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Sara Kranpitz
Rose Elizabeth Zeumer Morse #141289912
Hi there -
Rose is my grandfather's sister. if you can add links to her parents. My grandfather is Richard Palmer Zeumer #171691723 and their parents are Elbert P Zeumer #171689146 and Myrtle Hobson Zeumer #171689399.


Sara Kranpitz
Added by Sara Kranpitz on Oct 22, 2016 1:28 PM
Scott W. Trent Jr.
the Stokley D.'s.....
I wonder if over time folks have confused the earlier one with the later one, and if in that process have over looked the fact that there may well have been two James C. Trent's as well a the James H.(uston) Trent that belonged to George & Lydia M. (Gibbs) Trent.... with the one that belonged to Henry & Charity (Stokely?) Trent of TN-KY. ??

6-11)Stokley D.(elestras) Trent - (b.___-___-1847-48)(d.___-___-1923)
-parents were Henry & Charity (Stokley?) or (Wickman?) Trent of VA & TN
-born in Morgan Co., KY
-died in Wolfe Co., KY at age 79
-buried in Quillen Chapel Cemetery in Wolfe Co., KY
-Stokley D. md. Lydia A.(nn) “Liddie” Rose of KY
-parents were Anderson & Eleanor (Murphy) Rose of KY.

6-4)James C. Trent - (
-he’s an "Uncle" to William N.(elson) Trent of KY.
-parents were Henry & Charity (Stokley) / (Wickman) Trent of VA-TN-KY
-born in Hawkins Co., TN
-died in Breathitt Co., KY at age 46-47
-there is an "Administrator's Bond" on Find-a-Grave for him!
-buried in _____________________ Cemetery in Breathitt Co., KY
-James C. md. 1st. Arminta "Millie" Miller of VA

AND THEN I wonder if any one has details on this? possible 2nd. marriage for this James C. Trent of KY....
-then did James C. (#6-4), pg. #105, then md. 2nd. Sally (Trent) Fortiner(?) of Wise Co., VA
(b. )(d. )
-parents were Alexander & Mary F. (Quillen) Trent of VA
-born in Wise Co., VA
-died in ___________ Co., ___ at age ___
-buried in ___________________ Cemetery in __________ Co., ___
-they were md. ___________ in Wise Co., VA
-he was ___ yrs. old, she was ___ yrs. old
-they had ___ children: (?)
7-?) names, dates?
-no details yet!

AND THEN how do we settle the different in the ONE that is listed under the Stokley D. Trent on Find-a-Grave that shows him having a sibling named James C. when there seems to be a difference in what I have from Maxine Vernon of Huntington, WVA.....

7-1)James H.(uston) Trent - (b.11-22-1864)(d. )
-parents were George W. & Lydia M. “Libby- Liddie” (Gibbs) Trent of KY
-born in Cedar Breath, Breathitt Co., KY
-he is listed in the SS Index of 1937 as being born on the above date, father was a George Trent, mother was a Lida Gibbs and his full name was only James Trent, no middle name or intital was given.
-died in Wolfe Co., KY at age ___
-buried in ______________________ Cemetery in Wolfe Co., KY
-James H. md. 1st. Nancy J.(ane) Trent of KY

-then James H. (#7-1), pg. #199 md. 2nd. Frances Smith of KY
(b. ca. 1901)(d. )
-parents were __________________________ Smith of KY
-born in Breathitt Co., KY
-died in __________ Co., ___ at age ___
-buried in ________________ Cemetery in ___________
Co., ___
-they were md. 12-14-1921 in Breathitt or Wolfe Co., KY
-he was ___ yrs. old, she was 20 yrs. old
-they had nine(9) children:

So I would hope that others beside Eileen would chat in here and help us solve the "confusions"..... Thanks,
Scott Trent - VA

Added by Scott W. Trent Jr. on Oct 07, 2016 11:45 AM
Scott W. Trent Jr.
RE: Trying to figure out marriages???
"Trent Family
Hi Scott, My Aunt is Mattie Trent Pierce (Find A Grave 61576400) Her parents are is Lewis Cass Trent and Susan Frazier. Thanks for sharing what you know. I appreciate all the help I can get with putting our family puzzle together. Lynda

Added by Lynda White on Oct 04, 2016 1:30 PM"
Added by Scott W. Trent Jr. on Oct 06, 2016 7:21 AM
Scott W. Trent Jr.
RE: Trying to figure out marriages???
Eileen, thanks, this all came abt. in an answer on a Mattie Trent Pierce on Find-a- There is a message in this column on that which gives me the "idea" that there were three marriages..... hmmm.... you say four..... and accordingly this Mattie had a step father? so that raised the ? of the 2nd. or 3rd. wife marrying after his death..... hmmm......
Scott Trent - VA
Added by Scott W. Trent Jr. on Oct 06, 2016 7:20 AM
Scott W. Trent Jr.
Trying to figure out marriages???
Question?... Ok, I found this via your email.... so this gets confusing! Apparently Lewis Cass Trent was md. THREE times... 1st. to Susan Hays(Hayes) of KY, so do you have a marriage date for that marriage? Then he md. 2nd. Louise Burkhardt of KY, do you have a marriage date for that marriage? Then he md. 3rd. Elizabeth M. "Lizzie" (Faulkner) Banks of KY, do you have a marriage date for that marriage? For with a birth of 1924 for Mattie, she has to be from either marriage two or three.

OR do you have Louise Burkhardt as an Louise Elizabeth or Elizabeth Louise and she was not maiden surnamed Banks?, but a Faulkner? and therefore md. at least once before she md. Lewis Cass Trent?

It looks as IF he divorced Susan Hays and that they had no children, while she had children by a husband before marrying Lewis Cass... as she was md. to a Robert Frazier (b.1843)...... Then he md. Louise and they had one child, Rev. John Henry Trent and so did she die? or did he divorce her? and then md. Elizabeth Faulkner of ??

Who was Grandpa "Will"? Was Lewis Cass Trent also called or known as "Will", no, that would have to apply to William Franklin Wadkins...RIGHT!! SO this line up of marriages would have to mean what? Back to an incomplete naming of the 2nd. wife?

Thanks, Scott Trent - VA
Added by Scott W. Trent Jr. on Oct 05, 2016 7:54 AM
franklin mallory
RE: sam houston mallory
david is younger than margaret his sister he was also 2 years younger than matilda his wife children back then because of high mortality rates or the kids were staying with their mother. on the 1870 list uder zebedees you have sam and his younger sister margaret listed as sam 15 and margarett at 11. there are more kids by david and orlena isenberg i will see if i can round them up.
Matilda is not listed on either list so she is deceased or just plain run off I still havent found her.also margaret presly 78 was margaret peggy howe.david sr married mary howe margarets david and matilda were also 1st cousins.
David and orlena had a son thats buried at cedar grove cemetery hawkins county tn.
orvil thomas mallory
inscription says son of d.o.mallory(thats short
for david and orlena )
Birth: unknown
Death: Mar. 2, 1879

age 6 months 25 days

Cedar Grove Cemetery
Hawkins County
Tennessee, USA

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Created by: Reta Mellons
Record added: Nov 16, 2013
Find A Grave Memorial# 120415161
I hope this helps some but this entaglement
of the howes mallorys isenbergs presleys and molesbeys is enough to give you nightmares.
Added by franklin mallory on Sep 22, 2016 7:27 PM
franklin mallory
RE: sam houston mallory
I think I left you with the wrong impression the margaret listed with sam is his younger sister.Matilda was his wife sorry I didn't make that clearer.It is a mangled mess that created a rift in the mallorys of rogersville claiming there were 2 different bunches but they all came from the same bunch.
Robert Thomas Mallory and Anna are the first mallorys in hawkins county.their kids were.
john, william,henry, robert t,david sr, nancy ,anna ,mary.
Robert thomas mallory sr had a cousin John or johin that came down later in life he had no children.
all the mallorys of hawkins county came from robert and anna.
Added by franklin mallory on Sep 22, 2016 3:08 PM
franklin mallory
RE: sam houston mallory
yes matilda presley her father was zebedee presley
who was elvis presleys 4 or 5 g grand father.Dad told me that and he dispised elvis. He said if elvis had to work for a living he would starve called him a peacock.So yes she was matilda presley.
Added by franklin mallory on Sep 22, 2016 1:14 PM
franklin mallory
RE: sam houston mallory
david had remarried by then and left state the david in the 1870 senses is davids dad david sam and margaret were with henry davids brother by then i am still trying to sort out from david back to robert thomas mallory.I know david senior is buried at cedar grove church in hickory cove but its marked with feild stones.By my estimates david jr. was only 15 and matilda was 17 when Sam was born and I dont have any info on margaret his sister at all.David and matilda split up for some reason.Then david married orlena Isenberg and they left several children here in tn.and moved to arkansas.Wish i could be more help.But David I sent you is Sams Father even if he was raised by Henry.Sorry about the mess, Mallory family names are recycled so much you pretty muchhave to use dates to sort everything out.
Added by franklin mallory on Sep 22, 2016 12:03 PM
franklin mallory
sam houston mallory
I am his great grandson Lee Mallory first thank you for all the work you have done it really makes a difference for the relatives searching for their lost kin.
I have Sams Father,s listing if you would care to add it to his listing David Mallory was Sams Father and Matilda Presley was his mother I haven't found her yet.Thank you again for all your precious time and effort.

David Mallory
Birth: May 21, 1849
Death: Feb. 25, 1920

Family links:
Mary E Mallory Luttrell (1882 - 1929)*
Dillard L Mallory (1889 - 1977)*

*Calculated relationship

Mountain View Cemetery
Washington County
Arkansas, USA

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Created by: a2
Record added: Aug 28, 2007
Find A Grave Memorial# 21212946
Added by franklin mallory on Sep 21, 2016 4:18 PM
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