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Fred Saar (#46511066)
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Mainly located in Ulster and Columbia Counties in New York.

Please do not request to add a birth date calculated from the gravestone, unless the complete age is known or listed (y/m/d). Dates that do not agree with stone and are not primary sourced will be placed in the bio section or declined.

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Upon request, personal use of photos will be given with proper credit or a findagrave link.

Sorry, I had to remove my email as to many incomplete requests were being sent instead of using a SAC.
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Zuladawn Hall
headstone pic
May I use this pic in my files? Thanks for your consideration.
Added by Zuladawn Hall on May 05, 2015 8:38 AM
RE: Marie Parks
Hi Fred,

You are very welcome for the photo. Iím glad that I could help.

I donít remember how I came to add Jamesí name to Fairview. I most likely did it when I looked to see where Marie was buried and noticed that James was buried next to her.

The documents I have for Fairview show that there are six Parks interred there. James H. and Marie W. on one side of the Parks monument (row 13) and Frances S. and G. Smith on the other (row 14.) The last two are Blanche G. (died 10 Mar. 1937) and Hyram Arthur (died 17 Aug 1955) both of which are located in the mausoleum. I have now added memorials for all with photos for the first four. Unfortunately, there is no record of a Merry Parks at Fairview.

Regards, Steve
Added by Steve on May 02, 2015 2:04 AM
Mary Mulford #33956893
Thank you for adding the bio to Mary Conkling Mulford"s grave. We appreciate all that you do.
Added by Sherman-Thomas on Apr 26, 2015 4:12 PM
Nikita Barlow
Mary Hobart (#8273024)
Greetings, Fred!

Thanks for Mrs. Hobart's gravestone inscription.
Re: the line "Aged 56 Years Month and 7 days", do you know if there was a number 1 between "Years Month", or is the transcription correct as is?
Best regards,

Added by Nikita Barlow on Apr 20, 2015 8:14 PM
Glen Swartz
Baker Street Cemetery
What DAR record where you using for the Baker Street Cemetery? I will add that to the sources for this cemetery if I can verify it. If the DAR record is only pertinent to one individual, please cite that in the individuals Biography.

This cemetery has under gone an amazing restoration, something I'm not directly involved with and is not connected here.
Added by Glen Swartz on Apr 20, 2015 1:20 AM
Glen Swartz
Baker Street Cemetery
Fred; What happened to Find A Grave Memorial# 30660326. Created by: Glen Swartz. Record added: Oct 18, 2008. Included were photos and bio.

Apparently it's been deleted and replaced by your Find A Grave Memorial# 117165068. Why? And why delete the Biographical info I documented?

Noticed a similar problem in this grave yard with another Memorial I had there (I created this graveyard/site)
Added by Glen Swartz on Apr 17, 2015 11:51 PM
Haviland Heidgerd Historical Collection
RE: Freer Cemetery
Yes, the problem is that both Freer cemeteries are now on Bruderhof land, one in Tillson that you have the correct photo for and the other is in Rifton. I know many people have looked for this other one and not found it. It was one of the earliest graveyards in the New Paltz Patent. The burials listed on pages 23 and 24 of Poucher are for the one in Rifton, but Mr. Ross has put them into the cemetery you found in Tillson. He has to delete them all from that cemetery.
Added by Haviland Heidgerd Histori... on Apr 14, 2015 3:05 PM
Haviland Heidgerd Historical Collection
RE: Freer Cemetery
The Freer Cemetery that I am talking about is in the Town of Esopus, not Rosendale. It was in Rifton where the Bruderhof is know. It was mentioned on pages 23 & 24 of Old Gravestones. Mr. Ross has put the Freers that were buried in the Freer ground in Esopus in the Freer Ground in Rosendale off of River Road.
Added by Haviland Heidgerd Histori... on Apr 14, 2015 1:24 PM
Freer Burial Ground Tillson
Fred, contributor:
left me a message:
Margaret Freer is not buried in the
Freer Burying Ground off of River Road in Tillson in the Town of Rosendale. She
and all of those listed on pages 23 and 24 of Old Gravestones are buried in the
Town of Esopus on the southside of Perrine's Bridge on land that was taken for
the NYS Thruway. We have searched for this cemetery many times and believe it
was plowed under at that time.
I'll have To kick This issue back over to you. I replied via e-mail to her: (References to the description and Map of the Freer Burial Ground Tillson)
This is a copy of the modified map of the Burial ground. I am not sure who did this. As you can see, it is nowhere near enough to describe as "Near the end of Perrine's Bridge". However, despite the difference of opinion as to where this cemetery is or once was located, I will stand by what Dr Poucher annotated when he visited the graveyard in about 1930.

I am also of the opinion that it is under the thruway. ( the description given in Paragraph one fits only the green shaded area on the map, representative of Perrine's Park.) Perrine had a Tavern just across the street (Main St-Rifton) at the south side of The wooden Bridge. There were at one time, a cluster of Buildings about the tavern. The graveyard was supposedly associated with this hamlet of Perrine's Bridge, which has now become the name of the bridge itself.

I noticed the photo added by Fred Sarr on 17 November 2014. Prehaps Fred Sarr added the paragraph two. Although I see at least 2 standing stones in the photo, he has not made any new entries for this burial ground. If he found the illusive "Freer Burial Ground-Perrine's Bridge", then the names on those 2 stones should match entries made by Dr Poucher. If the names don't match, then he has found yet another of many "Freer Burial Grounds"; especially considering that he states the old topo map labels the location he photographed as "Freer Burials".

Please keep me in the loop as to how this developes, or for any additional "discoveries".
Added by FRRoss on Apr 14, 2015 11:31 AM
Patricia Morrow
Amasa Hoyt #55235797 & wife Caty Row #55235798
The Red Hook Journal, Red Hook, NY, issue of Friday, April 25, 1873: "Amasa Hoyt and Catharine his wife, died within a few hours of each other at Woodstock, Ulster Co., last week. They were aged respectively 83 and 84 years."

You have two different days of death for them, March 23 and 29. I can't clearly read their gravestone, even when magnified, so I'm not sure if the date is the same for both or not. I'm also not sure if the newspaper posted something nearly a month old, or if their gravestone was erected at a later date and the family didn't recall if they had died in March or April.
Added by Patricia Morrow on Apr 07, 2015 11:36 PM
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