|Lorenzo Brieba (#47080176)|
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"How you die is more important than how you live"|
Before his death in 1952, Benedetto Croce, said, "I am often asked if I believe that the future belongs to freedom. My answer is that freedom has no need of the future-it already possesses eternity."
The rite of manhood for heroes is facing death bravely. In the end they will lose.. they will die.. because we are all mortal, but the true measure is how a person faces death, as Hemingway wrote, "Man is not made for defeat. A man can be destroyed but not defeated."
In 331 BCE Alexander the Great met King Darius III on the battlefield at Gaugamela, where again facing overwhelming numbers, he decisively defeated Darius who fled the field. Darius was later assassinated by his own general and cousin Bessus, an act which Alexander was said to deplore. Darius' body was treated with the greatest respect by Alexander who had avenged the death.
Upon his return to Susa, Alexander, found that many of the satraps he had entrusted with rule had abused their power and so executed them as well as those who had vandalized the tomb of Cyrus the Great at the old capital city of Pasargadae. He ordered the ancient capital and tomb to be restored.
After Alexander died, it is believed that Ptolemy stole his corpse as it was en route to Macedon and spirited it away to Egypt in hope of securing the prophecy that the land in which it was laid to rest would be prosperous and unconquerable.
When Raffaello Sanzio died at age 37 in 1520, all of Rome's artists accompanied his body to it's tomb at the Pantheon.
Michelangelo Buonarroti was the Pope's favorite and so was called frequently by Julius II, the papal patron of art. 4 months after completing the Sistine ceiling Julius died. Later on 3 popes died but the old artist lived on. Pope Pius IV even refused to accept his resignation and so Michelangelo continued on till his own death in 1564 at age 89.
On March 25, 1915, the USS F-4 submarine left Pearl Harbor but never returned. Bold attempts to rescue its trapped crew proved futile, and it took five months before an extraordinary salvage operation by the U.S. Navy brought the sunken boat to the surface.
The United States lost its first submarine during a tragic accident that delivered 21 men to a watery death less than two miles off Honolulu's Pearl Harbor.
Until now, those lost sailors have been remembered only in the minds of a few historians and their few living relatives. Of the 21 dead only four were identified. Seventeen remained unidentified and were interred in Washington, D.C.'s Arlington Cemetery, where their grave was marked hastily by a simple tombstone normally engraved for one person: "Unidentified remains of the F-4."
In 2000, the members of the U.S. Submarine Veterans Inc. began looking for the grave of the F-4 crew in Arlington Cemetery. One of its members read about the ill-fated boat in Sea Stories magazine and was inspired to find the site.
For weeks, as many as 10 veterans searched Arlington Cemetery for the grave, but only in vain. Old, poorly kept records, the enormity of the facility and the small size of the headstone made it a daunting task. Even with a definite section and grave number, it took months to locate the site, and only then with the help of Tom Sherlock, an Arlington historian.
Each section of Arlington Cemetery is odd-shaped and very large. Thousands of headstones of every shape and description make it almost impossible to locate one individual marker. The records from that era are not very well kept and there is so much activity with newer sites from the Vietnam era that the past gets buried along with the remains. Surely one can walk by the grave several times without noticing it.
The veterans were shocked and saddened by the size and condition of the stone. It was dirty, deteriorating and entirely too small for the 21 victims of the F-4, leaving the cemetery speechless. They have been lying there silently while visitors walked past without any recognition.
The fallen crew of the F-4 finally got acknowledgement when the U.S. Submarine Veterans Inc. of the Capitol Base and the Northern Virginia Submarine Base conducted a full military memorial ceremony at the gravesite in Arlington Cemetery.
A more fitting memorial listing the complete names and ranks of the crew that went down with it will replace the F-4 headstone, and a large display of the F-4 will be on permanent display at the National Navy Memorial in Washington, D.C.
Today the tombs of Alexander of Macedon and those of Genghis Khan and Marco Polo remain undiscovered, for those who seek undertaking such ventures..
"Inoiz Negoziatzeko - Deus Geratzen"
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|Ginny M||RE: Joseph Brooks|
Thanks! In the smaller photo I thought the cemetery looked huge...this is a good help.
Added by Ginny M on Sep 14, 2013 4:29 PM
|Ginny M||RE: Joseph Brooks|
Thanks! If it is small, we have a fighting chance!
Added by Ginny M on Sep 12, 2013 6:55 PM
|Ginny M||Joseph Brooks|
Do you happen to have a location for Joseph Brooks at Cedar Lawn...or maybe a description of how to find him...or a map? Planning on visiting next week -thanks!
Added by Ginny M on Sep 12, 2013 9:43 AM
|Robert Fowler||RE: Henri Huet|
You do a wonderful job on Henri Huet and I must say I only know of him through his photograph of Dickey Chapelle. I ran upon you looking at Mrs Chapelle and I gather that one of your interests must be war correspondents, photographers and journalists. Your personal story about visiting her gravesite is very interesting. I first ran upon her name in the autobiography of James Michener and she has always stuck in my mind because of that. It has been years since I read that but as I recall, he ran into her in WW II when she was helping people flee the Nazis from Poland. I then read up about that fascinating woman. Although she is deemed "famous" on findagrave, she is such a unsung hero, in my personal opinion. Her life story is one worthy of special attention.
|Robert Fowler||Henri Huet|
Extremely well done bio for Henri Huet. His famous photo of Dickey Chappele's last moments was extremely poignant. Who would have thought we would still be there (Vietnam) for almost a decade after that photo!
|Ben Doxey||Ed Koch's Monument Inscription|
Hello Ace: Usually is one clicks on the picture it will open to "full size", meaning a larger image. I tried this with your picture of Ed Koch's monument but it remains the same size and the inscription cannot be clearly read. Can you submit a detail of the same picture in order to read the entire inscription ? I'm sure the management will allow another such image. Thanks, in advance. Ben Doxey, Rhode Island
|Dr. Benway||Why Do You Fake Pics?|
I believe a lot of your contributions are faked or altered for your pleasure. Is this correct?
|Nmc1964||Yetta Levy - Mount Hebron Cemetery|
I am not sure if it was your organization that contacted Dyane to take the photo of my Great Grandmother's headstone OR if Dyane IS "Shoot That Shark Enterprises". In any case, I left one message for her and I could not let this go without leaving one for you as well. My heart was warmed BEYOND words when I received the notification that Dyane had shot the picture for me. To THINK that in THIS day and time that one perfect stranger would care to do something so kind for another stranger absolutely renews my belief in the kindness of humanity. I now want to volunteer my own time to help others. Thank you so very much.
Added by Nmc1964 on Feb 26, 2013 5:09 PM
|Nmc1964||Mt. Hebron Cemetery, Flushings NY|
I am trying to obtain my Great Grandmother's Hebrew name and my ONLY hope is to find it on her headstone. Her name is Yetta Levy. She died June 1, 1943.
Added by Nmc1964 on Feb 20, 2013 6:00 PM
You posted a couple of pictures for Joseph Brooks. I was just curious what cemetery he was buried in? I would like to get his burial info updated.
Added by K on Jan 26, 2013 7:00 PM
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