|J Martin (#47658574)|
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Due to health issues I have slowed down - so please be patient! I will eventually get to the requested updates and photo acknowledgements. Thanks|
~ BIRTH/DEATH/MARRIAGE RECORDS ~
For those frustrated by LACK OF EXACT INFORMATION bear in mind these were PIONEERS.
Mass immigration occurred 30 or more years PRIOR to U.S. Independence. Most U.S. births, deaths and marriages occurred AT HOME, and may or may not have been documented by Church Records or the Family Bible, but were not a requirement of the BRITISH EMPIRE.
The Declaration of Independence was a statement adopted by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, which announced that the thirteen American colonies, then at war with Great Britain, regarded themselves as independent states, and no longer a part of the British Empire.
Outside of the largest cities, there were no churches, schools, hospitals, stores, or CEMETERIES. Most pioneer graves occurred near where the individual died and were generally marked only by piles of stone or wooden crosses that disintegrate over time.
Early cemeteries did not bury families together – that is a modern day concept. Pioneer cemeteries originally buried people next to each other in the order of death, with separate locations for adults, children and ethnicity.
Foreigners who could not read or write in the native language where they live were functionally illiterate, but the backbone of this nation, building as they traveled.
Illiteracy was the norm, and only the wealthy were able to afford to send their progeny off to the city for several years to be educated.
During pioneer times quill and paper were not standard household items, blackboards and chalk were, which is why there are so few paper documents and the Bible used to document family history.
It isn't that we "FAILED" to find the documents; very few actually exist, and due to illiteracy and language barriers, their accuracy is highly questionable and information often conflicting.
I offer known, but unsubstantiated, optional dates in the files - not to confuse - but to reflect the diversity in record keeping of that era.
Be thankful we have the pre-independence records available, instead of critical of their inaccuracies.
~~~~~~~ FENSTERMACHER ~~~~~~~
After immigration a wide diversity occurred in the spelling of the name Fenstermacher.
Since immigrants usually couldn't speak, read or write English, their name changed as often as the person writing it - and was often phonetic.
Accents, and the fact that other languages do not have the same 26 letter A-Z alphabet that English does, also contributed to making translations tricky and documentation difficult.
As if that wasn't enough the spelling of names is complicated by relocation. As they moved, individuals in one county or state would be taught the spelling of their name differently than the same family members in another.
In addition, names eventually were Anglicised, making it difficult to determine which is the actual, correct, version, so for the most part I have used the spelling of the name the family has agreed upon or where possible the name on the headstone.
~~~~~~~~~ OBITUARIES ~~~~~~~~~
I have no problem adding obituaries and newspaper photos to this site, because I do contact the source and request permission - even after the fact, such as for those that were already in the files when I obtained them. Please be sure to site the source if you have it.
~~ SUGGESTIONS & CORRECTIONS ~~
All suggestions & corrections MUST be accompanied by file number, as there are multiply individuals with the same first and last name. If you wish to have files linked, provide the file number for each individual!
NOTE: I reserve the right to verify information prior to annotating any file. Please include source of information.
FYI: Original file links only. I WILL NOT link family members to duplicate or triplicate files.
I am reviewing every Fenstermaker record, or derivative of, and would be happy to accept management of any or all, if you are interested in transferring. It is not my intention to just "collect" them - I intend to spend at least a year or so "connecting" them. I do not expect everyone to just hand over their records. Feel free to transfer, or "politely" advise me you decline.
I am the 9th great granddaughter of Conradt Fenstermacher c1627 Hillscheidt, Rhenish Bavaria, Germany.
MY LINE OF DESCENT:
GGF-9: .. Unknown - Fenstermacher, Conradt
GGF-8: .. 1650-1678 Fenstermacher, Conrad
GGF-7: .. 1678-1761 Fenstermacher, John M
GGF-6: . c1715-1790 Fenstermacher, Philip
GGF-5: .. 1749-1831 Fenstermacher, Michael
GGF-4: .. 1777-1849 Fenstermaker, Philip
GGF-3: .. 1803-1881 Fenstermacher, Michael
GGF-2: .. 1836-1911 Fenstermaker, Aaron
GGF-1: .. 1878-1959 Fenstermaker, Daniel
GMthr: 1906–1978 Oakes, Rose Fenstermaker
Mother: 1930-pres Martin, Lillian Oakes
ME: ...... 1954-pres JMartin
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|Carolyn K. Shearer||Nettie Fenstermacher Fleming, #138138431|
While working on the Flemings in the Shippensburg area, I came across your submission to findagrave for Nettie Fenstermacher Fleming, daughter of Cyrus Fenstermacher and Rebecca Shillito. I believe that she is the same person as Helen Nanette Fleming #138140790, also listed in the Spring Hill Cemetery records.
1. In the 1880 census, she is Helen N,Fenstermacher
1880 federal census
Shippensburg, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, United States
Cyrus R Fenstermacher Self M 32, head, coach maker Pennsylvania, United States
Rebecca E Fenstermacher Wife F 34 Pennsylvania, United States
Hellen N Fenstermacher Daughter F 11 Pennsylvania, United States
Anna C Fenstermacher Daughter F 9 Pennsylvania, United States
Mary B Fenstermacher Daughter F 7 Pennsylvania, United States
William Fenstermacher Son M 5 Pennsylvania, United States
Alice H Fenstermacher Daughter F 3 Pennsylvania, United States
Edmund S Fenstermacher Son M 1 Pennsylvania, United States
"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWF9-M65 : 10 August 2016), Hellen N Fenstermacher in household of Cyrus R Fenstermacher, Shippensburg, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district ED 89, sheet 486D, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 1122; FHL microfilm 1,255,122.
2. In her marriage record to George A. Fleming, she is Nettie, but her age and parents are the same.
Name George A. Fleming
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 08 Oct 1891
Event Place Shippensburg, Cumberland, Pennsylvania, United States
Marital Status Widowed, His previous wife died 2 Nov 1889
Birth Year (Estimated) 1855
Father's Name George Fleming
Mother's Name Margaret I. Fleming
Spouse's Name Nettie Sharick
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Age 22
Spouse's Marital Status Widowed, Her husband died March 1888
Spouse's Race White
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1869
Spouse's Father's Name C.R. Fenstermacher
Spouse's Mother's Name Rebecca Fenstermacher
"Pennsylvania, County Marriages, 1885-1950", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFWZ-PVY : 24 June 2016), George A. Fleming and Nettie Sharick, 1891.
I only have a list of transcriptions of burials in the cemetery, no pictures of the stones, so it is difficult to determine the origin of the second entry. I have not found a death certificate for her.
|Susan ||Acacia Cemetery Photo Request|
Acacia Photo Request
corrected phone number:
Acacia Park Cemetery and Mausoleum at 773-625-7800
Added by Susan on Oct 12, 2016 9:59 AM
|Susan ||Dewitt Clinton Fenstermaker|
Dewitt Clinton Fenstermaker
Find A Grave Memorial# 95477613
If you call Acacia Park Cemetery and Mausoleum at 773-625-7838 and:
1. Ask if your photo request person has a headstone / grave marker.
2. If there is a headstone / grave marker ask for the section, block, lot and grave number.
3. If you send that information to me, Susan (#48964989) I will go there and fulfill your photo request. Of course any other Find A Grave volunteer can also fulfill your request if you then add the headstone location information to your photo request page.
Added by Susan on Oct 11, 2016 1:30 PM
|Eric||Photo Request Mem # 170772028 Ida Jean Fenstermacher Johnson|
I'm sorry to report no luck in getting a photo for you.
I DID find the stone for Joseph M Johnson, and there was a space next to him, but no marker of any kind for Ida.
I walked the entire cemetery as it isn't that large, thinking her marker may have been placed somewhere else, but didn't see one.
You may have luck in contacting the church office if you are family - the cemetery is well-maintained and there are recent interments, so I would assume they have good records.
Is it possible that she was laid to rest in another cemetery? Or perhaps the family has not purchased a stone for her - there are many reasons that happens, including everyone thinking that someone else will handle it.
Added by Eric on Oct 11, 2016 1:00 PM
|Karen Deitrick||Charley Fenstermacher|
Next to Charley's marker was Edna Mae 1913-1914, Valentine F 1872-1950, Martha Jane 1874-1960. There was also a Margaret L. and Frank all together. If you would like any of these pictures, just let me know.
|Brandi Kane-Williamson||Mary Ellen Greenlow|
could you email me firstname.lastname@example.org so we can talk about mary and her family please
|gloria (glo) wolf||Baby Miller|
Brick Church Cemetery is not the same as The Muncy Cemetery
|Tim Gruber||Sara Anna Fenstermacher # 73564955|
Her tombstone clearly has the name Sara Anna and not Sarah Anna. There was no reason to reject my suggested correction.
BTW you're welcome.
I have looked at your photo requests for cemeteries in the Lehigh Valley area, and I can get you newspaper obituaries for 20 of these memorials:
Caroline Bechtel #139125316
Robert Fenstermacher #140623459
Lewis Fenstermaker #129403363
A Franklin Fehr #129960177
Theodore Fenstermacher #134124988
Joseph Fenstermacher #170367112
Adele Stetler #134123692
Raymond stetler #13412274
William Mimlitsch #139072217
Arthur Fenstermaker # 126376618
Edna Fenstermaker #126376692
Mary Ackerman #139120549
Isabella Clader #140886264
Mrs William R Henninger #140643141
Emaline Jacobs #132967752
Annie Fenstermacher #68622279
Catharine Clewell #147071288
Clayton Fenstermacher #137803162
Emma Pearson #139964848
Elizabeth Fenstermacher #139358498
These all appear in the Morning Call newspaper of Allentown, PA; let me know if you are interested.
|Marilyn Suter||Warren Fenstermacher Jr|
Warren Fenstermacher Jr. Memorial# 104719442. I believe this child to be buried with his mother and sister Dolores, however the headstone says his name is Wilson unless there is another child? I will post the photo you can remove it if it is not the correct child.
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