|Kaye Hardendorf Dyer (#46972922)|
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|JustinB||RE: Memorial 29619341 Ann Hardendorph|
Kaye, was this resolved for you? Or do you have a little more information, I'm not sure when the next time I will be in the area of Thayer but I will make it a point to check for you. I see the stone in the back of the picture, but I'm not sure if I investigated it, it was in the middle of spring I think and that bush was a beast!
Added by JustinB on Nov 22, 2013 1:43 PM
|C.R. Reed||RE: Roger Earl Clements|
Yes, there are 6 Clements buried in the Goldthwaite Cemetery and 2 at Pleasant Grove cemetery that is in Mills County also. I don't know how many are listed on Find A Grave.
|Joel Shore||RE: Peter Hardendorf|
You are correct that there is no grave marker for Peter Hardendorf. The full details of the story can be found by clicking on the pictures that we posted and reading the long-winded captions.
The summary is this: Mt Hope is a very large municipal cemetery with something like 300,000 burials. Peter Hardendorf was buried in a public graves section, which I believe generally means that his family couldn't (or chose not to) pay for a cemetery plot and hence he was buried at city expense, usually with no marker. Furthermore, the area where he was buried was later re-purposed, so that the remains of those buried there were removed and transferred to a new location. (I like to think of this as "cemetery gentrification" where an area that originally housed the less-well-to-do becomes so desirable that those folks are forced, or moved, out to make way for the wealthier who want to purchase plots there.)
Actually, one fact that we have learned since I posted those pictures is that when this removal process was carried out, families of those in the public graves did have the option of having their loved one's remains moved to their own family plot if they had one. So, if there is a Hardendorf plot elsewhere in the cemetery, it is possible that Peter was moved there.
As for your question of whether there are other Hardendorf's in the cemetery: Unfortunately given the size of the cemetery, one just has to try to look and see in a somewhat painstaking process. There are two useful online resources. One, here http://mcnygenealogy.com/cem/mh-intro.htm , is a survey of legible tombstones, so you can search it for Hardendorf although I know of no shortcut to search all the sections other than going to the webpage of each section.
The second, here https://www.lib.rochester.edu/index.cfm?PAGE=3310 are the internment records for the cemetery. Again, it is a rather painstaking process to look through each date range for the page in the book that corresponds to the right part of the alphabet and look through the handwritten names; this has the advantage of finding even burials with no legible tombstone (although there are mistakes or incompletenesses in these records, so you will find people in the tombstone survey that can't be found in the internment records, as well as vice versa).
It is worth noting that Daryl Verstreate did produce Find-a_Grave memorials from the internment records for (almost) all of the entrees in the internment records up through 1892, so just searching on the name (and possible other spellings or misspellings) in Find-A-Grave should bring up almost any burials through 1892.
I hope this is helpful!
|Vickie||RE: Lena Jane Hardendorf|
I'm thinking it was the same one as the one in Justin B's photo but couldn't swear by it...too long ago since I added it--Vickie
Added by Vickie on Oct 02, 2013 3:00 PM
|Ron Miller||RE: Baby Hall|
You are very welcome. It was my pleasure to take the picture.
|Ashley Armstrong||RE: East Mecca Cemetery|
Hi Kaye! It's very good to hear from you again! There are 3 cemeteries in Mecca. The first, Cowdery or South Mecca Cemetery is located South of Mecca Circle off of Rt. 46 but has been long abandoned. The very earliest of Mecca burials were here. There is also West Mecca Cemetery located on Hoagland Blackstub AKA Bazetta Rd. North of Rt. 88. This is where most of my family is buried. There is also Hillside Cemetery in Cortland where quite a lot of Halls are buried and where the rest of my family is buried. Sadly, if Lois died in infancy, she most likely does not have a stone. It's quite likely she is buried in either West or East Mecca Cemeteries and was perhaps afforded a wooden cross at her grave which has since vanished. It's also possible that she may not have even been buried in a cemetery and could have been buried on the Hall property-there's many cases in Mecca where people find gravestones in their yards or woods-in fact there's one in the property adjoining mine for a G.O. Moore, died 1912, aged 15. I'm looking in my old book on Mecca Twp. and Aaron and Polly are in the 1850 census with children Levi 9, John 8, Ruth 6, Huldah 3, and Stephen, so yes, Lois must certainly had passed between 1846 and 1850. Aaron is counted in the 1840 census but his family is not counted in the 1860 census, so surely moved away by that time. I am actually very good friends with the present-day Hall family that live in Greene Twp. As far as genealogical resources, our local library does not keep any and everything has been moved to the Warren branch. I have not used the genealogical room there, but my cousin has and apparently there is a wealth of information and newspaper databases there. I'll do some sleuthing and see if I come across any photos or additional info for you. Take care and God bless!
|Kenna Allison||RE: 29615056 John Mardelo Hardendorf|
I would be glad to transfer them. Just send me this list.
|Larry Woodbury||Levi B Hatt|
posted a new picture of the head stone (no water)
also new information: From the National Park Service web site www.nps.gov.
Levi Hatt served in:
Company F 8th Regiment Minnesota Infantry
|Larry Woodbury||RE: Levi B. Hatt|
The water is spring melt.
Once the area dries I will take a closer look at the stone.
Started this session with 56 photo requests, have 15 more to do. Waiting for the road around section A to be opened all the way.
Kaye, I transferred Georgia's memorial to you. I would rather she be with a relative than a stranger! I took the photo last fall in the Thayer, Kansas cemetery and, yes, there are quite a few bushes in that cemetery. I recall several tombstones being almost covered by foliage. Of course, it was green back then, might be uncovered now! I will most likely not be traveling to Thayer within the next couple weeks as I just started a new job and am busier than I used to be, but if I can get down there on a fairly decent day I will make a note of this and see what I can find by Georgia's grave.--Vickie
Added by Vickie on Feb 20, 2013 5:50 PM
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