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Cecilia (#46619721)
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Bio Photo That's me in my Kindergarten picture in 1954.

I live in the high desert of San Bernardino County, CA and am married. I have two adult children, Annalisa and Keith and only one grandchild, my daughter's son, Mark Jr. I'd sure like more...hint, hint Keith...

I've always been interested in the past. I bought my first antique, a little china dog, when I was about 11.

In 1977, I started doing genealogical research. I acquired quite a bit of info before putting it aside and going to work. (My children were then in school) My research was relegated to trunk in the garage for about 27 years.

I had to stop work due to back problems in 2006. I started the research again to keep my mind agile and active. It's hard because I can only sit for 5-10 minute intervals before having to lay down. I do have the help (or is it hinderance?) of my keyboard-hopping, monitor-obscuring cat, Oreo.

During my research, I've found an illegitimate half-brother I never knew existed, (who was abandoned by his teenage mother) my grandmother's 3 million dollar inheritance that she and her second husband squandered, a conspiracy to defraud my grandfather's estate in exchange for ownership of a house, an elopement with the stable boy, the suicide of my uncle, who played trumpet in Phil Harris's band in Los Angeles in the 1930's, a kidnapping and my 4th great grandfather, who owned a tavern in Philadelphia in 1776, where it is said that part of the Declaration of Independence was written. The stories that are uncovered in genealogical research are truly amazing!

My goal is to complete an Obenland family tree tying all members in the United States together, plus their ancestors in Germany. At the same time, I'm building memorials here on Find A Grave.

Anyone out there having info on any Obenlands, (or families derived from Obenlands) please email me. And if you have pictures, all the better!!!!

I'm also looking for info on other lines in my family, such as Huston (from Maysville, KY), Bachmann (from Franklin County, IN), Lee (from New Jersey and Pennsylvania) and last, but not least, Malarkey. (also spelled Malarky, Mullarkey, etc) from Girardville, PA and Ireland.)

PICTURES: If you would like to use any pictures, etc. that I have added to Find A Grave, you MUST also include the caption. Please do not remove it! If the item doesn't have a caption, please do not copy it. I have spent many years and lots of money to acquire what I have put on this site. (Not to mention the effort it has taken.) Others have also contributed and I have credited them as I would like to be credited.

The rule is: Caption - Yes; No Caption - NO.

Thank you.
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BobH
RE: Christian Obenland
can't really say why the difference. Keep in mind that the online records are not the official cemetery records. I usually find they are pretty reliable, though.
Bob
Added by BobH on Sep 10, 2016 2:22 PM
B.J. Waters
RE: Gertrude Shaeffer
You've got some interesting family stories! Coincidentally, I have a half-brother named Donald that I also did not know existed. When my dad died in 1986, my mom had an obit placed in the newspaper in the east where my dad grew up. Out of the blue, a short while afterward, this half-brother called my mom while I was at her house, and I heard her side of the conversation. After she hung up she told me a little bit about him, but not much. It seems that she may have been lead to believe that Donald was not really my dad's son. But I know better, now, after researching it.

I tried to connect with him a few years ago, only to find out that he died in 2010.

I am deleting your previous message, to keep the info between only you and I. Thank you for sharing.

Best regards,

B.J.
Added by B.J. Waters on Aug 30, 2016 11:41 AM
Corey & Douglas Marshall-Steele
RE: John E and Betty Jean Malarkey
People have combined the two cemeteries for years. They are totally different (use the Google Earth function for an bird's eye view.) When I get a chance I will do a GPS for the correct ones in Milford Community Cemetery.
Added by Corey & Douglas Marshall-... on Aug 29, 2016 11:54 AM
Corey & Douglas Marshall-Steele
Malarkey Family
John E. Malarkey & his wife Betty Jean Malarkey are not buried in the Milford Odd Fellows Cemetery, but in the Milford Community Cemetery. Please correct burial locations.

I know this to be correct as I have personally walked and documented these two cemeteries, and have been sorting them for over 4 years.

Thanks. Corey
Added by Corey & Douglas Marshall-... on Aug 29, 2016 10:22 AM
Mike Spatter
RE: Ida May Temple Fitgerald
Greetings

This is what I found for Ida May Temple Fitzgerald:

Ida May TEMPLE was born on 9 December 1862 in Point Bluff, Columbia, WI. She appeared in the census in August 1870 in Indian Village, Tama, IA. She appeared in the census in June 1880 in Logan, Reynolds, MO. Ida Moved after 1880 in Pomeroy, Garfield, WA. She died on 27 January 1945 at the age of 82 in Pomeroy, Garfield, WA. In her marriage records (the civil ceremony in July 1880) she gave her initials but was called Tempie. Parents: Justin TEMPLE and Jane Ophelia WINCHELL.

Spouse: William Frank FITZGERALD. Ida May TEMPLE and William Frank FITZGERALD were married on 23 September 1880 in Reynolds Co., MO.
Added by Mike Spatter on Aug 26, 2016 6:17 PM
Patrizia
Albert Lamping
Hello again,

Another date discrepancy, this time with Albert. I went ahead and used your information as his birth/death dates since it doesn't affect the information which is on his headstone. There's also a note on his memorial regarding the conflicting dates. I'm going to guess that the priest didn't enter Albert's death/burial dates right away and backtracked later to enter them. This is the first time I ran across this issue at Holy Family.

If you run across any further conflicts, please let me know. I want the memorials to be as accurate as possible. Thanks again for your contributions.

Patrizia
Added by Patrizia on Aug 24, 2016 8:57 AM
Patrizia
George Kirschner
Cecilia,

Thanks for the additional information. I fixed the dates to match his death certificate and notated that the Holy Family Burial Record was probably incorrect. The June birthdate came from counting back from his age at death. Hope this helps you.

Patrizia
Added by Patrizia on Aug 23, 2016 10:08 AM
Patrizia
George Kirschner
Hi Cecilia,

I have added a note to George's memorial regarding the discrepancy regarding his birthdate. The information on his memorial is what was written in the records at the Church. As to which is correct, my suggestion is to see if you can corroborate the date with other sources.

I have the same problem with my grandfather's headstone here at Holy Family as well. The record says one thing and the stone says another. I understand that Find a Grave wants the information on the stone to take priority and any other information to be posted in the biography section. I hope you can discover the correct date. Thanks for your contribution.

Good luck with your searches.
Patrizia
Added by Patrizia on Aug 23, 2016 9:43 AM
Mike Spatter
RE: Ida May Temple Fitgerald
Greetings,

This is what I have found about Ida May Temple & William Frank Fitzgerald:

Ida May TEMPLE was born on 9 December 1862 in Point Bluff, Columbia, WI. She appeared in the census in August 1870 in Indian Village, Tama, IA. She appeared in the census in June 1880 in Logan, Reynolds, MO. Ida Moved after 1880 in Pomeroy, Garfield, WA. She died on 27 January 1945 at the age of 82 in Pomeroy, Garfield, WA. In her marriage records (the civil ceremony in July 1880) she gave her initials but was called Tempie. Parents: Justin TEMPLE and Jane Ophelia WINCHELL.

Spouse: William Frank FITZGERALD. Ida May TEMPLE and William Frank FITZGERALD were married on 23 September 1880 in Reynolds Co., MO.

William Frank FITZGERALD was born on 7 April 1855 in Memphis, Shelby, TN. He died on 27 March 1942 at the age of 86 in Pomeroy, Garfield, WA.23396 Parents: Alford FITZGERALD and Temperance BRADSHAW.

This is why I think these people are those in your listing.

Mike
Added by Mike Spatter on Aug 09, 2016 3:40 PM
B.J. Waters
RE: Gertrude Shaeffer
Well, even though you credited the cousin (which I included in my copy-n-paste) I am still grateful to you for your editing it from her original work. Doesn't it sound better, look better, than just pasting in dates and places from the census? People do it all the time using FamilySearch and Ancestry and even though it is quite acceptable to do it that way, it is just a bit lazy. Rather, you can tell that most of the time, the info isn't presented as part of a person's family history. But, when told they way you present it, it is pleasant to the eye and easier to read. It is more of a tribute to the deceased, rather than just "data".

Thank you again and please feel free to send any information for any of the memorials I maintain. I hope that in time you will become less confused and can sort out your family tree without too many roadblocks.

Best regards,

B.J.
Added by B.J. Waters on Aug 09, 2016 1:14 PM
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