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G Heisler (#46603798)
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ron baublitz
RE: Clickner Ehrlich and Herman Otto Ehrlich
Georgia, i may have had it figured out 2 years ago but now is see the problems. i thought otto was herman otto but now see he is not. i put him back as otto with his family and removed clicker as his son because i believe herman is his father. also added a picture to louise which i had forgotten to do. sorry for the problem, ron
Added by ron baublitz on Mar 23, 2016 8:30 AM
Ace
RE: Edward Heisler Grave Photo
Hi! Using the obituaries I sent earlier, and the documents I located, I was able to determine the following burials and I now have photographs. If you add photo requests for them I will post the photos that I took.

1. This group is together.
a. Delores A. Hunt Mefford, d. 1957 (no marker)
b. Theodore G. Eckfeldt, 1920 - 1961
c. Mildred Spiech Dablemont, 1900 - 1961
d. Frank Dablemont, 1902 - 1951

2. Spiech monument previously photographed.
a. Henry Speich, 1874 - 1928
b. Anna Speich, 1878 - 1947

There are possibly others, but of course I don't know all of the family names, and I can only look up names by their date of death.

Ace
Added by Ace on Nov 15, 2015 2:26 AM
Ace
RE: Edward Heisler Grave Photo
Calling them about getting him a marker will not present a problem for me. They have no idea about the records I found, and as long as it stays that way I should be able to continue to help others.

The grave location I found should be in the photo caption, so be sure to ask if he was moved to somewhere else. It's unlikely, but possible. Hundreds, maybe thousands, of graves were moved when they built I-290 (Eisenhower Expressway) on the other side of the cemetery.

If I can be of further assistance, please let me know. If you find out who is buried in the Spieth lot I would be happy to add the Spieth monument photo to their memorials.

Ace
Added by Ace on Oct 27, 2015 6:10 PM
Ace
RE: Edward Heisler Grave Photo
Hi! I choose to conduct much of my work at three cemeteries that are hard to locate graves at because no one else seems to be willing to do the work and I can do the work. I have fulfilled over 250 photo requests at Forest Home in the last month now that I have access to their old record books (1873 - 1960).

It took more than two years to locate the old files for Forest Home/Waldheim German Cemetery, so at least most of the old graves can be located (without the cemetery staff's help). I am afraid that the cemetery is going to find the records I found and have them removed under the guise of 'privacy' so I am now trying to find a way to get the records copied.

Remember that when I take the train ride, etc., I am not just performing one search. Over three weekends I located over 400 of about 525 photo requests at Forest Home. Some of these were cremations so I told the photo requester about there not being a grave, and some were moved to other cemeteries. Some were never buried at Forest Home which was determined by looking up names in obituaries (free library access online at home) and on Ancestry.com. None of this would have been done if I had not put on my Sherlock Holmes hat and the families might never have known where their ancestor is really buried.

And isn't that what Find A Grave is really about - people helping each other?

The major problem with many individuals on Find A Grave is that when they submit a photo request they do not take the time to do their research first. It's too easy to click the "Request A Photo" button and expect the photographer to do all the work. Picking up the phone and calling the cemetery or sending an e-mail to obtain the burial plot seems to be a very difficult task for most photo requesters.

Even basic research seems to be daunting for some people. For instance when an Illinois burial states that the burial is in Forest Park they assume that Forest Home is the only cemetery in Forest Park. There are four major cemeteries in the city all along the same road and all within about two miles of each other. All of this has to be sifted through to get to the actual Forest Home burials. It is a challenge, and it can be difficult, but the reward of getting a photograph of a long lost burial is the reward for both the photo requester and myself.

Ace
Added by Ace on Oct 27, 2015 3:20 AM
Ace
Speich Monument at Forest Home Cemetery
Hi! I was at the cemetery yesterday, and I was able to verify that there are no names anywhere on or around the Speich monument. Both sides of the monument only have the family name engraved. Ace
Added by Ace on Oct 25, 2015 2:56 AM
Ace
RE: Edward Heisler Grave Photo
Hi!

1a. Spiech names: There does not appear to be any names on the monument in the photo, but I can recheck the next time I am there. There are many problems associated with this cemetery. The cemetery does not cooperate with photo volunteers, and even getting a map of an individual section can be a challenge. They sometimes also charge $5 to look up names.

1b. Edward's location. To figure out where Edward is buried involved a drive to the train station, a round trip train ride, and a couple mile walk to then go through microfilm that is in date order by date of death. I have no way to look up anyone on the microfilm other than by the date of death (unless I want to individually search all 20,000 images on the microfilm rolls that each contain at least 50 names). Even then this can be a challenge as Waldheim German Cemetery is on two rolls of microfilm and Forest Home Cemetery is on two more rolls. When looking up someone, you do not know which set of films to start with. It takes three hours to get there and back, it costs $20 per trip, and, despite what anyone might have ever told you, sitting in front of a microfilm machine for eight hours is really not that exciting. But so far, this is the only way to look up large numbers of burials at the cemetery.

2. Lot markers. Since I completed 100 photo requests last weekend, I do not remember if there is a lot marker in front of the Speich monument. Looking at the photo I posted, it appears that the lot marker divits are showing at the left of the photo and in the center of the photo, so a photo of at least one is possible the next time I go back to the cemetery. Very rarely do I take photos of these as this cemetery does not keep the lot markers cleared. Even if you do clear them, they often get covered back up in a matter of weeks. Only years of photographing at this cemetery has allowed me to be able to figure out the most likely places to find them and then (temporarily) uncover them. For a cemetery that is about a mile long and 3/4 of a mile wide it can make for a very challenging day of finding a grave - even with years of finding them already behind me.

3. Names. I easily looked these up online which may give you someplace to start if you call the cemetery for information about who is buried in the Spiech lot.

Cemetery Phone: 773-287-0772
E-mail: deborah.bluck@foresthomecemetery.net

3a. 1947-12-14, Chicago Tribune (IL)

SPEICH - Anna Speich, beloved wife of the late Henry, dear mother of Mildred Dablemont, Louise Eilers, Henry, and the late Gilbert Speich, grand-mother of seven, great-grandmother of three. Services at chapel, 4138 Madison st., Monday at 2 p.m. Interment Forest Home.

3b. 1961-12-11, Chicago Tribune (IL)

Dablemont - Mildred Dablemont, nee Speich, beloved wife of the late Frank; fond mother of the late George Eckfeldt and Dolores Mefford; dear grandmother of four; loving sister of Louise Eilers and Henry. Services Wednesday, 1:30 p.m., at Boland & Sons Funeral Home, 4138 W. Madison street. Interment Forest Home. Member of Bindery Women's union, local No. 30. KE 3-1024.

4. I hope this helps you out. Thank you for your patience as I hope you now understand what a difficult place this is to look up burial locations and then go and photograph for everyone who does not provide a section and lot number (which Find A Grave says should be provided by the photo requestor).

Ace
Added by Ace on Oct 22, 2015 3:00 AM
 

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