I don't know how things are in Grand Island but in Greeley if you aren't some big farmer, I am sure life would pretty much suck. When your grampa James Allen came home from the War in 1945 he did not want to be a farmer. His dad forced him into it. James was a reat mechanic and could fix radios and tv's like my dad did in his spare time.He just couldn't stand up to his dad so he stayed and married Lucille and stayed on the farm. The last time I spoke with your grandfather, he told me he bought a new elephant gun and I should come out to Greeley for some big game hunting. He was pretty funny. I am sure your dad has told you about that mean old lady with the broken down old Cadillac who was their housekeeper after Lucille died. WHAT A WITCH. Whew. Do you have any interest in family history or geneology? I am guessing you do since you found find a grave. I have traced my Cover family back into Germany in 1550, They spelled their name Kober then.My sister Karen put me onto find a grave. I got energetic and started putting names and info on so in case I kicked the bucket this info would not be lost. If you want to know any family history email me at firstname.lastname@example.org. I can tell you a lot. I have traced to Allen's back to 1760 in North Carolina. Your great grandmother Jennie Selfridge Berryman, my sister Karen found her parents only back to when they came here from Ringsend, Ireland about 1895 or so. My grampa Allen's family are interesting, especially where they moved. One of your great great great great great grandfathers, Zachariah Allen was born in NC in 1760, was married twice and had 25 kids with these 2 wives. He moved west into Green County, Illinois which is almost into St. Louis, Missouri. His son Thomas Smith Allen moved to Hale Twp., near Monmouth, Illinois where Wyatt Earp was born. Our family probably knew the Earps. Thomas Allen had a son James Bruce ALlen who left Monmouth, Ill area and moved to Ringgold County, Iowa down at the bottom of the state. He had a son Charles Augustus Allen who moved into Scotia, NE and was a barber there and also farmed. He is buried in Dalton., NE near Sidney on the western end of the state. His son was Charles CLIFFORD Allen - our line, then down to James - your grandfather.So these people moved around.Heres a story about your grampa James Allen. Everyone loved him even when he was young. He was a natural born cook like his mother Jennie. When Jennie's mother was dying on the farm west of theirs out Hwy 281 in Greeley, she spent a lot of time taking care of her mother. James told his mother he could cook supper for the family. My mother said he died a great job. But, my mother was a lot younger than he was. He was making chocolate pudding for desert and wouldn't give my mother any. So my mother picked up the wall phone and asked the operator to get her mother at Grandma Berrymans house. She told her mother James was making pudding with dinner and wouldn't share. Back then they had party line phones so a lot of people were listening in on that phone call. The next day when James went to school, everyone made fun of him because he had to cook and liked it. I guess it was embarassing for him. Well when I in school I hated history. Now that I am older and can place my ancestors at certain places and times, I am fascinated by it. So if there are any things you might be interested in - let me know. I have said for years that I could be sitting in a restaurant and my 8 Allen cousins could be sitting there and we would not even know each other. That's just a shame. But NE is a long ways from Ohio and Michigan.To hard to travel back and forth. I always wondered what happened to Jimmy, Mitzi, Billy, Linda and all the rest of the kids. We know about Shannon passing away. When she died, my older brother Tom and I tried to get a plane out to Omaha and were going to rent a car and drive to Greeley but she was only shown one night and the funeral was over too quick. They usually do things longer here on funerals. Another of your ancestors was named Jane Gibson Allen, born near Xenia, Ohio in 1818 and died near Garrison, kansas in 1980. He husband was Thomas Smith Allen who died at age 35 leaving her with 6 young kids. She had a farm in Hale Township,near Monmouth, Illinois. Her mom died so her dad moved in with them to help her until her kids got older. She moved to Kansas with one of her sons when she got old. She was buried in the Garrison Cemetery. In 1957 the Army Corp of Engineers flooded a few towns because of the Mississippi River flodding over its banks. They told people in these low lying towns they could moved their houses to higher ground, barns, stores, out buildings and even their deceased family members. Well, I have never found that they ever moved up old Jane so she is probably at the bottom of this lake still in her grave at the cemetery. Sad story really. With the internet, your world really expands. Before this, I had to do geneology and history the old way - by spending time in libraries and driving to look up records. Internet really does make this better. Just like you and I were able to connect though this. This wasn't possible 10-20-30 or more years ago. Kind of fascinating really. I am guessing you live in Grand Island too. My mother said her parents always made a big thing of driving to GI after Sunday AM church. They had a favorite restaurant they went to. She said her parents never argued, always treated each other with respect, really loved each other. She also said her mother was one of the finest women God ever put on this earth. So you come from good stock.BUT Cliff did have on mean temper when he got mad. He might take it out on his kids but never his wife. Jennie was raised in the United Methodist Church in Greeley while Cliff or CC as he was called was Catholic. She converted to Catholic when she got married. Some f her fam,ily were always mad at her because of this. James - your grampa- once was sleeping in on a Sunday morning when she was ready to go to church. She grabed a broom and started whacking him with it. She said with all she had to go though to become Catholic, not one of her kids was ever going to miss Mass.He got dressed in a hurry and went. My mother said he never talked back to his parents. Of course their sister Elizabeth and my mother never did either. My mother and her sister were both able to escape Greeley, James was not so lucky. Especially since my mom and aunt said he hated farming. Hey, I better stop this for now. It's Aug 31st almost midnite. We haven't gone anywhere or done anything for this holiday. With our business, its very confining. Whenever we want to do something or go somewhere, somebody dies like this morning so we have to cancel a lot of things. I hope you had a good summer, learned some new things, spent time with your friends and family, and are looking forward to 2009 being an exciting leap into the future. Keep in touch, Like I said, anything I can tell you about any of you old Allen kin - let me know. I was going to put something in book form and send it to the Greeley library and Courthouse for future generations but haven't done it yet. Seems like you only have one uncle left in Greeley and life hasn't turned out very well for him. Take care, thanks for contacting me!!!! Bob Cover - Dundee, Michigan