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Corine Hardman
Huggins Family
Hi.

I see you are related to the Huggins. My ties go through Helen Huggin as she married Harry Soccorsi my second cousin - his father and my grandfather were half brothers.

Corine
Added by Corine Hardman on Nov 23, 2014 3:01 PM
Cheryl Justice
Maurice Drufoose
Hi,

Sorry, we are not related. I came his info while I was looking for some one else. Take care.

Cheryl
Added by Cheryl Justice on Nov 21, 2014 6:16 PM
Joan Bartz
Garland Tom Tallman
Oops! Turns out that your memorial for him is a duplicate to memorial #59324190 created on Sept 28, 2010. Therefore your memorial should be deleted.

But the original memorial still needs a photo if you can find it.
Added by Joan Bartz on Nov 18, 2014 1:47 AM
Joan Bartz
Garland Tom Tallman
The photo you posted on his memorial #83176764 is incorrect and should be removed.

Perhaps you still have the correct photo?
Added by Joan Bartz on Nov 18, 2014 1:38 AM
Joan Bartz
William Fisher
You have posted the headstone photo for his son Ezra and wife on his memorial #59229710.

But you have posted the headstone photo for him and his wife Ellen on her memorial. Could you also post it here? And remove the son's headstone photo?

Thanks!
Added by Joan Bartz on Nov 16, 2014 5:32 PM
Wanda
Norma Mary Noe
#46419139 - Norma Mary Noe

Not her headstone in the photo.
Added by Wanda on Nov 03, 2014 6:54 AM
NancyM
Cemetery records for Warren County Asylum in Warren, PA
Earlier in the week I inquired of you about the records for the cemetery of the Warren County State Asylum in Warren, PA.

Below is the response I received and should prove useful for you if anyone else inquires about the records which you so painstakingly created on the Find A Grave site.

Most sincerely,
Nancy M.
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from: PH, State Archives
subject: RE: Warren County State Asylum at Warren, PA - Inquiry on records pre-1912

The Pennsylvania State Archives holds records from Warren State Hospital in Record Group 23 (see: http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/rg/rg23.htm).

To request research in these records, print the Mail Reference Order Form found on our website (see: http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/rg/rg23.htm), complete it, and submit it along with your payment for the $25.00 research fee.

Circle item #21 on the form as your area of interest, and provide as much information as possible about the patient. Please allow at least 4-6 weeks for completion and delivery of your order.

Pennsylvania State Archives
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www.pastatearchives.com
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Added by NancyM on Oct 18, 2014 5:38 PM
Barbara Long
RE: Carrie Limber
Thank you so much, Superscout.
Barbara Long
Added by Barbara Long on Sep 17, 2014 8:30 PM
Barbara Long
Carrie Limber
Hello Superscout,
Thank you for all the work you have done on Find A Grave. I am grateful for all that you and others have done to preserve the final resting places of my ancestors.
Would you please put in the birth and parent info for Carrie Limber Find A Grave Memorial# 94505169
I am not requesting a transfer but just to update her information. Here is what I have:
Carrie Limber
Parents Thomas Jefferson Limber (1835-1902) and Margaret Isabel Nelson (1837-1914)
Carrie born April 1866 in Sheakleyville, Mercer County, Pennsylvania
On the 1870 census, she is in Sheakleyville.
On the 1900 census, she is in Cherrytree, Venango County, Pennsylvania
On the 1900 census, she is 34 years old and cannot read or write. The rest of her family is able to do so.

Thank you so much for considering my request.
Best regards,
Barbara Long
Added by Barbara Long on Sep 11, 2014 11:49 PM
Saevitz Troshansky
Nathan Saevitz
Hello

It's possible that we've been in touch before through other sites so apologies for troubling you again if so.

Our Nathan Saevitz is not yours but as the name is uncommon, and as we understand that there are unknown relatives in the US (we are in the UK) I thought I would contact you in case you know of information that could help us fill in some gaps. We are more than happy to share what little information we have if you're interested.

Our Nathan, my husband's paternal grandfather, was born c 1877 was born in Romny (present-day Ukraine)according to the 1911 London census form which he completed himself in handwriting that is clearly that of an educated man. In the 1901 census a Nathan Savitch is listed at a different address in London (form completed by the enumerator); I do not know whether this is the same Nathan as in 1911. If it is, this means he returned to Ukraine to marry his wife Rebecca (Bessie, nee Troshansky(?)) c 1901/2. Bessie was born in Kremenchuk, Poltava Guberniya, where her first two children were born.

I have tried to find Nathan's birth without success but what I have found is still encouraging. I travelled to an LDS Family History Centre with a Russian interpreter, who was able to translate a small part of the relevant entries in the registers in the time we had available. The site http://surnameindex.info/docs/000081.html has also been useful. I hope one day to return or to visit the original archives in Ukraine, or that someone will be able to translate and publish the relevant information online.

Here are some Romny records that seem likely to be relatives of Nathan Saevitz. Regrettably some of the records
sent to me by surnameindex did not have dates. However, I believe they all relate to the
late 1800s/early 1900s and are all from the Romny area or nearby:

Birth 1880 April 17, Romny. Romny bourgeois Mavsha Aron Gersh Gilelev
Saevich, his wife Ester Haya. Daughter Rachel (Rakhil). [Could this be a sister of Nathan?]

Birth 1880 Male. Ritual and circumcision performed by Leiv Lifshitz with the
permission of Rabbi Ariy. Born April 23, circumcised April 30 in Romny.
Merchant's son from Konotop, Yeguda Saevich, his wife Ester. Son Yankel.

Birth 1884 July 8. Romny. Romny bourgeois Mavsha Aron Gersh Gilelev Saevich,
his wife Ester Haya. Daughter Leah. [Another sister of Nathan?]

Marriage [no date] Woman 22 years old, Man 23 years old. Engagement and
wedding rituals performed by the Rabbi and Gersh-Gilel Saevich. January 20.
48 silver rubles. Witnesses: Gersh-Gilel Saevich and Khaim Ber Dolgin.

Marriage [no date] Woman 19 years old, Man 28 years old. Rituals performed
by Zelman Shapira with the permission of the Rabbi, in Zasulye village.
August 2. 48 silver rubles. Witnesses: Zelman Mendeleev Shapira and Yekhiel
(?) Movshov Shukh. Romny bourgeois Meer Gersh Gilelev Saevich, single, and
the unmarried daughter of the Romny bourgeois Ariy Mordukh Moydeleev
Mordukhovich, Ester Haya.

Birth [no date] Male. Ritual performed by the Rabbi and Shmul Polyakov. Born
September 7, circumcised September 14, in Romny. Romny bourgeois Meer
Gilelev Saevich, his wife Ester Haya. Son Moses (Moisey).

Marriage[no date] Woman 20 years old, Man 27 years old. Performed by the
Rabbi and Zelik Bilyakov. July 4. 48 silver rubles. Witnesses: Meer Gilelev
Saevich and Simkh Leib Movshov Korbov.

Birth [no date] Male. Performed by the Rabbi and Nokhim Krupitsky. Born
March 10, circumcised 17, in Romny. Romny bourgeois Moisey-Aron Gilelev
Saevich, his wife Ester-Haya. Son Abram.

Marriage[no date] Woman 20 years old, Man 26 years old. The rabbi and Gersh
Gilel Saevich. October 20. 48 silver rubles. Witnesses: Gersh Gilel Avramov
Saevich and Aron Leibov Kanevskiy. (...)

Birth [no date] Female. Born June 18. In Romny. Romny bourgeois Moisey-Aron
Gersh Gilelev Saevich, his wife Ester Haya. Daughter Gitel.


Marriage [no date] Woman 18 years old, Man 24 years old. The Rabbi and Gersh
Gilel Saevich, in Bobrik village. May 30. 48 silver rubles. Witnesses:
Silika (?) Ariev Aronov and Gersh Gilel Avramov Saevich.

Death [no date] Romny bourgeois Itsko Gilevich Saevich died October 3 in
Romny from old age.

Marriage 1891 Woman 24 years old, Man 27 years old. Performed by the
Rabbi's assistant. January 6. In Talalayevka. 48 silver rubles. Witnesses:
Avram Movshov Ardashnikov and Mordukh Movshov Girshovskiy. Reserve soldier
of the 22 infantry regiment, Romny bourgeois Gersh Gilelev Saevich, single,
with the unmarried daughter of the Konotop bourgeois Gersh-Isaac Yermin
Levin, Haya-Diseya. [A nephew of Nathan?]

Marriage 1900 Man 30 years old, woman 22 years old. Performed by the Rabbi.
October 17. 48 silver rubles. Witnesses: Leizer Selektor and Gilel Saevich.
Romny bourgeois Alter Yuselev[?]-Gilelev Saevich, single, with the unmarried
daughter of the Romny bourgeois Avram Yevseev Goldfield, Leah.

I also have this record (from LDS): Birth 1878 Sarah, born 2 January 1878,
to retired soldier and Romny citizen, Hersch Gillels Abramov Saevich and his
wife Beyla Pas [?]


My suspicion is that Mavsha Aron Gersh/Hersch Gilelev Saevich and his wife Ester Haya were Nathan's parents, or perhaps Mavsha married again following the death of a first wife. It may be significant that Nathan named his eldest son (my father-in-law) Herschel (b c 1902 at Kremenchug) and he had a daughter Esther (b London, 1916).

I am assuming that the fact that Gersh-Gilel Saevich assisted the rabbi in wedding rituals relates to his being a Levite. (DNA tests and family knowledge confirm that Nathan Saevitz was an Ashkenazi Levite.) My suspicion is that Mavsha may have moved to Romny when the town developed rapidly after the opening of the Romny-Libava railway line (1874), which became one of the important trade arteries of western Russia. Pogroms in the area in 1881 may have led to a move to Kremenchuk or elsewhere, and further persecution in 1905 may have been the impetus for his move to London. There is a family in New York, the Terrs, to whom our Saevitz line is related, and they state that their family (assumed name Abramovitsch [significant given the patronymic of Mavsha?], subsequently Terr) came from "Neyshtot" or Negnevichi in Lithuania. I know of no connection with or indeed Poland or Lithuania, but of course the changing borders of Ukraine over many decades and the long journeys undertaken by so many Jews add to the confusion about family origins.

The Y-DNA results mentioned above, which are from our son Philip, are proving very interesting. Of a large and growing number of men who have been tested, only seven, including Philip, are matched to the Horowitz rabbinical family of 16th-century Prague. If there are any male Terrs who are directly descended from Jacob are interested in having DNA tests, this would confirm or refute my belief that Jacob was a blood relative via the Saevitz line. ftDNA Family Finder results for male or female descendants of Jacob Terr should also show matches to my husband's Family Finder results.

There are records (e.g. on Ancestry) of other Saevitzes, but I have not yet been able to establish whether these are related to ours. Some from Romny took refuge in Tashkent in Uzbekistan during WW2; I will try to investigate these.

Apologies for the length of this email, but I wanted to provide some background that I hope will be useful. We also have a Tribal Pages tree that shows a photo of our Nathan (whose grave, by the way, we have recently located in London).
Added by Saevitz Troshansky on Aug 04, 2014 6:39 AM
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