|K. Quentin Bremmer (#47654729)|
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When I started recording memorials on FindaGrave, my desire was to help provide original information on burials that was difficult to find elsewhere. I reasoned that an accurate account of headstone, cemetery records, and other information related to the burials would enhance people's genealogical research, helping to add new information or confirm that which they had already gleaned from other sources.|
However, a great number of people have decided it is a resource better suited to making a free family tree where they can replace what can be found at the gravesite with information from other sources (along with any mistakes that it may contain). If some family tree says they are buried in some cemetery, why bother checking? Just plop the memorial there. Found a death certificate that says where they were buried? That has to be the one, since none of us have seen any errors on a death certificate. Don't know the cemetery at all? Just plop them in one you think is close by or leave it as "burial unknown", maybe somebody will go through the trouble of contacting you after they put in the hard work to actually find the grave in another cemetery. Either way, you still get to claim ownership of the memorial because you "found" the grave first.
Because of these things, I probably won't be adding a great deal more memorials to FindaGrave. The effort to physically locate the graves and accurately record them just isn't worth it if the reality of the website being more like "Their-Grave-Might-Be-There.com" is good enough for the majority of members.
"Find a Grave's mission is to find, record and present final disposition information from around the world as a virtual cemetery experience". (That's their wording). I don't feel a memorial here should be a repository for transcriptions of census records, marriage certificates, or other source materials that are widely available elsewhere online unless it is the type of thing you might engrave on the tombstone, include in a eulogy, or put in the newspaper obituary of your loved ones. If you want to write the information into a nice biography or story of some type, that would be great to add, but please don't just send things like raw census data. I'll add obituaries for you, but I'm not very comfortable with those that were written less than 50 years ago unless any names of people still living are used only with their permission. Otherwise, putting dashed lines in place of their names or just using excerpts of the obituary without the names of those who may still be alive is what I prefer. As you may have noticed when you read the Find A Grave rules on obituaries, any obituary you wish to have added needs to include the name and date of the newspaper from which it came. I also suggest including the volume and issue number of the paper as well, just in case some of the people you are hoping will see it also want to include an original source citation in their geneological records.
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|DKOWN||Mays family Mount Olivet Cemetery|
Thank you for the wonderful photo's of the gravestones. So clear, thank you again.
Added by DKOWN on Jun 19, 2015 8:49 AM
Great to see you posting photos again. Have missed having you around to help with Palmyra photos! Thanks again for Drescher and McKee photos. The McKees are in my family tree, the Drescher family is in a friend's tree. Thanks again!
|Gensearcher||Sent with much appreciation!|
Thank you for transferring my ancestor's memorial. The care you've given this and other memorials as well as your photo contributions has helped to make this website a wonderful resource for numerous reasons. Thank you!
Thank you for processing the update for John Kroeger.
|Andy Morgan||Great Job.!!|
With over 10,000 memorials and almost as many photos - all I can say is THANKS..!!!!
Don't let anything others are doing incorrectly stop you from your efforts. These are most appreciated by everyone who actually matters.
Your dedication rocks..!
|Carol Buckwalter Small||Otto Elliott #88102915|
Hi Mr. Bremmer, In regards to the subject, Otto Elliott and his wife Bertha, the info on their pages regarding Joe Edwin Griggs is incorrect. Mr. Griggs is not their child. The person that originally posted this errant information has disabled the message option on their F/A/G page, so I don't know how to contact them to get this corrected. Mr.Griggs died on the same day, Sep 14, 2014, lived in the same town, as Donald Eugene Elliott. Their obits were published in the same newspaper and their services directed by Waters Funeral Home in Vandalia. The original "poster" of this incorrect information obviously got the details mixed up. That's why such information should be left to family members to handle. Thanks for your attention to this. I appreciate all the work you've done in documenting
Marion County information. Carol Buckwalter Small
|Carol Hopper Bader||Josie Sibley|
Thank you very much for sharing your picture of the headstone for Josephine Barnhill Sibley. We appreciate your time and talents. She was married to my great grand uncle.
Hi!My name is Susan and I had put a request on findagrave for Leeta Fern Elliott Walker Begley. She is buried at Grand View Burial Park.
They said they could not find the stone.
I am in contact with someone who said that would were knowledgable about the cemetery and that I should ask you if there is a stone for her. Her second marriage was to Charley Wayne Begley.I just thought I would reach out to you and see if you can help me?
Any help would be appreciated.
Added by SusanG on Jan 18, 2015 2:41 PM
|MRoyal||John Marshall Glascock|
Thank you for adding the parent information for my great great grandfather, John Marshall Glascock. I just want you to know that your contributions to Find A Grave are greatly appreciated. Thank you for all that you do.
Added by MRoyal on Jan 09, 2015 12:59 PM
|Tree Leaf||Thank you|
Quentin: thank you for all of your hard work at Find A Grave website. Many of us have benefited from it. You have always been very helpful, with photos, etc.
I have to say I agree with you about people not always being as diligent in their work as possible. I share your dislike of simply posting 'raw data' since that is not the purpose of the Biography section. I also agree that people should not post documents and certs here, for various reasons. That is what Ancestry.com is for. Also, sometimes the information on those certs is personal or delicate. The Biography section should be a freshly written biography.
I also agree with you about people not copying and pasting obituaries. For similar reasons to the ones you stated (the names and information of the living can be used for ID theft), and also, most do not provide copyright required information or follow the site's rules on that. They should provide the source, credit, and also should ask the newspaper first if they really want to be proper.
A lot of people also post the photo from the obituary and the page owner cannot remove that.
By the way I have seen your photos pop up on Ancestry.com lately. I do not know if you have given permission. I noticed the same ones doing that have also copied and pasted the biographies I've written, from this site to that one (without credit, of course.) I know they didn't ask me first.
I've tried to discuss these things with people on that site and others. They get extremely angry. Apparently, credit means nothing and other people's work is always presumed to be shared.
Yes of course we post things so that others can benefit but that's different than having our work lifted, and used in any old way.
People also should be open to correction, and at least look into it themselves. Many are not. Well, I just wanted to vent alongside you in case it helped you feel better. I did and do appreciate your diligence and sense of propriety. I hope in time you will return to the site.
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