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Fred Saar (#46511066)
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Mainly located in Ulster and Columbia Counties in New York.

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Sorry, I had to remove my email as to many incomplete requests were being sent instead of using a SAC.
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Nikita Barlow
Mary Hobart (#8273024)
Greetings, Fred!

Thanks for Mrs. Hobart's gravestone inscription.
Re: the line "Aged 56 Years Month and 7 days", do you know if there was a number 1 between "Years Month", or is the transcription correct as is?
Best regards,

Added by Nikita Barlow on Apr 20, 2015 8:14 PM
Glen Swartz
Baker Street Cemetery
What DAR record where you using for the Baker Street Cemetery? I will add that to the sources for this cemetery if I can verify it. If the DAR record is only pertinent to one individual, please cite that in the individuals Biography.

This cemetery has under gone an amazing restoration, something I'm not directly involved with and is not connected here.
Added by Glen Swartz on Apr 20, 2015 1:20 AM
Glen Swartz
Baker Street Cemetery
Fred; What happened to Find A Grave Memorial# 30660326. Created by: Glen Swartz. Record added: Oct 18, 2008. Included were photos and bio.

Apparently it's been deleted and replaced by your Find A Grave Memorial# 117165068. Why? And why delete the Biographical info I documented?

Noticed a similar problem in this grave yard with another Memorial I had there (I created this graveyard/site)
Added by Glen Swartz on Apr 17, 2015 11:51 PM
Haviland Heidgerd Historical Collection
RE: Freer Cemetery
Yes, the problem is that both Freer cemeteries are now on Bruderhof land, one in Tillson that you have the correct photo for and the other is in Rifton. I know many people have looked for this other one and not found it. It was one of the earliest graveyards in the New Paltz Patent. The burials listed on pages 23 and 24 of Poucher are for the one in Rifton, but Mr. Ross has put them into the cemetery you found in Tillson. He has to delete them all from that cemetery.
Added by Haviland Heidgerd Histori... on Apr 14, 2015 3:05 PM
Haviland Heidgerd Historical Collection
RE: Freer Cemetery
The Freer Cemetery that I am talking about is in the Town of Esopus, not Rosendale. It was in Rifton where the Bruderhof is know. It was mentioned on pages 23 & 24 of Old Gravestones. Mr. Ross has put the Freers that were buried in the Freer ground in Esopus in the Freer Ground in Rosendale off of River Road.
Added by Haviland Heidgerd Histori... on Apr 14, 2015 1:24 PM
Freer Burial Ground Tillson
Fred, contributor:
left me a message:
Margaret Freer is not buried in the
Freer Burying Ground off of River Road in Tillson in the Town of Rosendale. She
and all of those listed on pages 23 and 24 of Old Gravestones are buried in the
Town of Esopus on the southside of Perrine's Bridge on land that was taken for
the NYS Thruway. We have searched for this cemetery many times and believe it
was plowed under at that time.
I'll have To kick This issue back over to you. I replied via e-mail to her: (References to the description and Map of the Freer Burial Ground Tillson)
This is a copy of the modified map of the Burial ground. I am not sure who did this. As you can see, it is nowhere near enough to describe as "Near the end of Perrine's Bridge". However, despite the difference of opinion as to where this cemetery is or once was located, I will stand by what Dr Poucher annotated when he visited the graveyard in about 1930.

I am also of the opinion that it is under the thruway. ( the description given in Paragraph one fits only the green shaded area on the map, representative of Perrine's Park.) Perrine had a Tavern just across the street (Main St-Rifton) at the south side of The wooden Bridge. There were at one time, a cluster of Buildings about the tavern. The graveyard was supposedly associated with this hamlet of Perrine's Bridge, which has now become the name of the bridge itself.

I noticed the photo added by Fred Sarr on 17 November 2014. Prehaps Fred Sarr added the paragraph two. Although I see at least 2 standing stones in the photo, he has not made any new entries for this burial ground. If he found the illusive "Freer Burial Ground-Perrine's Bridge", then the names on those 2 stones should match entries made by Dr Poucher. If the names don't match, then he has found yet another of many "Freer Burial Grounds"; especially considering that he states the old topo map labels the location he photographed as "Freer Burials".

Please keep me in the loop as to how this developes, or for any additional "discoveries".
Added by FRRoss on Apr 14, 2015 11:31 AM
Patricia Morrow
Amasa Hoyt #55235797 & wife Caty Row #55235798
The Red Hook Journal, Red Hook, NY, issue of Friday, April 25, 1873: "Amasa Hoyt and Catharine his wife, died within a few hours of each other at Woodstock, Ulster Co., last week. They were aged respectively 83 and 84 years."

You have two different days of death for them, March 23 and 29. I can't clearly read their gravestone, even when magnified, so I'm not sure if the date is the same for both or not. I'm also not sure if the newspaper posted something nearly a month old, or if their gravestone was erected at a later date and the family didn't recall if they had died in March or April.
Added by Patricia Morrow on Apr 07, 2015 11:36 PM
Alec Ferretti
Coon's Cemetery
Dear Fred,

I am working with an anthropologist at Vassar College in Poughkeepsie, NY who is researching the watershed region around the Ashokan Reservoir. She has asked me to catalogue the burials in the area around the turn of the century (1875-1925 or so) and I have been going through findagrave to find the burials that are online, including Coons Cemetery, which you seem to have extensively digitalized. I am prepared to input the available online data into an excel spreadsheet which will then be input into a mapping program to track burial patterns throughout the decades. However this process would be significantly shortened if you were willing to send me the spreadsheets findagrave allows you to download as the contributor who posted them. I realize many genealogists are apprehensive about sending others their work, but I ask that you please consider sending me your spreadsheets, as they contain nothing more than what is already published and will save me hours of work. Thank you very much!

Alec Ferretti
Added by Alec Ferretti on Apr 06, 2015 9:10 PM
Terrie Roese
Jonah Parks
I live within the geographical area for requests for Kenosia Cemetery in Danbury, CT. I have carefully checked Connecticut, Hale Cemetery Inscriptions for Kenosia and cannot find Jonah Parks--or any Parks--listed.

The 1850 Census lists Jonah as living in Ridgefield, CT; 1860 lists him in North Salem; 1880 in Ridgefield. It is very possible that he never moved, because at one time North Salem was part of Ridgefied. (It later became part of NY as part of a trade for more coastline.) Ridgebury is actually part of Danbury, CT.

Kenosia is quite a distance from Ridgefield, so I am not sure they would have taken him that far, especially since there were no other Parks there. I would suggest that you go to the Town of Ridgefied website and request the Death Certificate for Jonah from the town clerk--there is a form on line that you can mail in. Death Certificates are filed in the town where the person died and most include the burial place.

I hope this has been helpful. I would enjoy hearing how it works out.

Terrie Roese #48420229
Added by Terrie Roese on Apr 06, 2015 2:50 PM
Thank you Fred for taking the time to walk the cemetery and record all of the Osborns in the cemetery. It has helped so much in working on my ancestors dates and families.
Added by Sheila on Apr 05, 2015 6:15 PM
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