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PLEASE, feel free to ask for a transfer(s) by using the EDIT button on the memorial page and click on "suggest any other correction or addition." I have many orphan memorials - meaning I am not related and they need a family to properly manage them.
I leave flowers when I visit a memorial while doing research & during the past few months, have been trying to remember to add my relationship in the floral note...
Have a question, a correction or need help finding info? Again, you can contact me using the EDIT button and click "suggest any other correction or addition" (quickest way and private) or leave a public message.
If I've made an error...let me know, politely. If I ask the source of info, don't be offended, I want to add the source to my database. (To err is human and I'm a little more human than most...)
Feel absolutely FREE to use the tombstone photos I have taken!!
Please ask before using personal/family photos that I own/have taken. I will most likely allow it and have yet to refuse a request. I only ask proper attribution is given, i.e. "posted by Cherie in OC on Find A Grave" and that it's not on a site where someone has to pay to see it. I ask for attribution in case someone would like more info.
Someone asked why I post that someone committed suicide. I know this subject is difficult. I lost two close family members to suicide. Many families refuse to talk about it. Talking about it BEFORE it gets to that stage is what's most important to try to help prevent it. This is also why I have no problem posting death certificates. Besides "family history" family medical history is very important. I have also been working with a gen society to post DCs.
Life is too short to be a stick in the mud. Be that little singing bird on the sunny end of the stick!
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|Judy Hughes||Waldron/Hughes memorials|
You are right the Hughes on the lot is my husband; I have done extensive genealogical work on his line and he does go back to the Chappel/Keller lines. I was just curious I am now taking pictures of cemeteries in my area and have gotten responses from people who were glad to see a photos of a gravestone. Just spreads a little bit of happiness in their heritage hunt. My regards,
|Robert Champlin||RE: Durfee Champlin Memorial|
Cherie: Email will be much easier.
You do realize that all my questions and comments are 100% friendly, right?
|Judy Hughes||Memorials #79544071 & 79544068|
I've been debating on whether I should ask you this question and have decided to do so. In Oct 2013 you left a virtual flowers on the above memorials located in Corinth Rural Cemetery in Corinth, Saratoga County, New York. I curious as to why you left them? I don't object to anyone leaving one, but since they are my dearly loved and missed parents, I would like to keep my on the top. I don't know how to change the order of the flowers. I also don't expect many more flowers to be displayed. I was just wondering why you left them, how do you know them or do you research the name? Thank you, in advance, for clearing up my mystery.
|Robert Champlin||RE: Durfee Champlin Memorial|
Cherie: Thank you for all of the addition info on Mary and Maurice, and the link to the discovery of bodies and caskets under the playground.
In comparing your information just sent and what I found on my own previously, there are a number of things that don't add up that I'd like to ask you about in the hopes that together we can come up with the right answers.
1) You wrote that Mary was born on Oct 20, 1885 and died on March 13, 1918. Is "1885" a typo? Her three daughters with Maurice Goettinger were born between 1889-1892.
2) Are you sure about Mary's death date? (I am NOT saying you are mistaken). I originally had "1919" from a family source but that's now probably incorrect. In looking for more info on Durfee and Mary over the weekend, prompted by our information exchange, I found his World War I Draft registration record. He registered for the draft in Philadelphia on September 12, 1918 and named his mother, who still lived in New York, as his nearest living relative. That suggests Mary was either dead or separated/divorced from him at the time. In the 1920 Census, Durfee was enumerated with two of Mary & Maurice's children and was termed "married" and not "widowed" or "divorced". In the 1930 Census, Durfee was called a widower.
3) In reference to Maurice, you used the term "WWI DRC". What is "DRC"?
4) Getting back to Mary's life span, both of our data sets seem to be a bit odd.
I'm not taking any sides here but this is why I am not sure about the dates:
- Durfee was born in 1881.
- I had family information that he married Mary in 1919. If that year was correct Durfee would have been 38 and Mary between 49 and 52 years old at the time - which, while a bit of an unusual age spread for a male and female getting married to each other, is believable. On the other hand, if Mary died in 1918 as you say then she did not marry Durfee in 1919. So, if the 1919 date I was given was a typo, perhaps 1909 was the correct year of their marriage? If he married Mary in 1909, he would have been about 18 and she anywhere from 39-42 years old. That makes even less sense, but still possible I suppose.
- My family information also said that Durfee adopted Mary's three children but that makes little sense, whether he and Mary married in 1909 or 1919. In 1909, the three children were aged 17-20 years old. In 1919 they would have been way past adoption age. They may have resided with Durfee before and after Mary's death and he probably supported them for a while but it's unlikely that he formally adopted any of them.
What do you think about all of this?
|Robert Champlin||RE: Also...|
Thanks for dragging me into the 20th century! I'm slowly catching up!
|Janet Muff||Emily A. Norton|
I'm not aware of having declined this edit. So perhaps it was in error. Thanks for checking with me. I'll accept it now and keep my fingers crossed that more inadvertent things haven't happened.
|Robert Champlin||Durfee Champlin Memorial|
Thank you for sending the added information about Durfee's wife (the first name of her first husband, and the date and place of her first marriage) - all of which was new info for me.
Was there something you wanted me to change or correct on Durfee's memorial or was this simply your generous contribution of added information (which I am very grateful to have received)?
Do you have some personal connection to Mary (Herr) (Goettinger) Champlin or to Durfee Champlin?
You mentioned that Mary may have died in Philadelphia. That's very possible. Durfee was living there at least from 1910-1920 and married Mary in 1919. He was enumerated as being "married" in the 1920 census. He was living in Philadelphia with two of Mary's adult children, but Mary was not enumerated with them. I have been unable to locate her in 1920.
Durfee removed to New Britain, Connecticut and worked for the Fafnir Bearing Company there from 1920-1942.
Durfee was enumerated in the 1930 census in New Britain and was called a widower.
Durfee died in Harpersfield, NY in 1973.
|Lois Rockwell||RE: :-)|
Thank You so Much.
|Angela Owens Jando||Sarah Dorsey|
The source of that information is a transcription done in 1999. That tells me that there is actually a gravestone for her. Often they disappear but not that recent. It is possible that the transcription could be off by 10 years since the marker itself is so old. I do not see where it shows she died at the age of 1 year and 7 months, though. You are correct that she could not be their daughter. I am guessing that the years are way off.
Please email me privately and hopefully we can get to the bottom of it.
So we are related then, albeit distantly,
so howdy and nice to meet you! :)
Well, Herman is a bit special to me. My dad bore an uncanny resemblance to him and I inherited his Danish blue eyes. I grew up hearing many many stories and tales about Herman and Catherine from my grandmother and her siblings. He was a one-armed sheep rancher and quite the adventurer. I put the first Hanson family tree on Ancestry.com in 2000 and other family members have branched out from there. I remember my great-aunt Vera and her stockpile of handwritten documents, many of which she brought back from Denmark. There are a few active researchers in our family so happy to have you on board!
Keep in touch! :)
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